Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Biffins, Mar 21, 2020.
That’s just this thread.
To me, BB simply did what he's always done... Let the Player say how much he wants first and start from there. He would allow Brady to test FA, but would keep the doors open for him to match any offer.
now this is a more speculative part, but I think Brady wanted to be treated differently. No doubt we would be able to pay 25M for him. The guaranteed 2 years was a big thing too, but at that point, i cant really blame the business man to see the business side of having a lot of cap attached to a 44-45 year old with decreasing stats.
I thought i would be way more crushed than I was, but in the end, i think this was good for both parts. I couldn't see a way for the Pats to keep being competitive without cap space and Brady was being a bit of a Diva already on the team, at least compared to his old self.
Not sorry that it ended, happy that it happened
I've said it way before this happened and this just confirms it - BB was pushing Brady out the door. BB finally wants credit for all our Superbowls to himself and doesn't want to share it anymore.
People were trying to paint Brady as 'too greedy' and 'all about the money' to soften the blow of losing him, but clearly that wasn't the case.
BB was his usual ******* self when it came to negotiating Brady's contract, and so Tom finally couldn't put up with it any more so he was forced to leave New England. No weapons, no assurances, no respect, and BB wouldn't even offer a 2nd guaranteed year? It's a bad look for Belichick.
Once the fanbase calms down at how much it stings to lose Brady, they will realize that he was the best thing this franchise has ever had, and the arrogance of our head coach caused us to close a window that we might have been able to stretch open for another 2 years. This same arrogance was on display when he forced Malcolm Butler to sit out the entire Eagles Superbowl despite our secondary getting torched on every other play.
Look BB is a genius, no denying that, but he's also a very prideful man. And there was no reason Brady had to go except for BB wanted him out the door.
I don't believe the statement that Belichick deprived Brady of weapons on offense. Seems to me BB did everything possible within the limits of the salary cap to provide weapons. He spend a 1st round pick on a WR, signed Thomas, signed Brown the moment he became available. Doesn't seem to me that he wasn't trying. Yes he traded Thomas after signing Brown, but who knew Brown would blow up the next day.
Unfortunately, the Pat's ran into a string of bad luck on offense starting with Harry, LaCosse, Wynn, Andrews, Develin, Edelman, Sanu, et al injuries (too many to name all). Brown blows up, Gordon backslides. Sanu injured two games after joining the team. Did BB take some risks? Yes, but that's what you do when you have a SB caliber team and a salary cap. BB tried. People need to knock off this "lack of weapons" line. Did TB have a "lack of weapons" last year? Maybe, but it wasn't because they didn't exist. If Tampa Bay experiences a similar string of injuries next year, TB will again be playing with a lack of weapons. Who will he cry to then.
Not gonna get into the entire offense but with regards to TE, BB failed last off-season. Should’ve set a hard deadline for Gronks decision and got in on Jared Cook before the saints did.
The Patriots have always done right by Brady and have always treated him fairly, but he simply wanted a change of scenery and an opportunity to prove that he can make it on his own. Can't blame either party here.
We should all be glad that we've still got the GOAT on the team, though.
Fair enough- I’m not sure I’d call that trashing myself but I can see why it sounded like it.
I don’t think any true Pats fan would look back at the Brady era with anything less than a once in a lifetime run of great memories and joy as a sports fan. Without Brady it most likely doesn’t happen. We can question things that Brady has done or his attitude at times- personally I loathed hearing about “17 points lolz. That’s it??” but nobody should be trashing the GOAT.
This makes no sense. You think the Pats need to tank So they can pick at a higher slot? If you think the Pats can’t pick offensive players well, why would you want them to fail at a higher slot and pay more money for a guy? You do understand that higher picks fail as well, right?
Do you think Brady also didn’t want credit? Do you not think that he cares about showing what he can do? Brady wanted to prove that he still has it in his mid-40s. Brady was looking at for himself. There is nothing wrong with that.
Is this a joke?
Yeah, he really looked like trash in 2018...
The reason they are worth $500m is cuz it is about the money.
Both parties were ready to move on.. and those who are besmirching Brady's good name are pretty disgusting.. the guy poured his blood, sweat and tears into this organization for 20 years bringing us unprecedented levels of success in the form of SB Championships and records.
Kraft should have a statue of Brady erected somewhere in the stadium
There'll be Brady and Belichick statues outside Gillette. Don't you worry about that.
I don’t doubt the pats probably would have done this but why would Tom come back?
name a skill position player outside of a healthy Edelman that many teams would jump at having.
You can’t. No weapons, not much cap space, a coach who’s been riding your ass for 20 years, and an owner that didnt have your back when you really needed him. I’d have bailed too
It's a Lennon/McCartney argument. Separately, they are pretty good. Together, it's special.
It's not possible for a single post to be more inane, asinine, and just generally devoid of thought than this one. You may have missed this, but that same awful Brady of 2018 won the SB that year.
...always liked Lennon more than Mac.
Yes they do fail, but given the choice of being middle of the back or awful, I'd choose awful. I truly don't feel the Patriots are making the playoffs next year. I come to this opinion because of their 2020 opponents and the current level of talent on the Patriots . I think 6-10 is a legitimate expectation, and I would rather be top 5 in the draft than middle of the pack. I'd rather be 3-13 vs. 6-10.
It could have a very positive meaning ie bb really likes what he sees in stidham to the extent that he feels Brady was expendable. Winning is the absolute first on bb’s agenda so i dont buy the theory that he wants to win without brady, he is doing what he believes is the best move for the team right or wrong we will see.
I felt what most here feel, I really felt like with Brady at his current level we’d have had a legit 2 year window at title runs here given they are able to add a #2 wr and a te and him at 25 m per for 2 seasons, and that this would be our BEST shot at another title. Bb feels otherwise, maybe he saw something in both players last year.
Not me man. I’d rather Bill & the staff coach all these young guys up and let them develop and see what we’ve got. Tanking is weak and doesn’t allow anyone the chance to truly get better, become leaders or instill confidence. See what you’ve got in the young guys this year. If they suck, whelp, you got a ton more cap space next year and can purge the guys you don’t want to add more draft capital. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have high draft picks. We’d get to spend months getting excited and debating over who we should grab just to watch Bill trade down a handful of times and get who he really wants.
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