NFL News Breaking: McDermott fired

[Tunescribe]

To me it’s not just including a player in the process, it’s including exactly ONE player. Yes, we all know that a star QB is a precious commodity. But it’s still a team game, and a public pronouncement like this that Allen is separate from the rest of the rabble on the roster seems like a bad locker room move.

I’m curious, if a team asked serious HC candidates to sit down with the team captains as a group to get a players’ perspective on their leadership and vision, what would you all think?

Unheard of and just as bad if not worse than only giving the star QB a say. First and foremost, team captains aren't the same every year and the head coach determines the process by which they're chosen. (Remember that Vrabel, for instance, cut/traded last year's team captains under Mayo. Captains/top players in one coach's system can be expendable jags in another.)

The head coach is a deciding factor in all players' livelihoods -- how they play and practice, who gets a contract extension, benched, traded, IR'd, suspended, etc., etc. He's the ultimate authority and can't be beholden to any player or small group of players. Also, players can't possibly know how a coach's system/philosophy might work to their benefit or detriment until they experience it under him and assistant coaches.

 

[patchick]

Unheard of and just as bad if not worse than only giving the star QB a say. First and foremost, team captains aren't the same every year and the head coach determines the process by which they're chosen. (Remember that Vrabel, for instance, cut/traded last year's team captains under Mayo. Captains/top players in one coach's system can be expendable jags in another.)

The head coach is a deciding factor in all players' livelihoods -- how they play and practice, who gets a contract extension, benched, traded, IR'd, suspended, etc., etc. He's the ultimate authority and can't be beholden to any player or small group of players. Also, players can't possibly know how a coach's system/philosophy might work to their benefit or detriment until they experience it under him and assistant coaches.

I hear you, and I agree with the basic issue but I think a group of team leaders would be marginally better than a QB diva system. The flip side of a coach being beholden to the players is the players feeling invested in the coach’s success and rallying the locker room behind him.

Watching late-stage Aaron Rodgers has convinced me that a QB who holds himself above and apart from his teammates is a death knell.

 

[Tunescribe]

I hear you, and I agree with the basic issue but I think a group of team leaders would be marginally better than a QB diva system. The flip side of a coach being beholden to the players is the players feeling invested in the coach’s success and rallying the locker room behind him.

Watching late-stage Aaron Rodgers has convinced me that a QB who holds himself above and apart from his teammates is a death knell.

Yes, you're right about Rodgers and of course you want players backing their coach. But you can't have a head coach beholden to players for landing his job. The notion of any player(s) having input on head coach selection is inherently dysfunctional for the simple reason that their professional fate rests in his hands.

 

[reflexblue]

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=286759

Report: Bills have reached consensus on Bill Belichick​

And it appears to be No

MSN

 

[Clonamery]

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=286759

Report: Bills have reached consensus on Bill Belichick​

And it appears to be No

MSN

Bill Belichick again addresses UNC future amid NFL interest

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www.on3.com

Bill Belichick says he has ‘not and will not’ pursue open NFL jobs, committed to UNC

Bill's consensus was "No" on the NFL months ago.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Rivers will have the same problem Mayo had
No NFL coaching experience and a very limited coaching tree

I'd actually love to see Rivers as an NFL HC - but seeing as the Bills should want someone with playoff and ideally SB coaching success, he's not their guy.

But yes - he needs to come in as a QB coach at the very least. Look at Vrabel's pedigree. He learned how to coach by watching BB yes - but did his time at Ohio State and with the Texans as an assistant.

Heck even Mayo was an assistant for 4 seasons

I'll be shocked if the Bills don't take a step back next season. I have no idea who they can get with credibility and a proven track record.

Heck - let Josh Allen be Player Coach - that'd probably turn out better than whatever they're contemplating now. Mike McCarthy would have been their best bet but they lost him to the Steelers.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

I'd actually love to see Rivers as an NFL HC - but seeing as the Bills should want someone with playoff and ideally SB coaching success, he's not their guy.

But yes - he needs to come in as a QB coach at the very least. Look at Vrabel's pedigree. He learned how to coach by watching BB yes - but did his time at Ohio State and with the Texans as an assistant.

Heck even Mayo was an assistant for 4 seasons

I'll be shocked if the Bills don't take a step back next season. I have no idea who they can get with credibility and a proven track record.

Heck - let Josh Allen be Player Coach - that'd probably turn out better than whatever they're contemplating now. Mike McCarthy would have been their best bet but they lost him to the Steelers.

I think Rivers is having a HC interview but with the Bills intention to hire him as a QB coach like the Pats did with Thomas Brown

 

[Hammer of Thor]

I think Rivers is having a HC interview but with the Bills intention to hire him as a QB coach like the Pats did with Thomas Brown

Certainly possible. Reportedly he’s taken himself out of consideration for the HC position, but there’s no report about anything else.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Certainly possible. Reportedly he’s taken himself out of consideration for the HC position, but there’s no report about anything else.

I don't know if he will be offered the QB coach job. I just don’t think he had any shot at the HC position. Might have been picking his brain or if he wowed them a coaching position

 

[captain stone]

Looks like Josh er I mean the Bills have found his er I mean their man...

Hope this doesn't end-up the same way when Tragic Johnson got Paul Westhead fired...

 

[p8ryts]

Looks like Josh er I mean the Bills have found his er I mean their man...

Hope this doesn't end-up the same way when Tragic Johnson got Paul Westhead fired...

Too bad MacDermott couldn't figure out how to cure Josh's fumbling.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I don't know if he will be offered the QB coach job. I just don’t think he had any shot at the HC position. Might have been picking his brain or if he wowed them a coaching position

He said it's not a good fit for his family, so I doubt it.