Bruce Irvin cut by Raiders

[SHOWTIME15]

News Flash: The Pats D does not suck.

It doesn’t suck but could use some help, particularly getting a speedy LB that can spy these running QBs.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

The Pats front-6 is getting better each week with cooperatively getting QB pressure while maintaining the edge. I don't think that introducing a new guy for the next seven games is really necessary, and I doubt that Irvin would make a sufficiently significant difference. He might even disrupt the (now, finally) established communication, coordination and flow.

Against stationary QBs, yes, but against more mobile QBs like Mahomes and Trubisky the D struggled a bit. More pass rushers always helps. Irvin ran a 4.5 40, while Hightower a 4.68. Bringing him in for a narrow role such as rushing the QB late in the 3rd and 4th quarters when the Pats have the lead and need a big play would help I think.

 

[maineman209]

Against stationary QBs, yes, but against more mobile QBs like Mahomes and Trubisky the D struggled a bit more. More pass rushers always helps. Irvin ran a 4.5 40, while Hightower a 4.68.

Athletic pass rushers aren't the fix for defending against mobile QBs. Better awareness and assignment discipline are. I'm not sure that Irvin helps that at all since he may be more Cass Marsh than HT.

 

[long distance]

Athletic pass rushers aren't the fix for defending against mobile QBs. Better awareness and assignment discipline are. I'm not sure that Irvin helps that at all since he may be more Cass Marsh than HT.

I must've missed the “bring Marsh back“ thread after flashy highlight plays in SF..

 

[TheRainMaker]

This "he's banged up a lot" thing has ZERO foundation. He missed 2 games last year to minor dings. But other than that, he's shown up when needed. Like the SB against Atlanta.

Yeah, I thought I had deleted that portion after I looked up he only missed two games.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Athletic pass rushers aren't the fix for defending against mobile QBs. Better awareness and assignment discipline are. I'm not sure that Irvin helps that at all since he may be more Cass Marsh than HT.

Irvin is a proven NFL player.

Marsh is part-timer who has an aversion to playing run defense.

 

[maineman209]

Irvin is a proven NFL player.

Marsh is part-timer who has an aversion to playing run defense.

Irvin may be more "proven", but is he proven in the things that the Pats D actually need more of? He has a reputation for freelancing.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Irvin may be more "proven", but is he proven in the things that the Pats D actually need more of? He has a reputation for freelancing.

Maybe. I'll let BB decide.

RE: freelancing. He does move around but I think he has played in defenses which allow him that latitude.

 

[maineman209]

Maybe. I'll let BB decide.

RE: freelancing. He does move around but I think he has played in defenses which allow him that latitude.

Agree that it's much more about the Pats' coaches' perspective on how he fits than it is about his previous accomplishments elsewhere. And one aspect of that is, how much has that "latitude" enabled his success? He may not be afforded much latitude in the Pats defense at all.

 

[long distance]

News Flash: The Pats D does not suck.

Must've missed it..

 

[RobertWeathers]

Must've missed it..

I guess you have.

 

[Deus Irae]

He cleared waivers, per WEEI


Update: Doug Kyed reports that he's been place on waivers today and won't clear until 4 pm tomorrow. So, either Kyed or WEEI got the info a bit confused.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[jah]

Wasn't sure he'd get there, but it's now time for me to say...

Sign the average player.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

He cleared waivers, per WEEI


Update: Doug Kyed reports that he's been place on waivers today and won't clear until 4 pm tomorrow. So, either Kyed or WEEI got the info a bit confused.

As per A. Schefter tweeted Irvine and 3.8M left on Raiders wasn't claimed making him a FA today.

 

[Uptown]

 

[SHOWTIME15]

d%#*!@t

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Good signing for them they can make a playoff push I told you he would run to a familiar face figured it to be Seattle or Atlanta.

 

[Fatmancryin]

Translation: I don’t want to win and work hard. I just want to continue to be mediocre.

 

[jah]

Translation: I don’t want to win and work hard. I just want to continue to be mediocre.

The Falcons aren't that bad. Maybe he's just one of those people who hates the cold. Kind of stupid if you're a football player but still.

No great loss.