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ILB/PTP Thread
I really like this group and after watching most on here I think it's one of the more solid positions in this draft class.
The LB position has been caught in a transition over the last few decades. We're seeing the incredible amount athleticism and versatility put into the mix when making that position over. 10-20 years ago we'd talk about hybrids and about their potential. Well that potential has turned into reality and consistency in terms of playing the run and defending the pass. The position is still a work in progress but it's really caught up to what's asked and needed. Not easy finding guys that are smart, physical and willing to take on OL'm and have the speed and range to play in coverage. You see some of the guys playing today and it's amazing how good they are, how versatile the are. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of these guys in that group in a few years
Devin Lloyd is really intriguing. Well spoken, seems very intelligent and humble. Just listening to him talk you can sense a guy that has a good head on his shoulders. Very quick to praise and credit others. Gives thought out responses. Always talking about the team, winning and wanting to win a championship. Seems like he was brought up right. He's going to kill the draft process and interviews. Teams are going to love him.
Nice physique with room for a few lbs. Long athletic frame around 6'3 230-235. Wears it well and almost maxed out. Body of WILL with MIKE makeup. Body is a work in progress still getting used to it and what he can do.
Former HS WR, S & even punted I believe. Looks like a hybrid, a bit of a chameleon from play to play.
Utilizes his length strong hands and ability to sift through traffic in the trenches. Hits, extends and gets off blocks pretty quick. Good punch, will swipe blockers hands away. Shows the mental toughness and fight you need to have up front. Recognition and ID skills have improved but still need to get better.
Has plus quicks and closing speed. Plus lateral ability. Not a great athlete but plus in most areas which help and make up for being a tick slow at times when diagnosing. Very good in chase and pursuit. Really like the efficiency in which he moves and paths he takes to the ball. Very good in flow. His movements both North/South and East/West stand out. Sideline to sideline speed. Takes efficient angles and beats OL'm trying to get out in space. Recognition could improve but he'll pick up on and recognize tells and he'll sure as **** call it out. Big time talker always barking and communicating. He'll switch up alignment at times to make plays - for example he'll come down on the edge if he sees protection issues. Change his steps slightly for another run play.
Quick to get to his marks in coverage. Fluid with range to play in space, length makes it tough to fit a pass over or around him but he can get caught looking at the QB too long. Smart and isn't a big liability. His movements and skill set allow him to carry crossers and fly underneath. Again room for improvement but he could be an impact player in coverage next level if he can develop a better feel, maybe trust that first instinct a little quicker in zone. A little more awareness but a lot of this just comes with experience. Trail and error.
Has experience blitzing and rushing off the edge. Although he won't have the decision Parsons did/does to line up there consistently Lloyd can absolutely rush the passer from a variety of spots and make an impact in the backfield.
Good tackler. Will over pursue at times but reliable.
Smart steps - beats OL on stretch plays outside. Have to get a body on him early or he'll disrupt or help make a play.
Overall he needs work but is a very good player in all areas. He's versatile and effective. He's really good right now with plenty of room to improve. And if you've watched him he's shown he has in all areas. Especially in coverage but he's made strides everywhere. Love to see it and he's coachable if you can't tell. Responds to challenges, isn't going to run and cry when tested or criticism is needed. Possesses the mental and physical traits you want. Smart, humble, tough that leads by example.
Tier 1
Nakobe Dean - 6'/225 - Georgia
Devin Lloyd - 6'3/235 - Utah
Henry To'o To'o - 6'2/225 - Alabama
Christian Harris - 6'2/235 - Alabama
Tier 1A
Brandon Smith - 6'3/245 - PSU
Edefuan Ulofoshio - 6'/230 - Washington
Leo Chenal - 6'2/250 - Wisconsin
Jack Sanborn - 6'2/230 - Wisconsin
Channing Tindall - 6'2/230 - Georgia
Amari Gainer - 6'3/230 - FSU
Micah McFadden - 6'2/235 - Indiana
Owen Pappoe - 6'1/220 - Auburn
Brian Asamoah - 6'1/230 -
Oklahoma
DeMarvion Overshown - 6'4/220 - Texas
Quavaris Crouch - 6'2/235 - Michigan St
Ellis Brooks - 6'1/240 - PSU
Mike Jones Jr - 6'/220 - LSU
Chad Muma - 6'3/240 - Wyoming
Tier 2
Jack Campbell - 6'5/245 - Iowa
Nate Landman - 6'3/235 - Colorado
Payton Wilson - 6'4/240 - NC ST
Ventrell Miller - 6'1/230 - Florida
Damone Clark - 6'3/245 - LSU
Quay Walker - 6'3/240 - Georgia
Mike Rose - 6'4/245 - Iowa St
Jestin Jacobs - 6'4/240 - Iowa
Jack Sanborn - 6'2/230 - Wisconsin
Tier 3A
Shaka Heyward - 6'4/220 - Duke
Bumper Pool - 6'2/230 - Arkansas
Mohamoud Diabate - 6'3/220 - Florida
SirVocea Dennis - 6'1/230 - Pittsburgh
Isaiah Moore - 6'2/240 - NC State
Omar Speights - 6'1/230 - Oregon St
Devin Nicholson - 6'3/230 - Missouri
Drake Thomas - 6'/235 - NC State
Tier 3B
Mikel Jones - 6'1/230 - Syracuse
Jake Hansen - 6'1/230 - Illinois
DeAndre Square - 6'1/225 Kentucky / 6'1", 224
Kana'i Mauga - 6'2/245 - USC
Dee Winters - 6'1/225 - TCU
Terrel Bernard - 6'1/225 - Baylor
Luke Reimer - 6'1/220 - Nebraska
Anthony Ekpe - 6'1/235 - Ball St
Aaron Brule - 6'1/230 - Mississippi St
Kennan Pili - 6'3/235 - BYU
Riko Jeffers - 6'2/240 - Texas Tech
Nick Jackson - 6'1/230 - Virginia
Darius Muasau - 6'1/230 - Hawaii
Ivan Pace - 6'1/240 - Miami (OH)
Olakunle Fatukasi - 6'1/235 - Rutgers
Cam Jones - 6'3/230 - Indiana
Justin Wright - 6'2/235 - Tulsa
Baylon Spector - 6'2/230 - Clemson
Dillon Doyle - 6'3/235 - Baylor
Anfernee Orji - 6'2/225 - Vanderbilt
Chance Campbell - 6'2/240 - Ole Miss
Jojo Domann - 6'1/230 - Nebraska
Blaze Alldredge - 6'2/220 - Missouri
Tier 4
Jalen Graham - 6'3/220 - Purdue
James Skalski - 6'/240 - Clemson
Grant Morgan - 5'11/220 - Arkansas
Dorian Williams - 6'1/220 - Tulane
D’Marco Jackson - 6'1/230 - App St
Geoff Cantin-Arku - 6'4/230 - Syracuse
Shane Lee - 6'/240 - Alabama
Max Tooley - 6'2/215 - BYU
Justin Rice - 6'2/225 - Utah St
Josh Ross - 6'2/225 - Michigan
Jireh Wilson - 6'3/215 - East Carolina
Silas Kelly - 6'3/230 - Coastal Carolina
Diego ***ot - 6'3/240 - Navy
Jacoby Windmon - 6'2/215 UNLV
Jacquez Jones - 6'/235 - Kentucky
James Houston - 6'1/240 - Jackson St
I really like this group and after watching most on here I think it's one of the more solid positions in this draft class.
The LB position has been caught in a transition over the last few decades. We're seeing the incredible amount athleticism and versatility put into the mix when making that position over. 10-20 years ago we'd talk about hybrids and about their potential. Well that potential has turned into reality and consistency in terms of playing the run and defending the pass. The position is still a work in progress but it's really caught up to what's asked and needed. Not easy finding guys that are smart, physical and willing to take on OL'm and have the speed and range to play in coverage. You see some of the guys playing today and it's amazing how good they are, how versatile the are. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of these guys in that group in a few years
Devin Lloyd is really intriguing. Well spoken, seems very intelligent and humble. Just listening to him talk you can sense a guy that has a good head on his shoulders. Very quick to praise and credit others. Gives thought out responses. Always talking about the team, winning and wanting to win a championship. Seems like he was brought up right. He's going to kill the draft process and interviews. Teams are going to love him.
Nice physique with room for a few lbs. Long athletic frame around 6'3 230-235. Wears it well and almost maxed out. Body of WILL with MIKE makeup. Body is a work in progress still getting used to it and what he can do.
Former HS WR, S & even punted I believe. Looks like a hybrid, a bit of a chameleon from play to play.
Utilizes his length strong hands and ability to sift through traffic in the trenches. Hits, extends and gets off blocks pretty quick. Good punch, will swipe blockers hands away. Shows the mental toughness and fight you need to have up front. Recognition and ID skills have improved but still need to get better.
Has plus quicks and closing speed. Plus lateral ability. Not a great athlete but plus in most areas which help and make up for being a tick slow at times when diagnosing. Very good in chase and pursuit. Really like the efficiency in which he moves and paths he takes to the ball. Very good in flow. His movements both North/South and East/West stand out. Sideline to sideline speed. Takes efficient angles and beats OL'm trying to get out in space. Recognition could improve but he'll pick up on and recognize tells and he'll sure as **** call it out. Big time talker always barking and communicating. He'll switch up alignment at times to make plays - for example he'll come down on the edge if he sees protection issues. Change his steps slightly for another run play.
Quick to get to his marks in coverage. Fluid with range to play in space, length makes it tough to fit a pass over or around him but he can get caught looking at the QB too long. Smart and isn't a big liability. His movements and skill set allow him to carry crossers and fly underneath. Again room for improvement but he could be an impact player in coverage next level if he can develop a better feel, maybe trust that first instinct a little quicker in zone. A little more awareness but a lot of this just comes with experience. Trail and error.
Has experience blitzing and rushing off the edge. Although he won't have the decision Parsons did/does to line up there consistently Lloyd can absolutely rush the passer from a variety of spots and make an impact in the backfield.
Good tackler. Will over pursue at times but reliable.
Smart steps - beats OL on stretch plays outside. Have to get a body on him early or he'll disrupt or help make a play.
Overall he needs work but is a very good player in all areas. He's versatile and effective. He's really good right now with plenty of room to improve. And if you've watched him he's shown he has in all areas. Especially in coverage but he's made strides everywhere. Love to see it and he's coachable if you can't tell. Responds to challenges, isn't going to run and cry when tested or criticism is needed. Possesses the mental and physical traits you want. Smart, humble, tough that leads by example.
Tier 1
Nakobe Dean - 6'/225 - Georgia
Devin Lloyd - 6'3/235 - Utah
Henry To'o To'o - 6'2/225 - Alabama
Christian Harris - 6'2/235 - Alabama
Tier 1A
Brandon Smith - 6'3/245 - PSU
Edefuan Ulofoshio - 6'/230 - Washington
Leo Chenal - 6'2/250 - Wisconsin
Jack Sanborn - 6'2/230 - Wisconsin
Channing Tindall - 6'2/230 - Georgia
Amari Gainer - 6'3/230 - FSU
Micah McFadden - 6'2/235 - Indiana
Owen Pappoe - 6'1/220 - Auburn
Brian Asamoah - 6'1/230 -
Oklahoma
DeMarvion Overshown - 6'4/220 - Texas
Quavaris Crouch - 6'2/235 - Michigan St
Ellis Brooks - 6'1/240 - PSU
Mike Jones Jr - 6'/220 - LSU
Chad Muma - 6'3/240 - Wyoming
Tier 2
Jack Campbell - 6'5/245 - Iowa
Nate Landman - 6'3/235 - Colorado
Payton Wilson - 6'4/240 - NC ST
Ventrell Miller - 6'1/230 - Florida
Damone Clark - 6'3/245 - LSU
Quay Walker - 6'3/240 - Georgia
Mike Rose - 6'4/245 - Iowa St
Jestin Jacobs - 6'4/240 - Iowa
Jack Sanborn - 6'2/230 - Wisconsin
Tier 3A
Shaka Heyward - 6'4/220 - Duke
Bumper Pool - 6'2/230 - Arkansas
Mohamoud Diabate - 6'3/220 - Florida
SirVocea Dennis - 6'1/230 - Pittsburgh
Isaiah Moore - 6'2/240 - NC State
Omar Speights - 6'1/230 - Oregon St
Devin Nicholson - 6'3/230 - Missouri
Drake Thomas - 6'/235 - NC State
Tier 3B
Mikel Jones - 6'1/230 - Syracuse
Jake Hansen - 6'1/230 - Illinois
DeAndre Square - 6'1/225 Kentucky / 6'1", 224
Kana'i Mauga - 6'2/245 - USC
Dee Winters - 6'1/225 - TCU
Terrel Bernard - 6'1/225 - Baylor
Luke Reimer - 6'1/220 - Nebraska
Anthony Ekpe - 6'1/235 - Ball St
Aaron Brule - 6'1/230 - Mississippi St
Kennan Pili - 6'3/235 - BYU
Riko Jeffers - 6'2/240 - Texas Tech
Nick Jackson - 6'1/230 - Virginia
Darius Muasau - 6'1/230 - Hawaii
Ivan Pace - 6'1/240 - Miami (OH)
Olakunle Fatukasi - 6'1/235 - Rutgers
Cam Jones - 6'3/230 - Indiana
Justin Wright - 6'2/235 - Tulsa
Baylon Spector - 6'2/230 - Clemson
Dillon Doyle - 6'3/235 - Baylor
Anfernee Orji - 6'2/225 - Vanderbilt
Chance Campbell - 6'2/240 - Ole Miss
Jojo Domann - 6'1/230 - Nebraska
Blaze Alldredge - 6'2/220 - Missouri
Tier 4
Jalen Graham - 6'3/220 - Purdue
James Skalski - 6'/240 - Clemson
Grant Morgan - 5'11/220 - Arkansas
Dorian Williams - 6'1/220 - Tulane
D’Marco Jackson - 6'1/230 - App St
Geoff Cantin-Arku - 6'4/230 - Syracuse
Shane Lee - 6'/240 - Alabama
Max Tooley - 6'2/215 - BYU
Justin Rice - 6'2/225 - Utah St
Josh Ross - 6'2/225 - Michigan
Jireh Wilson - 6'3/215 - East Carolina
Silas Kelly - 6'3/230 - Coastal Carolina
Diego ***ot - 6'3/240 - Navy
Jacoby Windmon - 6'2/215 UNLV
Jacquez Jones - 6'/235 - Kentucky
James Houston - 6'1/240 - Jackson St