AVP didn't know Marcus Jones played offense until recently

[Family]

The other thread about firing for going for two doesn't match this.

Sorry it may have been for facing the wind in OT.

Good job guys.

 

[n1997y]

The other thread about firing for going for two doesn't match this.

Sorry it may have been for facing the wind in OT.

Good job guys.

I just saw this. Wondered why he hadn’t thoroughly studied the resumes of all his players. Seems like something I’d expect. Maybe the reason Mayo and Hughes and the rest of the staff didn’t tell him is they thought he’d already know it?

Marcus Jones took initiative to play offense with Patriots OC unaware of option.

 

[Family]

Coaching malpractice.

 

[Ring 6]

This coaching staff seems asleep at the wheel

 

[Family]

This coaching staff seems asleep at the wheel

Ok now the ball is really in Kraft's court.

You have perhaps a top 5 QB for the next decade at rookie rates going forward.

Great draft position. Tons of cap to acquire real talent with the best shiny piece in the NFL as a lure.

Get rid of this staff, and bring in a coach who will make a difference.

Rebuild complete.

 

[signbabybrady]

Out of touch.

How does the offensive coordinator not know how his team scored the past few seasons.

Meanwhile, Bill could tell you that marcus ran for 206 yards 15 years ago in pop Warner, and the wind was at his face 75% of the time at 32mph.

 

[n1997y]

This coaching staff seems asleep at the wheel

They’re playing Gomoku in a chess tournament.

It’s amateur hour. The boss is in over his head and hired an underling as HC that wasn’t ready for the job he got. That guy hired whoever he could find and convince to come work in a burning junkyard. Ended up scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[WinstonSmith]

A professional OC during the offseason should review every single offensive snap from the previous year and take copious notes on what worked and what didn't work. A professional OC on a new team should spend even more time doing this review so that he would have a strong idea of the strengths/weaknesses of his personnel before the preseason starts. He's the lazy stuck in his way guy that we feared he would be.

 

[Sicilian]

A professional OC during the offseason should review every single offensive snap from the previous year and take copious notes on what worked and what didn't work. A professional OC on a new team should spend even more time doing this review so that he would have a strong idea of the strengths/weaknesses of his personnel before the preseason starts. He's the lazy stuck in his way guy that we feared he would be.

Not trying to contradict your overall point, but just as a nitpick, Marcus Jones played 1 offensive snap all of last year. So AVP would have had to go back to 2022 to find anything tangible there. Maybe that should be the practice anyway, or someone else should have pointed it out, etc. But just looking at the previous year he wouldn't have seen Jones play offense at all.

 

[n1997y]

A professional OC during the offseason should review every single offensive snap from the previous year and take copious notes on what worked and what didn't work. A professional OC on a new team should spend even more time doing this review so that he would have a strong idea of the strengths/weaknesses of his personnel before the preseason starts. He's the lazy stuck in his way guy that we feared he would be.

He should also look at a dossier going back to college for every player on his roster. Especially important for a new OC so he can see where his predecessor might have overlooked or mishandled a player. Plus players that were injured would not be properly evaluated looking back only at last season. Kendrick Bourne is a good example of a player who was good then was mishandled by coaches that had him in the doghouse, and later was injured.

It’s another example of the coaching staff not doing the grind of diving into nitty gritty nuts and bolts details. Probably to be expected from the staff working for a HC selected for his schmoozing and boardroom style not his hands on coaching experience and deep mastery of all aspects of the game.

 

[PatsFan2]

It's not like we have an X-WR how about using Marcus Jones like one...why waste his speed??

 

[signbabybrady]

Not trying to contradict your overall point, but just as a nitpick, Marcus Jones played 1 offensive snap all of last year. So AVP would have had to go back to 2022 to find anything tangible there. Maybe that should be the practice anyway, or someone else should have pointed it out, etc. But just looking at the previous year he wouldn't have seen Jones play offense at all.

If he didn't score a TD I could almost excuse it.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Not trying to contradict your overall point, but just as a nitpick, Marcus Jones played 1 offensive snap all of last year. So AVP would have had to go back to 2022 to find anything tangible there. Maybe that should be the practice anyway, or someone else should have pointed it out, etc. But just looking at the previous year he wouldn't have seen Jones play offense at all.

One way or another AVP was not paying attention. My recollection is that there were statements specifically about Marcus not playing offense to avoid over taxing the player since he was already a key ST guy.

 

[Pape]

I didn't know this either... Or of I did, I confused him with the other jones we had milling about for awhile, or just plumb forgot...

Van Pelt? Out of the two of us, I will just say it looks bad for one of us when the words "didn't know" are uttered...

 

[jdlboot14]

I don't know, maybe this is why JuJu, Uche & TT are all playing for the SB champions, but we couldn't get one play out of them.
There may be a misunderstanding in the phrasing, but it doesn't take much to see this coaching staff doesn't know how to self scout, or pay attention to details that cost close games.

 

[oldrover]

The other thread about firing for going for two doesn't match this.

Sorry it may have been for facing the wind in OT.

Good job guys.

 

[Nikolai]

We're approaching early 90s ineptitude. Granted, those were really....really dark times, but this dumpster fire is making steady progress in that direction.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Ok now the ball is really in Kraft's court.

You have perhaps a top 5 QB for the next decade at rookie rates going forward.

Great draft position. Tons of cap to acquire real talent with the best shiny piece in the NFL as a lure.

Get rid of this staff, and bring in a coach who will make a difference.

Rebuild complete.

If they are going to do this then they need to have their eye on a guy who will be the long term solution at head coach. I don’t care what the sport is once you get into a cycle of hiring and firing coaches every other year the franchise goes to ****. The other factor here is that Wolf needs to be the one leading the search, and making the hire. He’s the one in charge of football operations, and it will be his ass on the line if it goes awry.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

I don't know, maybe this is why JuJu, Uche & TT are all playing for the SB champions, but we couldn't get one play out of them.
There may be a misunderstanding in the phrasing, but it doesn't take much to see this coaching staff doesn't know how to self scout, or pay attention to details that cost close games.

TT is on their PS, he isn’t playing and Juju and Uche have been invisible for the most part. Not the flex you think it is.

Offensive coaching staff Is the best part of the coaching staff right now. Drake Maye is getting better every game,. The play calling has been better, the scheme has been better, the OL has been better. The TE room is right know the 4th most productive in the league. (Rec and Yds).

and AVP has been doing that with JAGs except Maye and Henry. Maybe we can wait until AVP has playmakers and a real line before judging if his scheme sucks and he doesn’t know what is doing or if the scheme is maybe limited by the players he has.

 

[turkeyneck]

Coaching malpractice.

I wish they'd coach football; we have enough malpractice as it is.