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PATSNUTme said:
I'll answer that.

We are super fans. We are not just casual fans or we wouldn't be on this board. Anything that goes on with our team, it's coaches, it's players, it's owners interest us. Doesn't have to be connected to just football, it interests us to some degree or another.

It also doesn't mean that we have to be judgemental about what we hear or see about the Patriots people. Some will and some won't.

Does that answer your question? It really wasn't that difficult for me to admit or confront.
You're on fire today, NUT.:rocker:
 
Bella*chick said:
You're on fire today, NUT.:rocker:

Thanks. I don't know why anyone posting on this board would ask that question.
 
mgcolby said:
PFT did write about an engagement and hoodie's quote is right but it did not give any clues as to who it was. So where the dude pulled BB and Bonnie from is beyond me.


For the record. Hoodie is a LIFE LONG Patriots fan since the age of 7 who has been trolling the board for a long time but didn't join until recently. I've lived through all the Pats disappointments and heartache. I LOVE MY TEAM.

As for where I got this info, I first saw it in Dave Scott's column on BSMW but thought it had to be crap. Then I saw a thread on Boston.com call "Coach B engaged to B. Bernstein" but that's gone now so they must have taken it down. Then someone over at Pats Planet posted the PFT rumor.

I'm not trying to make trouble and I do realize it's just a rummor but I posted it 'cause I thought you guys might know something (the news about his separation broke on the messageboards first.)

I hope it's not true because it does change how I view him...sorry if that's judgemental. He's been someone I looked up and in whose judgement I had absolute faith.

That's the end of my defense.
 
Hoodie said:
For the record. Hoodie is a LIFE LONG Patriots fan since the age of 7 who has been trolling the board for a long time but didn't join until recently. I've lived through all the Pats disappointments and heartache. I LOVE MY TEAM.

As for where I got this info, I first saw it in Dave Scott's column on BSMW but thought it had to be crap. Then I saw a thread on Boston.com call "Coach B engaged to B. Bernstein" but that's gone now so they must have taken it down. Then someone over at Pats Planet posted the PFT rumor.

I'm not trying to make trouble and I do realize it's just a rummor but I posted it 'cause I thought you guys might know something (the news about his separation broke on the messageboards first.)

I hope it's not true because it does change how I view him...sorry if that's judgemental. He's been someone I looked up and in whose judgement I had absolute faith.

That's the end of my defense.

I never questioned your loyalty to the Pats I simply stated that I read the same thing on PFT.com and that I had know idea where you got the two names you did. If anything I was backing you up.
 
Sorry Mcgolby -- I quoted you but someone else defamed me by questioning my loyalty so I tried to killed two birds...

I just figured there were people on this board who could help me work out my angst.
 
Hoodie said:
Sorry Mcgolby -- I quoted you but someone else defamed me by questioning my loyalty so I tried to killed two birds...

I just figured there were people on this board who could help me work out my angst.

Okay, I'll help. But you must first explain your angst....is it because BB is technically still married or something? Or that you think this BErnstein thing is what ended his marriage?

Maybe I've just been living in a Brangelina world for too long, but nothing much really fazes me about this stuff anymore.
 
Hoodie said:
For the record. Hoodie is a LIFE LONG Patriots fan since the age of 7 who has been trolling the board for a long time but didn't join until recently. I've lived through all the Pats disappointments and heartache. I LOVE MY TEAM.

As for where I got this info, I first saw it in Dave Scott's column on BSMW but thought it had to be crap. Then I saw a thread on Boston.com call "Coach B engaged to B. Bernstein" but that's gone now so they must have taken it down. Then someone over at Pats Planet posted the PFT rumor.

I'm not trying to make trouble and I do realize it's just a rummor but I posted it 'cause I thought you guys might know something (the news about his separation broke on the messageboards first.)

I hope it's not true because it does change how I view him...sorry if that's judgemental. He's been someone I looked up and in whose judgement I had absolute faith.

That's the end of my defense.

Ok. since I brought up the doubts about you first, let me explain. You're very first post was controversal to say the least. Then you didn't post anything after that. No one else could find the info that you referred to. So, we started to suspect troll.

We do get trolls coming here trying to stir things up. One correction, you haven't been 'trolling" , you have been "lurking.' It took me a while to get use to the internet board lingo, too.

Anyway now that you have cleared that up, welcome to the board. I think that Ian is trying to set up a 'sticky" for new posters. It's always best if new people do a little introduction of themselves.

Hope that you continue to post.
 
Hoodie said:
Sorry Mcgolby -- I quoted you but someone else defamed me by questioning my loyalty so I tried to killed two birds...

I just figured there were people on this board who could help me work out my angst.

Further proof positive that coach spends 110% of his time on football fields, or doing football related stuff. He even finds his next wife on a football field!

Bonnie? He could do a lot worse.
 
Two years ago about this time, I was able to speak with BB down here at a golf course near Fort Myers, Florida..... As luck would have it we ended up playing a round of golf with 2 others. Naturally there was much football talk and at one point I made a comment about Bonnie Berstein along the lines of she sure seemed to know the in and outs of pro football and isn't she easy on the eyes too...... That kinda thing. I don't recall much of a reaction to the Bonnie B. comments that folllowed for the next minute or two. He did say that she was very knowledgable and professional in his opinion..... I thought it was a standard polite comment, statement and forgot it. Now you all have me thinking about again....
 
PATSNUTme said:
I'll answer that.

We are super fans. We are not just casual fans or we wouldn't be on this board. Anything that goes on with our team, it's coaches, it's players, it's owners interest us. Doesn't have to be connected to just football, it interests us to some degree or another.

It also doesn't mean that we have to be judgemental about what we hear or see about the Patriots people. Some will and some won't.

Does that answer your question? It really wasn't that difficult for me to admit or confront.
I think we share many things in common, particularly the passion for our team and the people involved in it. I post on the board for the same reason you do.

Its also clear that you don't require that your team or the people on it to be mythologized as something other than human beings who happen to be extraordinarily talented in the art of professional football.

The question, then, really wasn't intended for you, though I appreciate the effort. It was really intended for those who now breathlessly await the verdict as to whether their decision to elevate football coach Bill Belichick to Christ-like status was, in fact, a good move.

I would add that Steve Silva-like rumor mongering is hardly an appropriate 'thank you' to the man who has been chiefly responsible for bringing us, the football fans of New England, this unprescedented run of good fortune. If we really admire the man, we'll respect him by leaving his private life alone.
 
PATSNUTme said:
Thanks. I don't know why anyone posting on this board would ask that question.
see above.
 
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Bella*chick said:
Okay, I'll help. But you must first explain your angst....is it because BB is technically still married or something? Or that you think this BErnstein thing is what ended his marriage?

Maybe I've just been living in a Brangelina world for too long, but nothing much really fazes me about this stuff anymore.

Thanks Bella*chick. Let me see if I can explain it. I think it bugs me because it's just so typical middle-aged man behavior and I thought he was better than that. You know, dumping the minivan for a sports car. I also think it would be inapporiate of him to take up with a woman whose job it is to cover the team (see Derek Lowe debacle) and it's this exactly what Bill Parcells did to his wife of 100 years? In addition he isn't divorced and I think we'd know that for sure given that divorce records are public and they have alot to split up.

I heard David Halberstam say (and you can see the transcript on Allthingsbillbelichick.com) that when BB told him they were separating, he told Halberstam (who was concerned the book would look foolish) that there was no one else involved. I just don't want the man I admire to be revealed as a lying cheating jerk. God help me I don't want Borges to be right.
 
How do you know BB and BB aren't a recent coupling? Aren't you jumping to conclusions here? And, if BB was having an affair - which Borges has alluded to - so????? He makes mistakes. He isn't perfect. Is anyone? I am sorry that such news would hurt you, truly. But this is just football, afterall. If his family is okay - what we think means butkus.

BTW- and I know someone who is in the know, kind of-sort of (he is at the BB home in Weston, MA twice a week) says that BB is there all the time and that he and his wife, although seperated, get along great!
 
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Garbanza said:
How do you know BB and BB aren't a recent coupling? Aren't you jumping to conclusions here?


I'm assuming it isn't recent since the word engagement came up. Can't imagine he'd marry someone if they'd only been dating a short time. Plus I still have issues with her dating the coach and covering the team.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't she cover the Denver game and wasn't he very rude to her at half time?
 
Hoodie said:
Thanks Bella*chick. Let me see if I can explain it. I think it bugs me because it's just so typical middle-aged man behavior and I thought he was better than that. You know, dumping the minivan for a sports car. I also think it would be inapporiate of him to take up with a woman whose job it is to cover the team (see Derek Lowe debacle) and it's this exactly what Bill Parcells did to his wife of 100 years? In addition he isn't divorced and I think we'd know that for sure given that divorce records are public and they have alot to split up.

I heard David Halberstam say (and you can see the transcript on Allthingsbillbelichick.com) that when BB told him they were separating, he told Halberstam (who was concerned the book would look foolish) that there was no one else involved. I just don't want the man I admire to be revealed as a lying cheating jerk. God help me I don't want Borges to be right.

It would be speculation to say that this Bernstein thing is what ended BB's marriage. You could guess it and think it is obvious, but the fact is, we will just never know. Nor should we. And nothing will ever lend Borges credence, not even a decree from God saying Borges is actually an archangel sent to spread the word about the devil's minion, BB.

As for the middle-aged man thing, well, I won't deny that it seems like an awfully neat compartment to stuff men and marriage into, but again, it's too simplistic. There are literally so many reasons marriages fall apart, and the mid-life crisis my ego needs inflating thing is only one very, very small possibility. Again, only Bill and Debby know. One thing that does seem obvious to me is that you better know how to deal with long absences if you are the wife of an obsessive head coach. It seems like the cards are stacked against a football marriage from the get-go, regardless of the character of the person involved.

There are a million angles to every story. Even those involving Bill Parcells!

eta: about the covering the team angle, well, if they are indeed engaged, we don't know what steps Bonnie will take in her career. It's possible she'll change jobs, but I sort of don't understand what the big deal is about her covering the team anyway. It doesn't affect the outcome of the game in any way. Now, if BB wanted to marry the daughter of the head ref in the SB, it might be different.
 
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I hardly call covering a game - covering a team. For example, BB with - lets say, Wendy Nix - would be more aggregious.

Anyway, although this is a juicy rumor: why would Bonnie Bernstein hook-up with Bill Belichick? C'mon now......lets be real here.
 
Thanks. Very thoughtful reply. I'm still in pain though.
 
Garbanza said:
I hardly call covering a game - covering a team. For example, BB with - lets say, Wendy Nix - would be more aggregious.

Anyway, although this is a juicy rumor: why would Bonnie Bernstein hook-up with Bill Belichick? C'mon now......lets be real here.

i agree. she is really attractive in my book and she's what, 33, 34 yrs old? I'd see her dating someone like Brady before BB.
 
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Pats67 said:
I think we share many things in common, particularly the passion for our team and the people involved in it. I post on the board for the same reason you do.

Its also clear that you don't require that your team or the people on it to be mythologized as something other than human beings who happen to be extraordinarily talented in the art of professional football.

The question, then, really wasn't intended for you, though I appreciate the effort. It was really intended for those who now breathlessly await the verdict as to whether their decision to elevate football coach Bill Belichick to Christ-like status was, in fact, a good move.

I would add that Steve Silva-like rumor mongering is hardly an appropriate 'thank you' to the man who has been chiefly responsible for bringing us, the football fans of New England, this unprescedented run of good fortune. If we really admire the man, we'll respect him by leaving his private life alone.
Well said Greg.
 
One other aspect you are overlooking hoodie is the possibility that his wife cheated on him and that was the demise of the marriage. Noone knows and no person outside of the BB family should. It is none of our business what happened in their marriage.This is from PFT.com, Bonnie covering the game won't be an issue anymore even if the rumor is true.

Elsewhere, it's been confirmed that Bonnie Bernstein is done as a sideline reporter at CBS. We'd heard that she wanted out. The Los Angeles Times says that her contract wasn't renewed, which implies that it was a network decision. Either way, we've got a feeling that Bernstein has pommel horsed the shark, and that she'll never been seen or heard from again in a national format. (Unless, of course, one of those news magazine shows does an item on her efforts to fleece up-and-coming broadcasters out of $1,250 for a phone consultation on how to get a job like the one she doesn't have anymore.)
 
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