BGC 2023 RB/PTP Thread

[BaconGrundleCandy]

RB/PTP Thread

Looks like one of the better classes to come along lately. Ceiling could be 2017, floor 2020.

I'm curious how Robinson will test but he's got a ton of goods to offer on the field. I think he'll do well in jumps but not sure about runs. Well spoken, great attitude and looks the part with his size. Very well versed with the media. I love his footwork, agility and change of direction. Very smooth player from the line, 2nd level and open field. Good vision and always runs behind his pads. Runs with a slight lean very physical, nasty stiff arm. Very efficient setting up defenders. A lot of the time in college the biggest gaps are between the OL/DL. So initially you'll see these big holes at the line and a swarm of defenders behind them. So RB's in college have to be able to shift, set up 2nd level defenders and have some burst to run away from those smaller guys. Robinson is very good at all that. Don't think he has "long speed" but enough to be a hazard for defenses. Occasionally can make something out of nothing. He's got a little rec ability but doesn't have natural hands.

Jack Colletto is listed as a LB but is a very good short yardage back. Has taken direct snaps as wildcat. Tough kid that loves football. Low ceiling but versatile and will run through a wall for you. Late round - udfa but coaches love him on both sides.

Keaton Mitchell is an angle killing, burst machine with instant acceleration. Explosive kid that looks to have 4.3 speed with his burst and power. Once he digs in he's gone. Averaged over 11 per rec last year. Think he has some upside in the rec game for sure. Over 1300 total yards, 10 total TD's. Can break an arm tackle and make a defender miss with his stutter n shake. He can play and is a fun watch.

Zach Evans might be the best value depending on where he goes next April. Big time Texas RB that was a star in hs. Running for almost 5k. There are some off the field concerns here. A few teams walked away from him. There's stuff in the news but that's actually not what I'm concerned about. Some academic stuff but supposedly his GPA is up around 4. Nothing but good things from TCU coaches. I don't say anything unless I believe it and am told by someone I trust. So I won't but he'll be someone I'm watching closely for sure.
He's Dalvin Cook lite. Peripheral vision is on point and in concert with his feet. He can stop, cut back, spin, slide away from shots coming east - west. Really press the line before scrapping down and finding space near the sideline. Very much in control. Sometimes a little too patient but he's very confident and sure of his abilities. Plus lateral movements. He's got some nice tools. Pass pro is a weak spot but he's got some potential to be pretty good if it's comes together.


I didn't even get to Vaughn, Bigsby or Mohamed Ibrahim. Not to mention Gibbs who's going to absolutely tear it up with Bama. It's not easy to get Saban excited but he loves Gibbs. Recruited him hard. Very happy he's there. He could be a 1st RD pick.


Tier 1
Bijan Robinson - 6'/215 - Texas


Zach Evans - 5'11/215 - Ole Miss

Tank Bigsby - 6'/210 - Auburn

Jahmyr Gibbs - 5'11/200 - Alabama


Mohamed Ibrahim - 5'10/210 - Minnesota

Zach Charbonnet - 6'1/220 - UCLA


Tier 2A
Devon Achane - 5'9/185 - TAMU


Chris Rodriguez - 5'11/225 - Kentucky

Travis Dye - 5'10/190 - USC

DeWayne McBride - 5'11/215 - UAB

Xazavian Valladay - 6'/200 - ASU

Deuce Vaughn - 5'6/175 - Kansas St

Jordan Mims - 6'/205 - Fresno St

Lew Nichols - 5'10/220 Central Michigan


Tier 2B
Toa Taua - 5'9/210 - Nevada

Tavion Thomas - 6'2/220 - Utah

Ulysses Bentley - 5'11/200 - Ole Miss

Eric Gray - 5'9/205 - OK

Keaton Mitchell - 5'9/185 - Eastern Carolina


George Holani - 5'11/205 - Boise St

Sean Tucker - 5'10/210 - Syracuse

Marcus Major - 5'11/220 - OK

Roschon Johnson - 6'2/220 -Texas

Jalen Mitchell - 5'10/220 - Louisville

Kendall Milton - 6'1/220 - Georgia

Chase Brown - 5'11/205 - Illinois

Kobe Pace - 5'10/210 - Clemson


Tier 3
Rasheen Ali - 6'/200 - Marshall

Kendre Miller - 6'/215 - TCU

La’Darius Jefferson - 6'1/235 - Western Michigan

Chris Brooks - 6'1/235 - California

Evan Hull - 5'11/210 - Northwestern

Blake Corum - 5'8/200 - Michigan

SaRodorick Thompson - 6'/215 - Texas Tech

Trey Sanders - 6'/215 - Alabama

Jase McClellan - 5'11/215 - Alabama

Christian Beal-Smith - 5'10/200 - South Carolina

Treshaun Ward - 5'10/190 - FSU

David Bailey - 6'/240 -Colorado St

Tyjae Spears - 5'10/195 - Tulane

Kenny McIntosh - 6'1/210 - Georgia

Jack Colletto - 6'3/240 - Oregon St

Dominique Johnson - 6'1/235 - Arkansas

Henry Parrish - 5'10/190 - Miami

Kobe Lewis - 5'11/220 - Purdue

Damien Moore - 5'10/220 - California

Shamari Brooks - 5'8/195 - Tulsa

Jabari Small - 5'11/205 - Tennessee

Daniyel Ngata - 5'9/200 - ASU

Roydell Williams / Alabama / 5’10”, 208

Jaren Mangham / USF / 6’2”, 221

Nay’Quan Wright / Florida / 5’9”, 196

Re’Mahn Davis / Vanderbilt / 5’9”, 205

Dylan McDuffie / Georgia Tech / 6’0”, 207

Juwaun Price - 5'10/195 - Syracuse

Marshawn Lloyd - 5'9/215 - South Carolina

Cameron Carroll - 6'/225 - Tulane

Samson Evans - 6'/220 - Eastern Michigan

Ellis Merriweather - 6'2/225 - UMASS


Tier 4A
Nate Noel - 5'10/190 - App St

Camerun Peoples -6'2/220 - App St

Deshawn Fenwick - 6'2/230 - Oregon St

Frank Gore Jr - 5'8/185 - Southern Miss

Shaun Shivers - 5'7/190 - Indiana / 5’7”, 189

Braydon Bennett - 6'2/190 - Coastal Carolina

Kavosiey Smoke - 5'9/200 - Kentucky

Nathaniel Peat - 5'10/195 - Missouri

DeaMonte Trayanum - 5'11/235 - OSU

Trelon Smith - 5'9/190 - UTSA

Jay Ducker - 5'10/185 - Memphis

D.J. Williams - 5'10/215 - Arizona

British Brooks - 5'11/210 - North Carolina



Tier 4B
Sean Tyler - 5'8/185 - Western Michigan

Tyler Lavine - 5'11/230 - SMU

Marcel Murray - 5'10/205 - Arkansas St

Israel Abanikanda - 5'11/215 - Pittsburgh

Dezmon Jackson - 5'11/220 - Sam Houston St

Emani Bailey - 5'8/200 - TCU

Chris Tyree - 5'10/190 - Notre Dame

Titus Swen - 5'11/200 - Wyoming

Marquez Cooper - 5'7/185 - Kent St

Tucker Gregg - 5'10/220 - Georgia St

Chris Smith - 5'9/195 - UL-Lafayette

Brian Battie - 5'8/170 - USF

Jarek Broussard - 5'9/185 - Michigan St

Lyn-J Dixon - 5'10/195 - West Virginia

Malcolm Davidson - 5'10/220 - FAU

Austin Jones - 5'10/205 USC

Hassan Hall - 6'/210 - Georgia Tech

Chez Mellusi - 5'11/205 - Wisconsin

Kazmeir Allen - 5'9/175 - UCLA

Calvin Tyler - 5'8/210 - Utah St

Xavier Williams - 5'9/190 - Kent St

Keilan Robinson - 5'9/185 - Texas

Ta’Zhawn Henry - 5'7/170 - Houston

Johnny Ford - 5'5/175 - FAU

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I doubt Tucker of Syracuse is 5’10”, but I would love to see all 5’8-9” of him in a patriots uniform next year. Playmaker!!!!

 

[DaBruinz]

Looks like a really deep class at RB.. Could the Pats wait until the 4th round to get their 3rd down pass catching RB? Personally, I am fine with Rhamondre, Strong, etc doing it by committee as long as they can pick up the blitz.. In fact, I'd much rather that so that teams can't focus on just playing the pass.

 

[Scotty]

Just watched a few of the Jahmyr Gibbs videos on Youtube........WOW !

 

[nowayback]

Just watched a few of the Jahmyr Gibbs videos on Youtube........WOW !

Probably gone by 46, seems great but a luxury

 

[Scotty]

Probably gone by 46, seems great but a luxury

Looks an exciting pick but one that would cause the forum to explode. (Not a lost cause though as the player will be well known to BoB)

 

[DaBruinz]

I fully expect the Pats to add a bigger type RB who could be similar to Stevenson.

 

[Username]

@BaconGrundleCandy Thoughts on Keaton Mitchell as a day 3 pick?

His tape is fun to watch, undersized and lacking power for sure, but really nice hands, patient runner, good vision and very elusive

 

[Crazy World of Troy Brown]

Rams Met With Speedy 4.3 RB Compared to Super Bowl Champ: Report

The Rams visited the college alma mater of Aaron Donald to meet up with this potential prospect.

heavy.com

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

@BaconGrundleCandy Thoughts on Keaton Mitchell as a day 3 pick?

His tape is fun to watch, undersized and lacking power for sure, but really nice hands, patient runner, good vision and very elusive

I could have sworn I talked about him at some point. Maybe last year? Who knows but yes I'm a fan. He's got some wheels too.

 

[State]

I fully expect the Pats to add a bigger type RB who could be similar to Stevenson.

Then Mo Ibrahim out of Minnesota might be the guy.

 

[State]

DeWayne McBride. Interesting UAB runner who looks able to play at the next level.

 

[State]

DeWayne McBride and Tyjae Spears. Nuff said. Late round gold.

 

[PowerRunRevival]

From the recent Athletic article by Jeff Howe. Howe: Would Bill Belichick consider trading Mac Jones? Right now, nothing is off the table

They’re building the running game around Rhamondre Stevenson and have quietly shown interest in adding another blue-chip back in the draft.

I doubt they would draft Gibbs or Bijan but I could see almost all the other names being an option when the Pats draft in the 4th.

Here is a tweet from Howe following his article.


I hope this is the Patriots trying to solicit trades from teams interested in Robinson if he slips. If they picked him at 14 to have him split touches with Rhamondre I would be frustrated.

 

[State]

Zach Charbonnet is a real good RB. His family is pretty special, too.

 

[zimmy]

I might be in the minority but I'm on board with Robinson at 14 if Bill wants him. He's a HoF type prospect in my view and what this team is lacking is true blue chip players. I know he's a RB but I'm not enamoured with the 1st round OTs and the WRs available in the 1st project was good WR2s rather than WR1s. I would still be really happy with Zay and I like Darnell Wright but I wouldn't mind at all getting Bijan and then one of the second tier of receivers in the 2nd or 3rd.

 

[borisman]

Why is no one talking about Devon Achane coming to the Pats? This kid is going to be a pain for defenses. He can run and catch. Yes he's on the smaller side but I'm looking at him as more of a better version of James White and smaller version of Alvin Kamara. I don't think he can handle a full load of a starting RB but he is really good and is the second back off the bench. I know Bill needs his RB to be able to pick up the blitz and that is a weakness of his only because of his size. But if he slides to the third round I think BB should be all over him. I know we have more pressing needs with our first 3 picks but I just hope no AFCE team drafts him.

 

[DaBruinz]

Why is no one talking about Devon Achane coming to the Pats? This kid is going to be a pain for defenses. He can run and catch. Yes he's on the smaller side but I'm looking at him as more of a better version of James White and smaller version of Alvin Kamara. I don't think he can handle a full load of a starting RB but he is really good and is the second back off the bench. I know Bill needs his RB to be able to pick up the blitz and that is a weakness of his only because of his size. But if he slides to the third round I think BB should be all over him. I know we have more pressing needs with our first 3 picks but I just hope no AFCE team drafts him.

Pretty sure he was on @BaconGrundleCandy 's PTP board.

 

[bakes781]

I like Lew Nichols to fill the hole that Damien Harris left.

 

[captain stone]

Thanks BGC for that most excellent write-up at the top of the thread.

I didn't follow RBs much since Bill drafted two of them last year; I really liked what I saw, however, of Northwestern's Evan Hull & his potential on 3rd downs here, and had hoped that he would still be available when our picks at 184+ rolled-around... Sadly, the Indy bloodClots beat us to the punch - Again - and took him 8 picks earlier at 176.

Even after losing-out on Hull, Bill still had the chance to grab one of Zach Evans, Ken McIntosh, Deuce Vaughn, Hunter Leubke or Dwayne McBride with the pick he instead used on the ****ing Punter; so he obviously must be ok with who's currently in the building...