Celtics 2024-2025 Discussion

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I’m happy the Cs won a championship in the Pierce era and a championship in the Tatum era. Maybe they’ll win more, but even if it’s one, I won’t be disappointed. As @RobertWeathers points out, it’s very difficult to keep a team together, and the salary cap is a serious deterrent to dynasties. Sure, I’d love to have Golden State’s last decade, but they were incredibly lucky not only to draft a top 10 all-time player (and team first guy who changed the NBA) but landed KD in an incredibly weird CBA season.

But a lot of all-time great players are probably going to win one championship and just be happy with it. Jokic is an all time great. Giannis is pretty damn good. One championship each. The Raptors couldn’t even keep Kawhi to defend his championship. LeBron’s four championships are spread to three different teams. Teams aren’t exactly feasting on multi-year domination. And plenty of teams, like the Jimmy Butler Heat, James Harden / Chris Paul teams have won a hell of a lot of games only to come up ringless. That Heatles team was 3 players in their absolute prime ready to dominate for the next decade and won a grand total of 2 championships together, which was very close to being only 1.

 

[aluminum seats]

I’m happy the Cs won a championship in the Pierce era and a championship in the Tatum era. Maybe they’ll win more, but even if it’s one, I won’t be disappointed. As @RobertWeathers points out, it’s very difficult to keep a team together, and the salary cap is a serious deterrent to dynasties. Sure, I’d love to have Golden State’s last decade, but they were incredibly lucky not only to draft a top 10 all-time player (and team first guy who changed the NBA) but landed KD in an incredibly weird CBA season.

But a lot of all-time great players are probably going to win one championship and just be happy with it. Jokic is an all time great. Giannis is pretty damn good. One championship each. The Raptors couldn’t even keep Kawhi to defend his championship. LeBron’s four championships are spread to three different teams. Teams aren’t exactly feasting on multi-year domination. And plenty of teams, like the Jimmy Butler Heat, James Harden / Chris Paul teams have won a hell of a lot of games only to come up ringless. That Heatles team was 3 players in their absolute prime ready to dominate for the next decade and won a grand total of 2 championships together, which was very close to being only 1.

Yeah, mostly agree. I think it stings when it feels like there's a missed opportunity, like the Pierce era Lakers series

OT, but damn have they stretched this finals out too long. It's lost every ounce of momentum

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yeah, mostly agree. I think it stings when it feels like there's a missed opportunity, like the Pierce era Lakers series

Sure but once KG went down in 09 and Perk 2010 game 6 their chances diminished.

Once LeFlop joined the MIA superteam they were overmatched in 2011 and 2012

OT, but damn have they stretched this finals out too long. It's lost every ounce of momentum

Agree- Used to be done in ~8 days max.

 

[jimnance]

Sure but once KG went down in 09 and Perk game 6 their chances diminished.

Once LeFlop joined the MIA superteam they were overmatched in 2011 and 2012

Agree- Used to be done in ~8 days max.

I'd bet my left nut this will end up one of the lowest tv ratings for tge NBA Finals in a long time.
I have no problem with no back to backs- every other day is fine).
But now Game 2 is 3 f'n days after Game 1!! That makes no sense.
My guess is they were trying to increase interest by stringing it out. I think it's backfiring.
I know I'm losing interest. Momentum means something in sports, whether youre playing or watching.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'd bet my left nut this will end up one of the lowest tv ratings for tge NBA Finals in a long time.
I have no problem with no back to backs- every other day is fine).
But now Game 2 is 3 f'n days after Game 1!! That makes no sense.
My guess is they were trying to increase interest by stringing it out. I think it's backfiring.
I know I'm losing interest. Momentum means something in sports, whether youre playing or watching.

My memory sucks. There have been some long series.

1984 Celtics/Lakers was May 27- June 12....7 games...17 days! Holy crap.
85 Cs/LA was 13 days
86 Cs/HOU was 13 days
98 Bulls Jazz was 6 games and June 3-14. 11 days
02 LA/Nets was 7 days ...sweep
2010 Cs/LA 7 games was 14 days
2016. Cavs/GSW ..7 games June 2-19..17 days

2025....5 games June 5-16. G6 Tonight which makes 15 days. G7 6/22 which would be 18 days.

 

[aluminum seats]

My memory sucks. There have been some long series.

1984 Celtics/Lakers was May 27- June 12....7 games...17 days! Holy crap.
85 Cs/LA was 13 days
86 Cs/HOU was 13 days
98 Bulls Jazz was 6 games and June 3-14. 11 days
02 LA/Nets was 7 days ...sweep
2010 Cs/LA 7 games was 14 days
2016. Cavs/GSW ..7 games June 2-19..17 days

2025....5 games June 5-16. G6 Tonight which makes 15 days. G7 6/22 which would be 18 days.

Two weeks would be fine, so it should be game seven tonight. That would make a big difference

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Indy up 22 at halftime

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Game 7. Always exciting.

The NBA has rock bottom Finals viewership despite a very intriguing series, clashing styles, plenty of marketable players, even the league MVP. I don’t think small market means much. Plenty of people watched the Spurs, Cavs, Nuggets etc.

Adam Silver should be fired. He’s terrible. The All Star Game was a total, absolute embarrassment to American culture. The entire clown show image of the NBA is brought forth by the clownish way these guys represent the NBA. Dumb pundits, silly announcers. It’s like a circus. You should have seen the way these ******s picked the all star teams. So clueless. That event was just so terrible it brings new meaning to the term.

Go watch some NBA games on Youtube from the 80s and 90s. These analysts and pundits took their jobs seriously. It wasn’t just a bunch of moronic, lazy hot take guys like Shaq, Perkins, Barkley, etc. That’s the biggest difference between the NBA and other leagues. The faces of the league aren’t serious at all. They’re a bunch of lazy ass clowns who think they’re entitled to everything. It really seeps through to the viewer.

Series is way too long, yes. Yet another terrible league decision. The In season tournament, with its structure and welcomed randomness, is one of the dumbest organized events in sports history.

Basketball is a great sport. This should be a ratings smash. I hope the NBA makes some needed changes.

 

[bresna]

Suns trade Kevin Durant to Houston Rockets for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, draft picks

Kevin Durant is on the move after the Suns failed to build a contender around him and Devin Booker.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

This is now three star players (Haliburton, Tatum, Durant) in recent memory who blew out their achilles on a non contact play in the finals or late in the playoffs. This sucks.

If we continue to get the bad version of Mathurin, this game is over. He is just killing them. Their only hope is that he switches back to Dr Jeckyll.

 

[aluminum seats]

That game/series would’ve been an all-timer I think. Sucks

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

Well that was a bummer


As much as I don't like Indy I had to give respect for the Pacers run, and especially Haliburton - definitely one of the best runs a player has ever had, in my opinion. For it to end like that in Game 7 really sucks, no way around it. As a sports fan I was pumped for it to be one of the best Game 7s ever, and then bam. I shut it off after that, congrats to OKC, great year - but it just feels off. Sucks

 

[ViperGTS]

Well that was a bummer


As much as I don't like Indy I had to give respect for the Pacers run, and especially Haliburton - definitely one of the best runs a player has ever had, in my opinion. For it to end like that in Game 7 really sucks, no way around it. As a sports fan I was pumped for it to be one of the best Game 7s ever, and then bam. I shut it off after that, congrats to OKC, great year - but it just feels off. Sucks

Of course it feels off. The league can't help salivating over the Canadian FT merchant getting a title that literally nobody cares about. It's a shame but the truth. NY, Boston, LA are the consistent cities where people care about the titles. Thats why it feels off.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

Of course it feels off. The league can't help salivating over the Canadian FT merchant getting a title that literally nobody cares about. It's a shame but the truth. NY, Boston, LA are the consistent cities where people care about the titles. Thats why it feels off.

I guess you could say that but I think if Indy pulled it off, or if they had an epic Game 7 with OKC winning, it would feel fine.

In my opinion, it feels off because Haliburton got hurt, not because of SGA, Canada or East coast teams

 

[aluminum seats]

I guess you could say that but I think if Indy pulled it off, or if they had an epic Game 7 with OKC winning, it would feel fine.

In my opinion, it feels off because Haliburton got hurt, not because of SGA, Canada or East coast teams

Agreed. I stayed with it because you never know. Indiana was winning at halftime and anything can happen in 24 minutes. Too bad

Also, what the hell is up with these guys in their prime rupturing their achilles?

 

[aluminum seats]

The east gets even weaker by the way. Durant stays out west and now Haliburton is out for the year. If I’m the Knicks I do anything it takes to get Giannis

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Agreed. I stayed with it because you never know. Indiana was winning at halftime and anything can happen in 24 minutes. Too bad

Also, what the hell is up with these guys in their prime rupturing their achilles?

Seems it keeps happening in the postseason. This year alone, Lillard, Tatum, Haliburton. I don’t know if it’s a coincidence or a usage issue. Haliburton and Lillard played through risks that they almost definitely wouldn’t have in the regular season.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Of course it feels off. The league can't help salivating over the Canadian FT merchant getting a title that literally nobody cares about. It's a shame but the truth. NY, Boston, LA are the consistent cities where people care about the titles. Thats why it feels off.

I don’t recall a team in any sport being as disliked as the Thunder, given none of their players have really done anything to deserve the hate. Maybe it’s angst about them being a dynastic team. But almost every NBA player, and team, even championship winning ones, tend to have a fairly long stage where they’re the fresh, cool kid before people get sick of them.

The Thunder seem to have skipped that stage altogether and are just not likeable for whatever reason. People don’t seem to really “respect their greatness” either. They’re perceived as an annoyance to everyone outside OKC and Doris Burke and co. You just don’t care enough to hate them but you don’t like them either.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Sources: Celtics trading Holiday to Trail Blazers

The Celtics are trading Jrue Holiday to the Trail Blazers for Anfernee Simons and two second-round draft picks, sources told ESPN on Monday night.

www.espn.com

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]