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BGC 2021 RB/PTP Thread

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BaconGrundleCandy

#1 Mac Jones fan
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I'll use this thread to talk about and breakdown the upcoming 2021 RB class.

Kinda rare to see the SR class out shine the underclassmen. Esp at this position, but that's the kinda class it looks like rn. It's May 2020 but I don't see a particularly deep class as it stands now. Obviously we have a year to go but I see a pretty clear drop off after 2nd/early 3rd tier. The top 10-15 look like they could definitely contribute right away but in terms of true feature backs we'll need to see some step up.

How I've graded the position. Always fun to look back at hits & misses

DRAFT GRADES - HISTORY 2011-PRESENT.xlsx

Tier 1

Travis Etienne - Clemson - 5'10/210


Chuba Hubbard - Ok St - 6'1/210


Najee Harris - Alabama - 6'2/230


Kylin Hill - Miss St - 5'11/215



Tier 2
Journey Brown - PSU - 5'11/205

C.J. Verdell - Oregon - 5'9/210


Kenneth Gainwell - Memphis - 5’11/190


Rakeem Boyd - Arkansas - 6'/215

Zamir White - Georgia - 6'/215


Elijah Mitchell - ULL - 5'11/215


Max Borghi - Washington St - 5'10/195


Jermar Jefferson - Oregon St - 5'10/215


Jaret Patterson - Buffalo - 5'9/195


Trey Sermon - OSU - 6'/215 (Transferring Oklahoma)


Mohamed Ibrahim - Minnesota - 5'10/210


Vavae Malepeaia - USC - 6'/220


Larry Rountree - Missouri - 5’10/210


Brenden Knox - Marshall - 6'/220


Spencer Brown - UAB - 6'/230


Ronnie Rivers - Fresno St - 5'8/185



Tier 3
John Lovett
- Baylor - 6'/215


Trey Ragas - ULL - 5'10/220


Dameon Pierce - Florida - 5'10/210


Javian Hawkins - Louisville - 5'9/180


Michael Carter - UNC - 5'10/200


Marcel Murray - Arkansas St - 5’11/195


Chris Evans - Michigan - 5'11/215


James Cook - Georgia - 5'11/190


Shakif Seymour - Toledo - 6'/215


Stevie Scott - Indiana - 6'2/200


Greg McCrae - UCF - 5'10/175


Ja’Tarvious Whitlow - Auburn - 6'/210 (Transfer Portal)


Kennedy Brooks - Oklahoma - 5'11/215


Brian Robinson - Alabama - 6'1/225


Trestan Ebner - Baylor - 5'11/210


Pooka Williams - Kansas - 5'10/170


Ty Chandler - Tenn - 5'11/200


David Bailey - Boston College - 6'1/240


Rhamondre Stevenson - Oklahoma - 6'/235


SaRodorick Thompson - Texas Tech - 6'/210


Tim Jordan - Tennessee - 5'11/205


Javonte Williams - UNC - 5'10/215


Demetric Felton - UCLA - 5'9/185


C.J. Marable - Coastal Carolina - 5'10/190


Shaun Shivers - Auburn - 5'7/180



Tier 4A
Shamari Brooks
- Tulsa - 5'9/195


Josh Johnson - ULM - 5'9/215


Andrew Claire - Bowling Green - 5'10/200


Hassan Haskins - Michigan - 6'1/220


Justin Henderson - LA-Tech - 5'10/220


Charles Williams - UNLV - 5'9/190


Stephen Carr - USC - 6'/210


Bryant Koback - Toledo - 6'/205


Corey Dauphine - Tulane - 6'/195



Tier 4B
Cyrus Habibi-Likio
- Oregon - 6'1/220


L.D. Brown - Oklahoma St - 5'9/190


Malcolm Davidson - FAU - 5'10/205


Lyn-J Dixon - Clemson - 5'10/190


Jashaun Corbin - FSU - 6'/210 (Transferred from Texas A&M)


Jaylon Bester - Miami (OH) - 5'8/185


Bentavious Thompson - UCF - 6'1/200


DeAndre Torrey - North Texas - 5'7/190

Tre Harbison - Charlotte - 5'11/215


Destin Coates - Georgia St - 5'11/200


Mike Epstein - Illinois - 6'/205


Gaej Walker - W. Kentucky - 6'/195


Raheem Blackshear - Virginia Tech - 5'9/192 (Transferred from Rutgers)


Bilal Ally - Umass - 5'11/185


Hassan Hall - Louisville - 6'/200


Khalil Herbert - Virginia Tech - 5'9/205


DK Billingsley - Troy - 5'11/210


Amare Jones - Tulane - 5'11/190


Jordan Mims - Fresno St - 5’11/195


Kobe Lewis - Central Michigan - 5'11/195


Devin Brumfield - Utah - 5'10/220


Isaih Pacheco -Rutgers - 5'11/210
 
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Scotty

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
I like the look of Najee Harris but what are the chances we take another running back in 2021 ? I think I read somewhere that 2 or 3 of our existing running backs are on their last contract year
 

patsfaninpa

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
Journey Brown is going to breakout. He has the fastest 100m time in Pa history 10.4. He’s up to 215 and benches 395 and ran a 4.29 before campus shut down.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

#1 Mac Jones fan
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I like the look of Najee Harris but what are the chances we take another running back in 2021 ? I think I read somewhere that 2 or 3 of our existing running backs are on their last contract year
Harris made a few moves in that South Carolina game I'll never forget. This clip especially.

Staying in shape. Looks trim?

I think we'll see next year play out exactly like this year. No one or maybe one prospect in round one, get your guy in rounds 2-3 for pennies.

Balt, Indy, Det did it right. Love the value, fit & what they do for those teams. I mean all 3 teams could have monster run games.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

#1 Mac Jones fan
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Journey Brown is going to breakout. He has the fastest 100m time in Pa history 10.4. He’s up to 215 and benches 395 and ran a 4.29 before campus shut down.
Agreed. They keep pumping them out. I was big on Sanders before he got a chance and feel the same about Brown. He'll be a good one. Nice ability to shed arm tackles, weak tackles at < 210. Heard he has a nice vert (40") and jump too.

Think he might have better patience than Sanders.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

#1 Mac Jones fan
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Man, Harris is so intriguing. Big man with patience, soft feet and hands. Can lower his pads and bruise you up. He's a grinder, kills you with consistency. 4th quarter back but can also get involved early bc of his rec skills. Big-time complement back though, change of pace - again finisher in the last 4-8 minutes. Tough, high effort prospect that wants to finish and get every yard.



 

Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
Harris of Alabama, etienne of Clemson have played great thus far this season,

the two North Carolina running backs are benefitting from great o line play.
 

Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
The fullback for Michigan, number 42, is someone we should look at drafting.

Johnson is jag at best, and needs to be upgraded.
 

Joey007

Pro Bowl Player

Not a 2021 prospect. But certainly a guy to look at in 2022. Nation’s current leading rusher.



BGC I would definitely like to hear your thoughts about this guy. Incredible balance of good size, strength, speed, footwork. A very well balanced back through and through.

 

BaconGrundleCandy

#1 Mac Jones fan
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Not a 2021 prospect. But certainly a guy to look at in 2022. Nation’s current leading rusher.



BGC I would definitely like to hear your thoughts about this guy. Incredible balance of good size, strength, speed, footwork. A very well balanced back through and through.

I definitely want to see more of him. Not a squaty guy but seems to have good balance/contact balance. I know he's making guys miss & picking up yac. One thing that always stands out when watching him is his patience behind the line. Let's his block a develop, lays bait and reads the 2nd level pretty well. Good patience and feel for the play. Decent little burst out the gate. He's been really good. I haven't really studied him but he's balling. Very smooth runner.

Really sets himself up nicely behind the line. Again good feel & patience behind the line.


https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1330277200537513986?s=09
 

Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
If we let white and burkhead walk this offseason, we should look at drafting the kid from Memphis on day 3. Might be an under the radar guy that can contribute immediately, especially after Michel breaks down in game three next year.
 

Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
Watching Iowa state, and their running back hall can really explode when he sees a hole. Not a lot of power, but enough to run between the tackles.
 

miloofcroton

On the Game Day Roster
I'm also a 49er fan, and I've mostly evaluated RBs to suit that scheme, which is very different from what the Pats run. That being said, I'm a big fan of CJ Verdell as a home run hitter, and I like Khalil Herbert as a chain mover on the inside zone. Javonte Williams looks like a bit of both and a potential star in the backing for inside zone systems.

If we're talking gap systems, then obviously Najee Harris looks good, but don't try to use him in the Niners offense.

How much gap vs zone are the Pats running in 2021?
 

Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
C.J. Marable has some incredible tape. I know we are stocked at running back, but I think this guy’s versatility would be huge in our offense!
 

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