Black Monday

[RobertWeathers]

Wouldn't mind Bienemy as a Josh replacement but no way he's making a lateral move unless Bill plans to step down soon.

Why do you think Bienemy is a good OC?

 

[luuked]

Why do you think Bienemy is a good OC?

I'd be careful with Andy Reid's OCs as well. Odds are that most of the creative stuff we see KC doing is coming straight out of Reid's head. Almost like an inverse Pedersen/Reich situation.

 

[luuked]

Can we hire Louis Riddick?

As what ? Zolak replacement ? Sure.

I am not sure why people are so high on him in terms of a GM job and with Eliot Wolf consulting in the front office I think we kinda know who'd be the Caserio replacement.

 

[Sciz]

Correction: Dolphins story published in error

ESPN published an incorrect story on Monday involving Miami Dolphins offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. The story has been removed from ESPN.com, and replaced with a correction.

www.espn.com

Edit: Oof, ESPN is has now retracted their report of the Dolphins firing Chan Gailey.

 

[203Pat]

For the pair together I think it's Houston or bust, and that's only even a possibility because of Easterby. There's no way the Lions can sell their fans on another Patriots pairing, and the same should be said for Houston. There are too many rumors about Jacksonville going in other directions (Urban Meyer). The Falcons look like they need a teardown, which isn't going to be an exciting opportunity for either of those guys.

Apparently Josh is friends with Easterby (at least he was when he was here) and it definitely seemed like Caserio had some interest in going to Houston a year or two ago so it wouldn't shock me if Texans offered McDaniels and Caserio finally went.

 

[borg]

Shad "Chacka" Kahn is apparently a Jerry World disciple....

Khan told reporters today that he has control of the team’s roster and will retain that control even after the team hires a general manager.
“I kept the roster control and the candidates, the General Manager candidates, I’ve been talking to them, that for the immediate future I’m going to keep the roster control. And I want the coach to know that also,” Khan said.

Shad Khan will be a hands-on owner in using the first pick in the 2021 NFL draft (msn.com)

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'd be careful with Andy Reid's OCs as well. Odds are that most of the creative stuff we see KC doing is coming straight out of Reid's head. Almost like an inverse Pedersen/Reich situation.

He has produced a few HCs who have won in this league. Petersen won a SB. The one who was OC in 2004 who coached the Vikings to the NFCCG w/ Favre and a few others.

FWIW they've done better than BBs

Ranking every coach in the Andy Reid coaching tree, from 1 to 10

I came across an NFL Coach of the Year list the other day and noticed a few familiar names. Ron Rivera. John Harbaugh. Matt Nagy. Doug Pederson’s name was notably missing. But he’s got a Lombardi Trophy, which kind of makes up for the ridiculous Sean McVay snub in 2017. But seeing all those...

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Sciz]

Different reasoning but same effect...Broncos now in the GM market. SF VP of Player Personnel Adam Peters was already linked to the Panthers because he was a DE for UCLA when Matt Rhule was the DL coach in 2001, but we can also link him to the Denver GM job since he worked there from 2009-2016.

 

[luuked]

He has produced a few HCs who have won in this league. Petersen won a SB. The one who was OC in 2004 who coached the Vikings to the NFCCG w/ Favre and a few others.

FWIW they've done better than BBs

Ranking every coach in the Andy Reid coaching tree, from 1 to 10

I came across an NFL Coach of the Year list the other day and noticed a few familiar names. Ron Rivera. John Harbaugh. Matt Nagy. Doug Pederson’s name was notably missing. But he’s got a Lombardi Trophy, which kind of makes up for the ridiculous Sean McVay snub in 2017. But seeing all those...

www.nbcsports.com

Pedersen has fallen totally apart without Frank Reich who clearly was the brain behind the 2017 Eagles operation. Nagy is also not doing particularly well given that it is the defense that is carrying the Bears.

Point being if you hire Bienemy to get similar creativity on offense as KC the worst case is that you will get mostly Reid's stuff without the ability to produce new plays. That's why I'd be very careful with hiring off Reid's offensive staff.

 

[203Pat]

Different reasoning but same effect...Broncos now in the GM market. SF VP of Player Personnel Adam Peters was already linked to the Panthers because he was a DE for UCLA when Matt Rhule was the DL coach in 2001, but we can also link him to the Denver GM job since he worked there from 2009-2016.

The shine from bringing in Manning has worn off and it looks like ownership realized he cant evaluate QB's. Osweiler, Paxton Lynch, Trevor Simien, Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, and Drew Lock all couldn't/can't play.

 

[FortressX]

Well this is interesting

Chris Mortensen and Tim McManus are reporting that Pederson’s status as Eagles’ head coach isn’t “firm” and meetings with Lurie could decide his fate.

Doug Pederson not guaranteed to return as Philadelphia Eagles head coach

Despite Doug Pederson sharing the stage with Howie Roseman during the Eagles end of season exit meetings with the media, Jeffrey Lurie could still decide to move on from head coach in the coming we…

theeagleswire.usatoday.com

Trade to JETE ?

Philadelphia Eagles head coach Doug Pederson the subject an interesting AFC trade rumor​

Philadelphia Eagles head coach Doug Pederson the subject an interesting AFC trade rumor

Philadelphia Eagles Doug Pederson could be traded to the New York Jets to be reunited with GM Joe Douglas

sports.yahoo.com

 

[captain stone]

The shine from bringing in Manning has worn off and it looks like ownership realized he cant evaluate QB's. Osweiler, Paxton Lynch, Trevor Simien, Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, and Drew Lock all couldn't/can't play.

Fangio should've been fired too...A new GM should have a clean slate...

 

[FortressX]

Fired, but in a fun way !

 

[203Pat]

Good chance to be fired:
Anthony Lynn
Zack Taylor

50/50:
Vic Fangio
Mike Zimmer

Would be somewhat of a surprise:
Mike McCarthy
Matt Nagy
Doug Pederson

I’m somewhat surprised.

 

[Sciz]

Apparently Lurie wanted us to know exactly why he fired Pederson.

 

[Ross12]

But I thought the Eagles were having fun...? I thought they showed grumpy old Belichick how it's REALLY done...

 

[FortressX]

Maybe the next Jete HC.
That will be fun !

Maybe not for Jets fans, but everyone else.

 

[Scotty]

So, is that the end of the head coaching culls ?

 

[jdlboot14]

Purge all ex-Pats! What a season for firing BB coaching tree.
Matty P w/Quinn, Dimitroff, BOB (w/ soon to be gone RAC)
What's the connection?

 

[amfootball]

Pederson getting fired really bring me happiness given he wrote that book after his SB win on "How he Did it." I guess the fun finally ran out in Philly.