Bedard: Team thinks Maye has made a huge leap forward this offseason.

[Wozzy]

I think he will be. We saw a nice second year leap... now it's time for the third year leap.

Agreed, I have faith. He seems like a really smart kid.

It’s up to Josh to hammer it into him. The short play that extends the drive is more important than the big attempt that doesn’t.

 

[farn]

….an under 25 year old runner up in both the MVP and SB is being bashed by some.

We’ll see how it goes : there is no question that steep competition (the best Ds in the league) found a way to limit Maye in the playoffs. Hopefully new weapons, better protection, and experience keep the QB trending upwards for the next few years.

I’m hopeful.

 

[Steve102]

….an under 25 year old runner up in both the MVP and SB is being bashed by some.

We’ll see how it goes : there is no question that steep competition (the best Ds in the league) found a way to limit Maye in the playoffs. Hopefully new weapons, better protection, and experience keep the QB trending upwards for the next few years.

I’m hopeful.

He's going to be bashed his entire career because he's not Tom Brady 2.0. I'm sure if we go back, there's guys who bashed Brady as well. Guys complain in an online forum.

 

[Triumph]

He was bad in the playoffs. I need to see it

After 2025 there are reels of film on Maye having success.

All that is being broken down this offseason and some DC will crack the code on how to stop Maye. Weakness in the NEP OL is a great starting point.

 

[rkarp1]

After 2025 there are reels of film on Maye having success.

All that is being broken down this offseason and some DC will crack the code on how to stop Maye. Weakness in the NEP OL is a great starting point.

it's a top 5-10 OL in the league.
Three #1 draft picks. Two very solid vet's. the highest rated OC in his draft class

 

[Triumph]

These types of get the champagne ready predictions never pan out.

Some on sportsradio claim that NE is the best team in the AFC.

 

[Triumph]

it's a top 5-10 OL in the league.
Three #1 draft picks. Two very solid vet's. the highest rated OC in his draft class

First off, Maye took off running much of 2025 not being sacked and saving the NE OL bacon.

Top 10 OL without stepping on the field? Everything looks awesome on paper until it gets real.

 

[Rob0729]

if X is to be believed, it looked like Maye and the Mrs were on a very extended vacation.

I think that is overrated. He just was more public about especially since a few of the trips were branding efforts for each. Just because he showed up for the weekend to play golf somewhere doesn't mean he wasn't working hard all week up to that break.

And I think she went on a few trips without him for her brand.

 

[Brotherblues]

Tom was so good at that. The ball was out of his hands before the ends could even turn the corner.

Gotta remember it took a couple of painful SB losses and post age 30 for Tom to really master that.

Looking forward to Maye making strides there but not Bradylike yet, if ever (which is fine).

 

[Pape]

Josh needs to get Drake to reverse the order of his reads. Instead of disliking being “Checkdown Charlie” Drake should be striving yo be “Quickdraw Drake Maye” treating the quick short passing game like it’s a long handoff complementing the running game. Use that to set up the deep kill shots.

Last year it seemed screens and the short passing game were much less effective parts of the Patriots offense than they were during the glory days. If Drake can get the offense clicking on that part of the game things will look much better.

Best part of it, I think he can do it with or without AJ Brown.

**** yeah... speed kills

 

[neuronet]

I have no doubt he will continue to improve: the embarrassments on the SB run are fuel for him and the offensive coaching staff. Not just tape for opponents.

These Patriots are not ones to just give up and cry. They are fighters.

Expect them to punch Seattle in the mouth.

 

[patfanken]

OF COURSE Maye is going to be better in his 2nd year in Josh's offense, but that doesn't mean he has mastered it. At best he's still in the elementary school phases of his learning process. The GOAT was 7 full seasons in the offense and 3 Superbowl wins before he had his "breakout" season in 2007 where he shed his title of "game manager". Plus, it took several MORE seasons before he famously uttered "I have all the answers to the test".

Drake Maye is not even ****ing 25 years old yet. There are rookies older than him, and he is JUST entering his 3rd year of his career. He has SOOOOOOO much more to learn and improve on. The kind of career that he has will depend on just how much drive he has to continually improve even into his 2nd decade in the league like Brady manically did. THAT will differentiate Maye from being "just" a very talented QB to being an all-time great like Brady.

I'll be gone before we find out the answer to that question, so I'll hope someone here will find me in the afterlife and let me know how he turned out in about a decade.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

The big difference this time around against Seattle is that I think this time we will be able to run on their (elite) nickel formation. A real high-end FB and a better OL (big on the right side and super athletic on the left) plus better blocking TEs will open up the field some and maybe even force them into base. Henderson won't have to think much - just follow the FB and decide which way to cut. Play-action and screens come to life.

 

[palialka]

This isn’t exactly groundbreaking news. It’s expected that he makes a leap this season as a young QB. He seems like a bright guy and I’m sure he’s been putting in the work watching film and getting physically stronger.

But we really won’t know to what extent Maye’s improved until training camp when he’s working behind the new OL and meshing with the new WRs/TEs.

 

[Real fan 02]

Rob,

One thing about this show wich I enjoy it..but.. says Greg Bedard podcast but nick cattles host it? Odd?

 

[Real fan 02]

The big difference this time around against Seattle is that I think this time we will be able to run on their (elite) nickel formation. A real high-end FB and a better OL (big on the right side and super athletic on the left) plus better blocking TEs will open up the field some and maybe even force them into base. Henderson won't have to think much - just follow the FB and decide which way to cut. Play-action and screens come to life.

Absolutely correct and adding a defense with a real Free safety that won't miss tackles, and a pass rush that can actually touch Darnold's jersey this time around...

 

[mikey m]

I am not sure if the playoffs were a good example. The oline was so bad that I think even Brady would have had a lot of problems.

But they do need to give Maye a safety valve where he can quickly dump off the ball ala James White or Kevin Faulk etc. They need to speed up Maye's processing speed at times (I assume this is where they see some advancement). I also think they need to design more roll out plays for Maye. Let him buy more time with his legs in a designed way.

I really don’t think personnel was the issue. We had Diggs, Pop, Chism if we wanted to call on him, HH as a decent quick hit option. Watching some analysis it was bizarre how committed to the intermediate to deep passing game with long developing routes Josh seemed through the whole playoff stretch when the OL was getting thrashed. I don’t know if he just had blind faith they would hold up, or that Drake could make up for it with his legs and throw on the run ability, or if he didn’t trust that Drake (or maybe those receiving options) could execute the quick passing game. Either way, they have to figure it out. Can’t just try to make small improvements to the OL, cross their fingers, and try it all over again.

 

[scott99]

It’s all about consistency and knowledge of the playbook. Stats aren’t the most important thing. The Pats, through free agency and the draft, are showing its all about protecting Maye and making the running game better. So he may not even attempt as many passes as last year. The Pats should be a more balanced offense, run game should be better with a good blocking FB in Gilliam and a good blocking TE in Hill. They obviously want to pound the ball and give Maye more time when throwing.

Man, it was a thing of beauty during those 2003 & 2004 seasons when Brady was already an expert in knowing the offense so well, and we had a good running game. That’s what you wanna see in Maye. Doesn’t need to be Brady, just needs to show consistency, and the Pats need to give him better protection (run game and pass protection) to do that.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

He's going to be bashed his entire career because he's not Tom Brady 2.0. I'm sure if we go back, there's guys who bashed Brady as well. Guys complain in an online forum.

I heard there were people who wanted to trade Brady back during the 2008 injury season.

 

[Love The Drake]

I heard there were people who wanted to trade Brady back during the 2008 injury season.

I hate to admit it.
I blamed Brady for the lack of development at WR.
I felt he didn’t have the patience to work with young talent.