Yes, that was his best role. However, he played in 16 games last year, not four.
But he was used pretty much the same way in the other 12.
Yes, that was his best role. However, he played in 16 games last year, not four.
But he was used pretty much the same way in the other 12.
No, thats not what he said, he said he looked at his best stretch and found that is how he played. The implication you see doesnt exist.Reiss said that in his best stretch he was used almost exclusively in that role, implying that he was not used exclusively in that role at other times.
Pretty much. Yet Reiss singled out those four games.
Semantics, semantics.
What is your point?
Reiss singled out those 4 games because his production was better and there was a belief that he would improve as he 'learned the system'.
Many don't like calling Burgess a linebacker. Perhaps it is better to have a position called
OLB/DE/passrusher. It would seem that Burgess and Cunningham fit that role, and perhaps Ninkovich.
DE 3
NT 2
DT 1
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OLB/DE 2
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ILB 3
OLB 3
ST/dvlpmental 1
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THIS SEASON COMPARED TO LAST - MY TAKE
A) Spikes and McKenzie replace Alexander and Seau, taking the open ILB and ST positions
B) Cunningham takes the roster spot of Thomas
C) Burgess, Woods and Ninkovich are back.
D) Mayo is healthy.
E) The inside should be much improved, especially with the addition of a vet DT.
F) Crable could beat out Burgess or Ninkovich or be a 16th front 7 player, or not.
G) We could keep a 7th defensive lineman, or not.
H) By Game One, we likely won't have 16 front seven players that we want to keep; an injury or two will take care of that (as is normal).
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Would you like me to be your straw man? OK.
*Burgess should be a full time OLB![/Strawman]*
He's obviously better at what he has done his whole career.
Has he been used otherwise to the detriment of his effectiveness? I guess to say he's been almost exclusively at something the last four games implies that.
first of all, you're about as close to the target here as in every other post --- I'm very lazy.
secondly, I have tabulated and broken down snaps already in a burgess thread, as well as some thread about wilhite, or whatever it was, so I think I've taken my turn, and as I couldn't give a crap about this particular subject or the endless bickering you seem to live for, I'll have to leave it to you.
spend the time on bringing info to the thread that you'd normally spend spamming it with irrelevant bickering, would be my suggestion.
I still dont understand what your point is, and the post here makes no sense to me.
To call it a Strawman means I am trying to argue that he is not a full time OLB, and that isn't even the argument you are making. Obvioulsy we have reached the point where no one would even try to make that argument to begin with. More importantly, my retort was responding to your claim that comments about where he lined up in 4 games implies he must have done something else in the other 12, which is simple off the mark.
I have no point. I never said Burgess was the answer at OLB, yet that's what everyone is assuming in argument. Burgess is much better at what he has done his whole career, I agree.
I don't think we are abandoning the 3-4 so we can accommodate Burgess, yet he has gotten a very high percentage of snaps somehow.
I don't know how, but they haven't all been against the Colts.
I try not to say the word "never" myself, because then I'd get into more of these endless, pointless arguments.
Somehow is that we play nickel or dime on over half the snaps.
I think thats the disconnect you have. You appear to think that this is like 1978 when your base D played everything except 3rd and long.
We play nickel/dime sometimes on 1st down more often than not on second and often on 3rd. Add in snaps when we are well ahead or in the final 2-3 minutes of a half, and the guy who comes in to replace the 'starter' when we are in nickel/dime gets more snaps than the guy who only plays in the base and comes out in nickel and dime./
You appear to think that this is like 1978
That isnt the point.Fine. He played a lot more than half the snaps sometime.
I basically don't disagree that he's more comfortable and better at DE, is used more there and is not in line to be a permanent answer at OLB.
In fact, he's unlikely to be a permanent answer at anything. I proposed that saying he never did or never will be used at OLB was a bit of a stretch and i still doubt that is the case.
You needn't go back that far to find when we had versatile linebackers. Try 2003-4
That isnt the point.
You said you didnb't understand how he played half the snaps.
Fine. He played a lot more than half the snaps sometime.
I basically don't disagree that he's more comfortable and better at DE, is used more there and is not in line to be a permanent answer at OLB.
In fact, he's unlikely to be a permanent answer at anything. I proposed that saying he never did or never will be used at OLB was a bit of a stretch and i still doubt that is the case.
You needn't go back that far to find when we had versatile linebackers. Try 2003-4
No I didn't.
You said half, check how many snaps he actually played in games.
If Pierre Woods is our only true 3-4 linebacker with TBC, then we hardly play 3-4 at all.
Again, he IS an OLB in the 34, he is just a very bad one.
That settles that. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Let's see how Cunningham adapts in his first camp.
Are you still trying to say we line up in a base 34 and Burgess is playing OLB, despite the fact that it just didnt happen?
Whatever you want to argue against is fine with me, just leave me out of it.