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Bobby Wagner

I’m anxious and excited to see what moves Patriots make. We may see some four year contracts with the big part of the cap hitting years 2 and 3.
Where there is a will there is a way.
Cap is crap.
 
The Rams open up cap space via real extensions (not just voidable years) more than any other team I can think of. As they talk about imminent extensions for Stafford, Donald, etc, remember that these giant monetary figures will actually open up cap space in the short term.

But don't they have to do that before they sign another player? Can they move themselves further over the cap once the new season officially starts? Didn't the NFL officially start the 2022 season on March 8th?
 
But don't they have to do that before they sign another player? Can they move themselves further over the cap once the new season officially starts? Didn't the NFL officially start the 2022 season on March 8th?
I haven’t seen any updates in recent days, but as of about a week ago they were expected to have some cap-clearing moves gone before the 16th, when teams are first required to be cap compliant.
 
He’s been a great player but it’s time to get younger and faster on defense.
 
I’m anxious and excited to see what moves Patriots make. We may see some four year contracts with the big part of the cap hitting years 2 and 3.
Where there is a will there is a way.
Cap is crap.
Expecting a very quiet week from them.
 
He’s been a great player but it’s time to get younger and faster on defense.
Yes, we will be younger with Hightower, Collins and Van Noy.

Maybe, we'll even be as good.
 
Patriots will sign him to top $ but only after he's confirmed to be slow as a snail. Right now he's still too fast and quick.
 
Patriots will sign him to top $ but only after he's confirmed to be slow as a snail. Right now he's still too fast and quick.

Man, I get where you are coming from. The endless losing seasons, never getting a Chsmpionship, that’s just too much to put on the fans. Being a Patriots fan, it just sucks.
 
What are you talking about?
You said that we need to get younger and faster at LB.

We definitely will be younger.

You ASSUME that whoever get the reps of those players will be faster and better, Maybe, maybe not.
 
You said that we need to get younger and faster at LB.

We definitely will be younger.

You ASSUME that whoever get the reps of those players will be faster and better, Maybe, maybe not.

Yes, it’s a really strange concept that younger players tend to be faster than older players. I came up with it all by myself, no one has ever thought of it before.
 
He’s been a great player but it’s time to get younger and faster on defense.

I see this a lot and, no offense, but it isn’t realistic. Unfortunately, you can‘t get young on defense in one year. What you do is have a mix of young players with some veterans and phase out the veterans over time. If the Pats replace all their 2021 LBs with young guys, this defense would likely get worse.

I am not sure the Pats should sign Wagner, but he would be a perfect piece for a getting younger strategy. You can surround him with younger and less experienced players and he can mentor than and help cover for their weaknesses due to their youth. By the time these players emerge, Wagner is ready to move on.

Wagner could be a great mentor for McGrone, Uche, and Perkins as they grow as players.

The Patriots need to get younger and faster on defense, but that doesn’t mean they cannot sign a player like Wagner to help with the transition to that. He is certainly faster than Hightower, Van Noy, and Collins anyway.
 
I see this a lot and, no offense, but it isn’t realistic. Unfortunately, you can‘t get young on defense in one year. What you do is have a mix of young players with some veterans and phase out the veterans over time. If the Pats replace all their 2021 LBs with young guys, this defense would likely get worse.

I am not sure the Pats should sign Wagner, but he would be a perfect piece for a getting younger strategy. You can surround him with younger and less experienced players and he can mentor than and help cover for their weaknesses due to their youth. By the time these players emerge, Wagner is ready to move on.

Wagner could be a great mentor for McGrone, Uche, and Perkins as they grow as players.

The Patriots need to get younger and faster on defense, but that doesn’t mean they cannot sign a player like Wagner to help with the transition to that. He is certainly faster than Hightower, Van Noy, and Collins anyway.

Where did I say anything about getting the entire defense younger in one year?

I think the Patriots should try to sign Allen Robinson, and then hopefully draft Jameson, Williams, Burks, London, or another top WR high in this draft, then I think they should focus on adding speed and youth to their defense. I’m not the least opposed to adding defensive players in free agency, but I would prefer guys who are in their 20’s, not guys in their last contract. I won’t ***** if they sign Wagner, but overall I think the focus needs to be on speed, they looked old snd slow defensively at the end of the season, snd that has to change. I don’t think remaking the defense and team in one off-season is plausible, last year was a good start, they need to build on that and create a new long term contender, and that’s a 3-4 year process imo.
 
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