Mogamedogz
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Not sure why he lost, he had one more win and era was simmiliar. Both clubs were said to be even, so its not like he had to be supeman pitching for a lowly club. You would think, if only one pitcher won 20 games, and everything else equal, that pitcher would get the award.
In the end, Becket didn't crack 200 innings while CC was a workhorse at over 240 innings.
I challenge you to make the argument that Beckett deserved the award over Sabathia, or even Lackey for that matter. Beckett being second is an indictment of the idiots who vote and how much they value name recognition and 20 wins.
Remember, nothing that happened in the playoffs counts towards the Cy.
I'd take Beckett over any pitcher in baseball right now thanks to what we saw in October, but that doesn't mean I have to be blind when it comes to the fact that he didn't deserve the Cy.
I challenge you to make the argument that Beckett deserved the award over Sabathia, or even Lackey for that matter. Beckett being second is an indictment of the idiots who vote and how much they value name recognition and 20 wins.
Remember, nothing that happened in the playoffs counts towards the Cy.
I'd take Beckett over any pitcher in baseball right now thanks to what we saw in October, but that doesn't mean I have to be blind when it comes to the fact that he didn't deserve the Cy.
If you rank the 44 AL pitchers with 150+ IP by the overall OPS of the batters whom they faced, Roy Halladay and Curt Schilling tie for first with .775 (OK, Halladay by a smidge). The AL East can be tough. Josh Beckett got the luck of the draw among Red Sox pitchers, though: Wakefield was eighth and Matsuzaka was thirteenth, but Beckett was only 27th out of 44 pitchers, facing batters with an OPS of .757.
CC Sabathia was 44th of 44 pitchers ranked. His opposing batters had a combined OPS of .738. Fausto Carmona was 42nd of 44 pitchers, facing batters with an OPS of .747. Both of the Cleveland aces faced unusually easy lineups over the course of the season. FWIW, Lackey was 30th, not far behind Beckett.
A difference of 19 OPS points between Sabathia's and Beckett's opposing batters might've subtracted a quarter-run odd* from Sabathia's ERA. If Sabathia's ERA were closer to Scott Kazmir's, not below Josh Beckett's, and if his record were 18-8, not 19-7, would it have made a difference?
If one takes quality of opposing batters into consideration, Sabathia and Beckett look very close, Carmona falls out of competition, and Roy Halladay becomes a dark-horse contender.
I knew you Boston sports fans would start whining when this announcement was made.
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Pedoria was even lucky to win the Rookie of the Year. I thought Joba Chamberlain should have won it, but I ain't going to lose sleep.
Wow, and I thought you would be too ashamed to come back here. Then again, have you posted on the Celtics forum yet? How about them Nets!I knew you Boston sports fans would start whining when this announcement was made. It's the way to go in Boston. Whine like babies.
Your team won the damn championship.
Why be obessessed of awards like that?
Pedoria was even lucky to win the Rookie of the Year. I thought Joba Chamberlain should have won it, but I ain't going to lose sleep.
For the record, I thought Beckett should have won it.
Let me guess. Santana stole Schilling's Cy Young award in 2004, right.
I knew you Boston sports fans would start whining when this announcement was made. It's the way to go in Boston. Whine like babies.
Your team won the damn championship.
Why be obsessed of awards like that?
Pedoria was even lucky to win the Rookie of the Year. I thought Joba Chamberlain should have won it, but I ain't going to lose sleep.
For the record, I thought Beckett should have won it.
Let me guess. Santana stole Schilling's Cy Young award in 2004, right.
From another place where I post:
Sabathia pitched for an ALDS team, had the weakest opposition hitting of any qualifying AL starter, and he still didn't win as many games as Beckett. At some point the non-parametric stat of enabling his team to win has to be considered, too.
Pedoria was even lucky to win the Rookie of the Year. I thought Joba Chamberlain should have won it, but I ain't going to lose sleep.
Let me guess. Santana stole Schilling's Cy Young award in 2004, right.
They owe Beckett next year now, and they know it. If he is in a close race next year for the Cy, they will vote him because they know he got screwed over this year.