Bill Belichick to be featured in new VICE series Dark Side of Football

[VectorPrime]

There are other possibilities, but I see two ways of how the Belichick episode goes:

• As Dr. Pain posted, it's a hit job. All the scandals, large and small, are rehashed as 100% true and there is plenty of speculation that there's even worse stuff that happened/is happening that we'll find out about eventually. Or maybe not, because the league is covering it up (which the league could have done with the deflated football and sideline camera debacles, but didn't, for some reason.) They might as well have Bill Polian and Marshall Faulk narrate the episode.
• It's closer to what Sicilian said: Everyone thinks Belichick is this terrible guy and there's all this negative stuff associated with him, but is that really the case? It could be something like, this clip on SportsCenter makes him look like a bad guy, but here's all this positive that doesn't make the news.

If I had to guess, I think they'll go with the first option, because there's an audience for that conspiracy, excuse-making nonsense. It's interesting that there is an episode about the reputation of the 70s and 80s Raiders. There's always been the perception that the Raiders bent or broke the rules and that made them cool. Two or three weeks later, the same show is going to say Belichick bent and maybe broke the rules and that makes him a very bad person.

This is a spin-off of their Dark Side of The Ring about pro wrestling. Does anyone know if a single episode of that series put a positive spin on something?

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I'm sure the episode will center on how the League Office and Jets conspired to try to block Belichick's move to the Patriots after Parcells resigned and how it conspired with Grigson and the Colts to fabricate Deflate-gate against BB. Can't wait for them to dive into the ugly details behind both those stories.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm sure the episode will center on how the League Office and Jets conspired to try to block Belichick's move to the Patriots after Parcells resigned and how it conspired with Grigson and the Colts to fabricate Deflate-gate against BB. Can't wait for them to dive into the ugly details behind both those stories.

...and that other jackass who ran gameday ops who has had it out for BB since the Jets days. The one who was "reassigned" to look after NFL interests in China.

 

[Zuma]

I'm not watching this sh!t show. I'll be avoiding all discussion related to the topic. I will be moving to Antarctica until said communication has ceased.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

After going 7-9 it is welcome.

Pats drop $150m on guarantees in FA and reload
Pats seemingly have a great draft and land their next franchise QB

Back to normal.

A day of reckoning is coming.....

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If they are going to take him out, now may be their only chance.

Krafty Bob probably funded it.

 

[sb1]

Here is episode 1. Jemele Hill is in it. Features Chad Ochocinco and other "diva" wide receivers.

Dark Side Of Football S01E01 Wide Receiver Divas | Dark Side Of Football Season 1 - YouTube

No idea what they're going to do with a Bill feature.

If this is the type of series it is then meh. Now if they really wanted to - this series does sound like it could take a close look at concussions (though the league would never sign off on that), the Manning HGH story (ditto), or the Saints and the Bountygate thing. Or the Ray Rice incident being covered up or Kareem Hunt being allowed back in the league and same with Tyreek Hill. Or events where money is involved like the Colts move to Indianapolis or Modell moving to Baltimore.

 

[RobertWeathers]

If they are going to take him out, now may be their only chance.

Krafty Bob probably funded it.

He sure as **** isn't stopping it

 

[RobertWeathers]

Here is episode 1. Jemele Hill is in it. Features Chad Ochocinco and other "diva" wide receivers.

Dark Side Of Football S01E01 Wide Receiver Divas | Dark Side Of Football Season 1 - YouTube

No idea what they're going to do with a Bill feature.

Jemele Hill is a race-hustling diva herself.

She was on this reality show Mrs RW watches. Was all bossy with the staff and got drunk , complained about the food, etc

 

[Brotherblues]

If you read the promo it says that it will feature BB... further on it then says:

"Participants interviewed for and appearing in the program include Chad Johnson, Mike Ditka, Plaxico Burress, Donte Stallworth, Jemele Hill, Bill Romanowski, Jim McMahon, Ricky Williams, Kyle Turley and Lincoln Kennedy, we’re told."

In other words the take on BB will rely on hearsay information... with the exception of Ochocinco, none of these players played for him.

Stallworth played for Bill. And I think he's publicly spoken very positively about his time with the Pats.

 

[sb1]

I really think Bill is going to be denied the honor of a unanimous first ballot HOF vote and that's sad. He will get in on the first ballot but not unanimously.

If that happens a small part of it is his fault for stupidly trying to lawyer his way around that taping memo but there will be voters that buy into all the conspiracy theories and the other nonsense and hold the whole thing against him. I bet even some of those voters who do this will be from the Boston media.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

I really think Bill is going to be denied the honor of a unanimous first ballot HOF vote and that's sad. He will get in on the first ballot but not unanimously.

If that happens a small part of it is his fault for stupidly trying to lawyer his way around that taping memo but there will be voters that buy into all the conspiracy theories and hold the whole thing against him. I bet even some of those voters who do this will be from the Boston media.

The media votes on it and the media hates him.

That would happen with or without taping. Spygate only became a thing because the media and Gawdawfuldddlll hate him.

The real lesson from Deflategate is that the league and media were Krafty enough to find that loophole to hammer them. They do get props on being able to blindside them.

As Beria said, "You show me the man and I'll show you the crime."

 

[sb1]

The media votes on it and the media hates him.

That would happen with or without taping. Spygate only became a thing because the media and Gawdawfuldddlll hate him.

The real lesson from Deflategate is that the league and media were Krafty enough to find that loophole to hammer them. They do get props on being able to blindside them.

As Beria said, "You show me the man and I'll show you the crime."

That's true too and that sucks. Don't embarrass the Jets I guess.

 

[Sicilian]

The media votes on it and the media hates him.

That would happen with or without taping. Spygate only became a thing because the media and Gawdawfuldddlll hate him.

The real lesson from Deflategate is that the league and media were Krafty enough to find that loophole to hammer them. They do get props on being able to blindside them.

As Beria said, "You show me the man and I'll show you the crime."

It's kind of the conspiracy theory I have regarding speed limits. Everyone goes over them, not only because you can get away with it, but because everyone else is doing it you have to keep up or it's actually more dangerous. But if you read the letter of the law, tickets can be issued for even 1 mph over. But they don't pull a bunch of people over for that all the time. Why? Because if you get people used to breaking the law a little bit on a regular basis, you'll always have "probable cause" to pull them over for anything else you want to. "I pulled him over for going 62 in a 60, but then I saw THIS..."

 

[Sciz]

Stallworth played for Bill. And I think he's publicly spoken very positively about his time with the Pats.

“I have nothing but love for Bill. He has done a lot for me. I appreciate him and Bob Kraft and the whole Patriots organization.”

Why do players love Bill Belichick? Donte Stallworth, ex-Patriots offer reasons

Belichick has quietly shown tremendous loyalty to some players, going well beyond the norm. “That’s who he is," Stallworth said.

theathletic.com

 

[patsfanincleveland]

It's kind of the conspiracy theory I have regarding speed limits. Everyone goes over them, not only because you can get away with it, but because everyone else is doing it you have to keep up or it's actually more dangerous. But if you read the letter of the law, tickets can be issued for even 1 mph over. But they don't pull a bunch of people over for that all the time. Why? Because if you get people used to breaking the law a little bit on a regular basis, you'll always have "probable cause" to pull them over for anything else you want to. "I pulled him over for going 62 in a 60, but then I saw THIS..."

It's a common theme when you thumb your nose at "The Man".

 

[RobertWeathers]

I really think Bill is going to be denied the honor of a unanimous first ballot HOF vote and that's sad. He will get in on the first ballot but not unanimously.

If that happens a small part of it is his fault for stupidly trying to lawyer his way around that taping memo but there will be voters that buy into all the conspiracy theories and the other nonsense and hold the whole thing against him. I bet even some of those voters who do this will be from the Boston media.

I'm certain of it.

Look how many spiteful, vengeful, moronic, ill-informed, NFL brownnoser sportswriters there are.

Save for the occasional 15 minute long symposiums on punting and lace-positioning, he has done nothing to make their jobs easier.

 

[old 55]

OT: Football related
Starz (free 7 day trial) is airing a college football flick "My All American" that will tug at your heartstrings.
A combination "Rudy" and Brian's Song" true story about an undersized/overachieving U of Texas football player, Freddie Steinmark.
Production wise....B level at best.....but the story will pull in.

I liked that movie. Yes, it seems like a made for TV movie, and an emotional tear jerker, but I do think it was a good story. I wasn’t familiar with the player and it was great to learn about him. Makes you wonder if today’s advances in cancer treatment might have saved him.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

I'm certain of it.

Look how many spiteful, vengeful, moronic, ill-informed, NFL brownnoser sportswriters there are.

Save for the occasional 15 minute long symposiums on punting and lace-positioning, he has done nothing to make their jobs easier.

Here in "theland", there is a guy named Tony Grossi who would deify Art Modell before he compliments BB. The guy got fired from the Plain Dealer a few years back for accidently posting things like "moron" and "idiot" on some media call with Randy Lerner when he still owned the Browns.

A true scumbag but the HoF values him enough to keep him on the selection crew. It's not like Cleveland is Pluto in relation to Canton.

Wrong Borges and CHB and Felger are unfortunately not isolated incidents.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Here in "theland", there is a guy named Tony Grossi who would deify Art Modell before he compliments BB. The guy got fired from the Plain Dealer a few years back for accidently posting things like "moron" and "idiot" on some media call with Randy Lerner when he still owned the Browns.

A true scumbag but the HoF values him enough to keep him on the selection crew.

Wrong Borges and CHB and Felger are unfortunately not isolated incidents.

Exactly.

Look at this so-called list of "blue-ribbon" selection committee members.

At one time or another a 1/5th of these ass-hats have buried BB.

Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee
Arizona	Kent Somers, Arizona Republic
Atlanta	Darryl Ledbetter, Atlanta Journal - Constitution
Baltimore	Scott Garceau, 105.7 The Fan/WMAR-TV
Buffalo	Vic Carucci, Buffalo News
Carolina	Darin Gantt, Carolina Panthers
Chicago	Dan Pompei, The Athletic*
Cincinnati	Geoff Hobson, Bengals.com
Cleveland	Tony Grossi, ESPNCleveland.com/WKNR Radio
Dallas	Rick Gosselin, Talk of Fame Network*#
Denver	Jeff Legwold, ESPN/ESPN.com*
Detroit	Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press
Green Bay	Pete Dougherty, Green Bay Press-Gazette
Houston	John McClain, Houston Chronicle*
Indianapolis	Mike Chappell, Fox 59/CBS 4
Jacksonville	Sam Kouvaris, Florida Times-Union/SamSportsLine.com
Kansas City
Las Vegas	Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange*
Los Angeles (Chargers)	Eric Williams, Sports Illustrated
Los Angeles (Rams)	Howard Balzer, Sports Illustrated#
Miami	Armando Salguero, Miami Herald
Minnesota	Mark Craig, The Minneapolis Star-Tribune
New England	Ron Borges, Talk of Fame Network*
New Orleans	Jeff Duncan, The Athletic
New York (Giants)	Bob Glauber, Newsday
New York (Jets)	Gary Myers, Author
Philadelphia	Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News
Pittsburgh	Ed Bouchette, The Athletic
San Francisco	Matt Maiocco, NBC Sports Bay Area
Seattle	Mike Sando, The Athletic
Tampa Bay	Ira Kaufman, JoeBucsFan.com*
Tennessee	Paul Kuharsky, PaulKuharsky.com/104.5 The Zone
Washington	Jarrett Bell, USA Today#
PFWA	Mary Kay Cabot, The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer
At-Large	Tony Dungy, NBC Sports Football Night in America
At-Large	John Clayton, ESPN Seattle#
At-Large	Jason Cole, FanSided.com
At-Large	John Czarnecki, FOX Sports*
At-Large	Dan Fouts, Broadcaster (Hall of Famer)
At-Large	Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network and Yahoo Sports Radio#
At-Large	Peter King, NBC Sports#
At-Large	James Lofton, CBS Sports (Hall of Famer)
At-Large	Alex Marvez, SiriusXM
At-Large	Bill Polian, SiriusXM (Hall of Famer)*
At-Large	Sal Paolantonio, ESPN#
At-Large	Lisa Salters, ESPN Monday Night Football
At-Large	Jim Trotter, NFL Network#
At-Large	Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk#
At-Large	Barry Wilner, Associated Press

Becoming a Hall of Famer | Pro Football Hall of Fame

Learn what it takes to become a Hall of Famer, the selection process, and who comprises the selection committee here at the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

www.profootballhof.com

 

[tuckeverlasting]

...and that other jackass who ran gameday ops who has had it out for BB since the Jets days. The one who was "reassigned" to look after NFL interests in China.

mike kensil

I really think Bill is going to be denied the honor of a unanimous first ballot HOF vote and that's sad. He will get in on the first ballot but not unanimously.

If that happens a small part of it is his fault for stupidly trying to lawyer his way around that taping memo but there will be voters that buy into all the conspiracy theories and the other nonsense and hold the whole thing against him. I bet even some of those voters who do this will be from the Boston media.

the boston media ,with a few exceptions, are the true massholes.