Can Patriots go undefeated and return to Super Bowl?

[pao]

Hopefully there is an assortment of collectable LT figurines. Some other family favorite LT moments include:
The "were getting our a** kicked right now" Game 2 blank glassy eyed stare LT
The darth vader, poor team player LT
New talking LT figurines; which include classics such as:
The I would never disrespect a team by doing a dance in the middle of their field, bc I prefer to do that through the media media darling LT
The "if the Pats arent cheating, they arent trying" denial LT complete with girly laugh.

But BB would take him on the Patriots in a heartbeat wouldn't he?

pao

 

[RayClay]

What do you mean? They already did it...

*Lures bandwagon fans on the boat to Nicaragua*

 

[patpatriot]

If Rivers and LT are healthy, I think the Bolts have a better chance of going 19-0 than the Pats.

 

[lightningbolt]

If Rivers and LT are healthy, I think the Bolts have a better chance of going 19-0 than the Pats.

I agree, but the Patriots will be a tough game on our schedule. We own the Colts so that doesn't worry me as much. Other than that, as long as they don't pull a choke job they can go 19-0. But, I don't know if the Chargers can handle all the pressure along the way; their biggest problem right now is their lack of experience and immaturity. If the veteran Patriots players couldn't do it then that doesn't hold out much hope for the Chargers. Who knows though, anything can happen.

 

[brdmaverick]

one thing that has yet to be brought up in this thread is the dreaded 'injury' factor.

You have to admit, even with the injuries to Seymour and Colvin, the Patriots I think would consider themselves VERY fortunate in the injury department. That makes it that much harder to swallow the fact that they could not win the Super Bowl nor go undefeated. Let's face it, last year was there true shot, everything was set up for them nicely.

In the AFC Championship game we played against a hobbled QB and a team that was missing their best player and one of the best players in the league.

We then were facing a number five seed team in the Super Bowl.

Sorry, I know it sounds like gloom and doom, but really, we missed our shot.

The 2003 and 2004 teams were able to win even despite enormous amounts of injuries (remember Troy Brown playing DB).

 

[bolts_fan]

haha. ok pal. no ones ever guaranteed a win or a loss. and what makes you think it gonna be against San Diego?? You have a great team, but considering weve owned you as of late, I think your line of thinking is a little off.

I would like to say that in the last 3 games, the Patriots have "owned" San Diego just once, even if all 3 games was a Win for NE. And that ownage was during week 2. The other 2 games was a lot more competitive. In fact, in last year's playoff, one could say SD beat themselves. And in this year's AFCCG, half of the team's offense came to town in wheelchairs, but the Bolts still score more times than the Patriots. Unfortunately all of those times were field goals.

But back to the point. Can the Patriots go undefeated again this year and return to the Super Bowl? Honestly, yes. Of course yes. But it's highly unlikely that both would happen (undefeated & return to the SB). To put it into perspective, if I had to handicap it, I would say it's at least 10x more likely that the Patriots would return to the Super Bowl than go undefeated & return.

 

[bolts_fan]

I agree, but the Patriots will be a tough game on our schedule. We own the Colts so that doesn't worry me as much. Other than that, as long as they don't pull a choke job they can go 19-0. But, I don't know if the Chargers can handle all the pressure along the way; their biggest problem right now is their lack of experience and immaturity. If the veteran Patriots players couldn't do it then that doesn't hold out much hope for the Chargers. Who knows though, anything can happen.

I would agree wholeheartedly. I'm a die-hard Bolts fan, but I'm also realistic based on what I've seen from the talented, but young, team so far. If they had to face the pressure of going 19-0 they would crumble. Exhibit #1: After all of the bulletin board materials other teams have given the Patriots (see Steeler's Smith) our own Igor Ohlshansky gives them a sound bite before the AFCCG.

Like you said, anything can happen and the Bolts are very talented right now. But also very immature and lacking in experience, although every year both of those diminishes. Well, at least the lacking in experience will go away... for some immaturity never leaves. They have the talent to pull a 19-0, but I don't think they have the composure. Not yet.

 

[Sivy]

I would like to say that in the last 3 games, the Patriots have "owned" San Diego just once, even if all 3 games was a Win for NE. And that ownage was during week 2. The other 2 games was a lot more competitive. In fact, in last year's playoff, one could say SD beat themselves. And in this year's AFCCG, half of the team's offense came to town in wheelchairs, but the Bolts still score more times than the Patriots. Unfortunately all of those times were field goals.

But back to the point. Can the Patriots go undefeated again this year and return to the Super Bowl? Honestly, yes. Of course yes. But it's highly unlikely that both would happen (undefeated & return to the SB). To put it into perspective, if I had to handicap it, I would say it's at least 10x more likely that the Patriots would return to the Super Bowl than go undefeated & return.

well either way you go, the chargers are the most over rated team in the nfl today.

 

[jp03]

I agree, but the Patriots will be a tough game on our schedule. We own the Colts so that doesn't worry me as much. Other than that, as long as they don't pull a choke job they can go 19-0. But, I don't know if the Chargers can handle all the pressure along the way; their biggest problem right now is their lack of experience and immaturity. If the veteran Patriots players couldn't do it then that doesn't hold out much hope for the Chargers. Who knows though, anything can happen.

You what you guys dont own????????????? A ring!

 

[pao]

Other than that, as long as they don't pull a choke job they can go 19-0.

It would most definitely NOT be a choke if the Chargers or any other team fails to go 19-0. I don't care HOW good the team is, there are just too many variables beyond the control of the team.

pao

 

[pao]

one thing that has yet to be brought up in this thread is the dreaded 'injury' factor.

You have to admit, even with the injuries to Seymour and Colvin, the Patriots I think would consider themselves VERY fortunate in the injury department. That makes it that much harder to swallow the fact that they could not win the Super Bowl nor go undefeated. Let's face it, last year was there true shot, everything was set up for them nicely.

In the AFC Championship game we played against a hobbled QB and a team that was missing their best player and one of the best players in the league.

We then were facing a number five seed team in the Super Bowl.

Sorry, I know it sounds like gloom and doom, but really, we missed our shot.

The 2003 and 2004 teams were able to win even despite enormous amounts of injuries (remember Troy Brown playing DB).

My point exactly. It is too much to EXPECT a team to go undefeated. If it happens there's a big wallop of luck involved.

pao

 

[pao]

well either way you go, the chargers are the most over rated team in the nfl today.

Overated by who? Virtually no one picked them over Indy, virtually everyone predicted they would be blown out by NE. How do you figure they are overated?

pao

 

[pao]

You what you guys dont own????????????? A ring!

Wrong, they have an AFL Championship ring. But it was stolen from our trophy case along with our trophy. Who did the Chargers beat to win that AFL Championship anyway? Hmm,can't remember.

pao

 

[Sivy]

Overated by who? Virtually no one picked them over Indy, virtually everyone predicted they would be blown out by NE. How do you figure they are overated?

pao

the didnt score one touchdown in that game (the afc championship game). I picked them over indy, I usualy pick most anyone over peyton in the playoffs every single year.

Rivers is a 12 year old in a nfl qb's body, and with him as their leader, they will never make it to the superbowl.

 

[Sivy]

If Rivers and LT are healthy, I think the Bolts have a better chance of going 19-0 than the Pats.

is that a joke?

 

[patpatriot]

Wrong, they have an AFL Championship ring. But it was stolen from our trophy case along with our trophy. Who did the Chargers beat to win that AFL Championship anyway? Hmm,can't remember.

pao

All right...now you're a dead man. I saw that game and i will forever remember the name Keith Lincoln!

 

[patpatriot]

is that a joke?

Not at all. They showed plenty in the AFC Champ game and they play in a "weak" division. Everything is set up for them if they avoid injuries. I would argue that their 22 is more talented than the Pats 22.

Oh yeah, and they have progressed a step in the Playoffs each of the last 2 years and for some weird reason they "own" the Colts (see the Pats vs the Broncs).

 

[lightningbolt]

Not at all. They showed plenty in the AFC Champ game and they play in a "weak" division. Everything is set up for them if they avoid injuries. I would argue that their 22 is more talented than the Pats 22.

Oh yeah, and they have progressed a step in the Playoffs each of the last 2 years and for some weird reason they "own" the Colts (see the Pats vs the Broncs).

Next season, I hope the Chargers and the Colts get the #1, and #2 seeds respectively and have the Patriots have to play the Colts in the divisional round where hopefully the Colts will win so that we can beat the Colts in the AFC championship game in SD. That's the best playoff situation for the Chargers since the Patriots are much harder to beat(especially in the playoffs) than the Colts. I don't care if we go 19-0 as long as we win the super bowl next year.

I think trying to go 19-0 puts too much pressure on a team going into the most important stretch of the season, which is in my opinion what happened to the Patriots; they wore down as the season progressed until their offense was averaging way less points than they were in the first 10 games of the season. A large part of that has to do with the effort in trying to go 19-0 and the buildup of the pressure. I'm not going to fool myself into thinking that the Chargers can handle the pressure any better than the Patriots can. Our team, although talented, is inexperienced and immature at the moment so they can't pull off 19-0 but they can pull of a superbowl victory after going 12+ wins.

 

[#12]

No, you aren't. You took his quote out of context.
Didn't say it was wrong or not, just that you were wrong in what he meant by what he said. You obviously thought that he was predicting the Chargers would win the 9 out of the next 10 against the Patriots. He meant if the two teams that played in that playoff game played 10 times the Chargers would have won 9 of them. Right or wrong that is what he said. You misunderstood, obviously.
I'm not sugarcoating anything. I'm just correcting you. Call it what you will but at least get it right.

Ok, I'll admit I was wrong in what he said.
Here is the exact quote I could find, "I think that if we played with last year's teams ten times, we would win nine of them."
I still think he is wrong in what he said, and Ill still make fun of him but he did mean those two specific teams which I did not know beforehand. SO thank you for correcting me.

You can predict it, you can hope for it, you can give reasons why you think it will happen, you can pray for it, you can hope for it, you can do whatever you want. But if you expect it that's just unrealistic and you will be disappointed....again.

I dont think anyone here is saying undefeated or bust (now i havent gone through every post but the general consensus seems to be this). I think some of us would love to see our team do it again and this time finish the job. It is a hope, but not an expectation. Something I'd like to see, but would be ok if it didnt happen. How is that bordering arrogance or arrogant for that matter?

Why are you so bitter?

pao

Bitter? Whose post are you reading? I just found that picture and thought it was hilarious, thats all.

 

[#12]

But BB would take him on the Patriots in a heartbeat wouldn't he?

pao

That's not my quote...i find it funny tho.
Listen, LT is a hell of a player. I love his talent, but i dont care for him (obviously).