Bologna Bob confirmed cheap

[DarrylS]

Last year they had a $30+ million under the cap and chose not to spend, next year they are something $130 million under the cap, what makes anyone believe that is going to change??
Have to wonder if the BB philosophy that you can "coach up" a marginal player still prevails in the minds of the Kraft family??

 

[mgteich]

sigh
I could see us signing one of the top LT's in the draft and Higgins on Day1 of the season.

Then, all this nonsense of not being willing to spend SHOULD end.

The best use of the $40M was NOT in the horrible 2024 off-season. The $40M will be handed to Higgins (or perhaps another WR) as part of his signing bonus and/or 2025 salary.

 

[Ring 6]

sigh
I could see us signing one of the top LT's in the draft and Higgins on Day1 of the season.

Then, all this nonsense of not being willing to spend SHOULD end.

The best use of the $40M was NOT in the horrible 2024 off-season. The $40M will be handed to Higgins (or perhaps another WR) as part of his signing bonus and/or 2025 salary.

How is the fact that we don’t spend “nonsense”?
Dead last in cash spent over 8 years, and at or near the bottom in any Kraft era timeframe.
You do realize that players we signed in 2024 would be here in 2025 right?

Yiu want to give Higgins a contract with a $40,000,000 cap hit?

 

[signbabybrady]

sigh
I could see us signing one of the top LT's in the draft and Higgins on Day1 of the season.

Then, all this nonsense of not being willing to spend SHOULD end.

The best use of the $40M was NOT in the horrible 2024 off-season. The $40M will be handed to Higgins (or perhaps another WR) as part of his signing bonus and/or 2025 salary.

And what about the other 80 mil?

And what happens if Higgins doesn't want to come here?

 

[Real fan 02]

Wish he would sell the team.

Add in that they are 27th this season in attendance..

 

[Real fan 02]

And what about the other 80 mil?

And what happens if Higgins doesn't want to come here?

I actually think we are in a good position with Higgins fortunate for us.. the Bengals owners are cheaper than ours. They have to pay chase.

 

[Rob0729]

Bectin would be better than our LG. He would be better than any of our Ts.
There were literally dozens of free agent OL better than what we are playing.

Your argument seems to be we can’t get an all pro LT so getting better OL players is useless, let’s just throw crap out there.

I didn't say they had to be All Pro. If you watched Becton for the Jets, he was as bad as Lowe is now. The guy was heading toward being forced out of the league after last year.

The Eagles got lucky that they moved him to right guard and he has played decent enough. But then again, there is no guarantee that he would have performed well at right or left guard here. Look at Onwenu. He is playing like garbage this year and he was solid prior to this year.

You are looking at Becton with the benefit of hindsight. If the Patriots signed the guy back in March or April, everyone would have blasted them for the signing at the time. He was awful. The Eagles turned around his career. He was major bust. Now he is serviceable. The Jets desperately needed o-line help this past offseason and they let the guy walk.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Eh, players get injured. He’ll be back. I’d rather give him money to have him for the future than let Kraft keep it in his bank account.

They are going to need to overspend in a big way. Not sure if Krafty is up for it.

 

[Sciz]

Add in that they are 27th this season in attendance..

Isn’t that just the capacity of the stadium? They’ve continued to sell out well before the season starts, even without ever putting single game tickets up for sale to the public for the last 5ish years. Meanwhile, Wikipedia says the stadium’s capacity is down over 4000 seats from when it opened, I assume due to renovations using that space for other stuff.

 

[Ring 6]

I didn't say they had to be All Pro. If you watched Becton for the Jets, he was as bad as Lowe is now. The guy was heading toward being forced out of the league after last year.

The Eagles got lucky that they moved him to right guard and he has played decent enough. But then again, there is no guarantee that he would have performed well at right or left guard here. Look at Onwenu. He is playing like garbage this year and he was solid prior to this year.

You are looking at Becton with the benefit of hindsight. If the Patriots signed the guy back in March or April, everyone would have blasted them for the signing at the time. He was awful. The Eagles turned around his career. He was major bust. Now he is serviceable. The Jets desperately needed o-line help this past offseason and they let the guy walk.

You are joking right?
You are saying there were no free agents to sign because the guy who was signed and is playing well would have had fans complain so it was smarter to build an OL off of the waiver wire? Because there was no guarantee. And guess we had guarantees with guys who got cut?

If we had signed Becton our OL would be better. What you personally thought he might be is irrelevant. He is far better than doing nothing.

The same goes for dozens of free agent OL.
The Patriots went out and built the absolute worst OL in the NFL. They literally could not have done a worse job.
You are arguing they did fine and why the world would we want better players if there is no guarantee.

You are literally supporting the worst job of building an OL in the league and maybe in the history of the league. What would you oppose? If we didn’t have enough players on the roster and had to forfeit? That’s about the only thing worse that what we did.

 

[Ring 6]

I actually think we are in a good position with Higgins fortunate for us.. the Bengals owners are cheaper than ours. They have to pay chase.

There are 30 other teams.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Top free agents did not want to go to the Patriots. Will that really be any different in 2025?

Which top free agents did not want to go to the Pats? I keep hearing this.

 

[Sciz]

And what about the other 80 mil?

And what happens if Higgins doesn't want to come here?

A lot more than $80M left, because that $40M contract could have a first year cap hit under $10M.

I feel like people need to start mentally preparing now for the Pats to have a bunch of cap space again a year from now. They could spend something absurd like $400M in cash (by far the most in NFL history) and still have $30M in cap space if the majority of that is spent on backloaded 4 and 5 year contracts.

 

[Real fan 02]

There are 30 other teams.

How many have 140 plus in cap space?

 

[Real fan 02]

Isn’t that just the capacity of the stadium? They’ve continued to sell out well before the season starts, even without ever putting single game tickets up for sale to the public for the last 5ish years. Meanwhile, Wikipedia says the stadium’s capacity is down over 4000 seats from when it opened, I assume due to renovations using that space for other stuff.

I guess that's what was reported as far as league stadium home attendance. Yes renovations, ect.

 

[borg]

How is the fact that we don’t spend “nonsense”?
Dead last in cash spent over 8 years, and at or near the bottom in any Kraft era timeframe.
You do realize that players we signed in 2024 would be here in 2025 right?

 

[Ring 6]

How many have 140 plus in cap space?

Are we giving him 140 mill a year?
Excess cap space over and above what he costs isn’t really relevant.

 

[Ring 6]

A lot more than $80M left, because that $40M contract could have a first year cap hit under $10M.

I feel like people need to start mentally preparing now for the Pats to have a bunch of cap space again a year from now. They could spend something absurd like $400M in cash (by far the most in NFL history) and still have $30M in cap space if the majority of that is spent on backloaded 4 and 5 year contracts.

They won’t spend to the cap. Not a chance. And there may be a lot of 1 or 2 year deals.

 

[Real fan 02]

Are we giving him 140 mill a year?
Excess cap space over and above what he costs isn’t really relevant.

Who is is going to be able to offer him more than us?..

 

[Ring 6]

Which top free agents did not want to go to the Pats? I keep hearing this.

It’s the excuse du jour for those defending failure.