Bob Kravitz writes about Deflategate [Four Games in Fall Documentary]

[Actual Pats Fan]

Goodell should have been sued for what he did to the Patriots and Brady.

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I agree with Joker. Fraudell belongs in prison for racketeering and corruption. The real criminals belong in prison.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

You are relying on the veracity of the Wells report? Good one.

Wells=zero credibility

 

[SHOWTIME15]

You are relying on the veracity of the Wells report? Good one.

Your argument rests on what Ted Wells claims...wow.

Wells=zero credibility

Don Yee confirmed that Wells only wanted certain contents from Bradys phone, not the phone itself

 

[sb1]

Don Yee confirmed that Wells only wanted certain contents from Bradys phone, not the phone itself

In the first Wells report Richie Incognito allowed his phone and texts to be searched... and then literally over 1000 of his texts were leaked to the media by “a league source”. There is no chance that Brady’s private messages wouldn’t have done the same.

Im glad for Tom that he told them to pound sand.

 

[Ring 6]

Don Yee confirmed that Wells only wanted certain contents from Bradys phone, not the phone itself

Again you are relying on the credibility of Ted Wells, while referencing one of the most corrupt investigations ever seen.

There is nothing in his phone that can changed the laws of science.
And he turned over the list of every text and call.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

In the first Wells report Richie Incognito allowed his phone and texts to be searched... and then literally over 1000 of his texts were leaked to the media by “a league source”. There is no chance that Brady’s private messages wouldn’t have done the same.

Im glad for Tom that he told them to pound sand.

Which is why Yee was given the ability to produce only the relevant texts and emails to the league, not the phone itself

 

[venecol]

Looks like @TommyBrady12 represents Wells. Lmao. Que pendejo.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Sure, Brady doesn't have to turn over his phone or give a reason why he doesn't want to do so. But the NFL has the power to view this as an act of guilt. This isn't a criminal proceeding with the same standards. And you are assuming that Wells would have spent hours rummaging through his phone without any criteria. Wells said he would allow a third party forensics team to use particular search terms and only look at relevant texts and emails that come up. In fact, he allowed Don Yee to decide which documents that came up were relevant and should be turned over to the league. This is standard practice in litigation. In other words, Don Yee and Brady would control the production of those documents. Don Yee and Brady refused.

From the Wells Report, p25:



And do you realize that the entire 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals hearing focused on the destroyed cell phone? So tell me again, why is not cooperating with the above request from Wells a good/smart idea?

What “documents”? FFS, they had all the text messages already from McNally and Jasztremski.

The NFLPA absolutely did not want Brady to hand over his personal phone as it would set a bad precedent and it was relying on the Favre precedent to result in at worst a fine.
Brady got suspended because of Article 46. Public opinion went against him because people hate dynasties on rival teams.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Looks like @TommyBrady12 represents Wells. Lmao. Que pendejo.

oh look, it’s another example of our failed public school system...

 

[Ring 6]

another example of our failed public school system...

But you aren’t too old to learn

 

[resdubwhite]

Read the article last night. I mean Kravitz is a coward caught between two forms of cowardice. He's a coward because deep down he knows its BS and he's still clinging onto the edge of the cliff with the suggestion it was an orchestrated attempt to deflate footballs.
Secondly, if nothing happened and it was all for nothing then it wasn't him, Roger or Ted Wells fault that it happened. If was the NFLPAs fault for allowing Roger to execute order 66.
Double coward.

 

[voluntarysaftey]

In the first Wells report Richie Incognito allowed his phone and texts to be searched... and then literally over 1000 of his texts were leaked to the media by “a league source”. There is no chance that Brady’s private messages wouldn’t have done the same.

Im glad for Tom that he told them to pound sand.

And the texts Brady did turn over got leaked even though they had nothing to do with football.
No one should turn over a cell phone or personal laptop unless there is a court order -- or if there was a mutual agreement that NFL officials also turned over their phones/email -- because I guarantee those had damning anti-Brady messages.

 

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And the texts Brady did turn over got leaked even though they had nothing to do with football.
No one should turn over a cell phone or personal laptop unless there is a court order -- or if there was a mutual agreement that NFL officials also turned over their phones/email -- because I guarantee those had damning anti-Brady messages.

And what a precedent that would be for the players association.

 

[jmt57]

So I decided to google "Kraft good of 32", in case anyone had forgotten.

New England Patriots will not appeal NFL decision

Robert Kraft has decided not to appeal the discipline handed down by the NFL following the investigation into the use of under-inflated footballs in the AFC Championship Game.

www.nfl.com

Transcript of Robert Kraft's statement

The transcript of Robert Kraft’s statement in which he announced the Patriots will not appeal the NFL’s punishment for Deflategate: “You know, it’s been an emotionally charged couple of weeks, as all of you know. I’ve been considering what my options are. Throughout this whole process there’s...

www.nbcsports.com

"at no time should the agenda of one team outweigh the collective good of the full 32."​

So Bob, were Jerry Jones, Goodell, Irsay, and everyone else involved in the witch hunt also putting the good of the 32 ahead of their personal interests?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

What “documents”? FFS, they had all the text messages already from McNally and Jasztremski.

The NFLPA absolutely did not want Brady to hand over his personal phone as it would set a bad precedent and it was relying on the Favre precedent to result in at worst a fine.
Brady got suspended because of Article 46. Public opinion went against him because people hate dynasties on rival teams.

The documents they wanted were texts and emails. Wells wanted texts with other people as well, not just the ball boys. Again, Well wanted the contents of the phones, not the phones themselves, which Brady's agent confirmed. All Brady had to do was turn over any and all emails and texts that contain certain keywords like PSI, deflate, etc. The rest of his private stuff he would keep to himself. And again, the Appeals hearing before the 2nd Circuit focused almost solely on the destroyed phone.

Ultimately, Brady did turn over the contents of two of his old phones, which Wells had asked for, so I'm not buying the NFLPA precedent argument. However, the one phone that was most important to the investigation, the one Brady used around the time of the AFCCG, was destroyed the week of his meeting with Wells.

 

[The Brandon Five]

The documents they wanted were texts and emails. Wells wanted texts with other people as well, not just the ball boys. Again, Well wanted the contents of the phones, not the phones themselves, which Brady's agent confirmed. All Brady had to do was turn over any and all emails and texts that contain certain keywords like PSI, deflate, etc. The rest of his private stuff he would keep to himself. And again, the Appeals hearing before the 2nd Circuit focused almost solely on the destroyed phone.

Ultimately, Brady did turn over the contents of two of his old phones, which Wells had asked for, so I'm not buying the NFLPA precedent argument. However, the one phone that was most important to the investigation, the one Brady used around the time of the AFCCG, was destroyed the week of his meeting with Wells.

Brady's team: Favre didn't get suspended for not turning over his phone

 

[The Brandon Five]

The documents they wanted were texts and emails. Wells wanted texts with other people as well, not just the ball boys. Again, Well wanted the contents of the phones, not the phones themselves, which Brady's agent confirmed. All Brady had to do was turn over any and all emails and texts that contain certain keywords like PSI, deflate, etc. The rest of his private stuff he would keep to himself. And again, the Appeals hearing before the 2nd Circuit focused almost solely on the destroyed phone.

Ultimately, Brady did turn over the contents of two of his old phones, which Wells had asked for, so I'm not buying the NFLPA precedent argument. However, the one phone that was most important to the investigation, the one Brady used around the time of the AFCCG, was destroyed the week of his meeting with Wells.

Derek Gentile: Deflategate saga doesn't end with Brady suspension

During the investigation, Brady's attorneys offered to present the NFL with a spreadsheet with all the numbers dialed by Brady's phones during whatever span the NFL requested. In addition, Brady's attorneys offered to provide all the names to all the phone numbers on that spreadsheet. The NFL could interview who they wished.


This was a way to get around the fact that the NFL has no subpoena power. And it certainly has no legal authority over any player's private property.

Brady offered this compromise. The NFL refused. Why? They told his lawyers it was too much work. Then they complained he hindered the investigation.

As a sidebar, kicker Stephen Gostkowski also was asked to turn over his cellphone. He refused outright. Yet he was not accused of noncooperation. Why? My guess is, he wasn't Tom Brady.

 

[Simpelton]

I assumed you were paying attention at the time. You don’t remember The needs if the 32 outweighs the needs of 1 so we will accept the penalties and not appeal?

Translation: I am going competely off my own faulty memory n don't actually have any evidence whatsoever of what i'm saying

 

[The Brandon Five]

Translation: I am going competely off my own faulty memory n don't actually have any evidence whatsoever of what i'm saying

@jmt57 just posted evidence above

 

[Pape]

What “documents”? FFS, they had all the text messages already from McNally and Jasztremski.

The NFLPA absolutely did not want Brady to hand over his personal phone as it would set a bad precedent and it was relying on the Favre precedent to result in at worst a fine.
Brady got suspended because of Article 46. Public opinion went against him because people hate dynasties on rival teams.