Are we set at LB?

[captain stone]

You’re saying the HC did not chose his coaching staff?

SMH.

It was a Collaboration.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

 

[n1997y]

Maybe Wolf made the mistake of believing in the coaching staff?

He put the coaching staff together. Everyone save for Mayo and Covington.

It was a Collaboration.

Right. Because Mayo had no network. So Wolf helped hire guys he believed could do the job, to work for Mayo.

And once hired they worked for Mayo.

And as I said Wolf made the mistake of still believing in the staff when they were working for Mayo.

Overlooking the fact that they were working for Mayo.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

It was a fkn disaster of Wolfe's making.
Mayonnaise didn't have connections IMO

 

[TheRainMaker]

Our LBs suck. Spillane is good enough to be an every down guy but one who's very weak in coverage. No starting caliber player next to him. None of our EDGEs/OLB are really good. Jennings is such a lacking pass rusher it almost negates his good run play. Chaisson is so situational that he can't play in non-obvious passing situations. Landry looked washed in TEN last year just accumulating coverage and scheme sacks because he played a lot of snaps. If you count Keion White as an edge anything he does good he gives back because he has **** for brains and can't keep the QB contained.

They added baseline talent to get this from a bunch of non NFL caliber players to an NFL caliber unit but a weak one. Progress, but it's not a good unit and we shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking so.

The good news is that most teams rosters are terrible. The NFL has gotten so bad that you just need to be "good enough" in most areas as long as you have the QB. If you took the top 5 teams in the NFL and put them in a time machine into the early 2000's, they probably wouldn't even make the playoffs.

 

[Real fan 02]

Right. Because Mayo had no network. So Wolf helped hire guys he believed could do the job, to work for Mayo.

And once hired they worked for Mayo.

And as I said Wolf made the mistake of still believing in the staff when they were working for Mayo.

Overlooking the fact that they were working for Mayo.

Right. Preaching collaboration and Wolf saying not having such a hard ass approach. This directly affected the players and couple this with the worst roster in the NFL. 7 one score losses last season. Vrabel wins at minimum 5 of them.

Having no connection and guys feeling they worked for Wolf not mayo also had alot to do of why Brissett was named starting QB ver Drake who beat him out. Wouldn't be surprised if mayo went to Kraft by week 5 to tell him he wanted Drake starting. Glaser also played a part too.

 

[Real fan 02]

You’re saying the HC did not chose his coaching staff?

SMH.

Yes!!! Wolf did. On defense mayo promoted covington. Everywhere else Wolf had his hands all over the staff. Interviews were even reported to be " very light on football ".. like WTF...

 

[captain stone]

Yes!!! Wolf did. On defense mayo promoted covington. Everywhere else Wolf had his hands all over the staff. Interviews were even reported to be " very light on football ".. like WTF...

MayoNays also retained Bri-Bri & the lacrosse player as Safeties & CBs coaches, and asked old friend Donta Hightower to help as OLBC... I wish the New (same as the Old) boss had retained Bob Bicknell as TEC in addition to Jerry Springer as STC.

 

[Real fan 02]

MayoNays also retained Bri-Bri & the lacrosse player as Safeties & CBs coaches, and asked old friend Donta Hightower to help as OLBC... I wish the New (same as the Old) boss had retained Bob Bicknell as TEC in addition to Jerry Springer as STC.

I think bicknell left on his own right??.. it's really hard to see anyone still trying to defend last season.. .. last season.. every one was right.. it was a diaster.. Drake was the only good thing that came of last season.

 

[Real fan 02]

Active for 27 of 34 games

I wonder how many of the 27 games he played in??

 

[Real fan 02]

17 straight runs, without any discernible adjustments while that was happening? Should've told us all we needed to know.

Wich has never been done in the modern NFL era.

 

[n1997y]

I wonder how many of the 27 games he played in??

Here’s last year snap counts for him:

Source: Marte Mapu 2024 Fantasy Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

 

[Real fan 02]

Here’s last year snap counts for him:

Source: Marte Mapu 2024 Fantasy Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Seems like by late last season he was pretty much a starter playing over 70%of the snaps. While of course peppers was out for the a large part of the season as well as Dugger missing time. He played at S notably.

 

[mgteich]

Here’s last year snap counts for him:

Source: Marte Mapu 2024 Fantasy Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Yes, Mapu played a lot of reps at safety last year.

That being said, Vrabel saw the need to sign Epps, draft Woodson and to re-sign Hawkins.

If Vrabel really liked Mapu's performance at safety, he would be practicing more at safety.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yes, Mapu played a lot of reps at safety last year.

That being said, Vrabel saw the need to sign Epps, draft Woodson and to re-sign Hawkins.

If Vrabel really liked Mapu's performance at safety, he would be practicing more at safety.

Patriots moving Marte Mapu to linebacker, explained by Mike Vrabel

The third-year defender is now officially listed at a different position.

www.patspulpit.com

 

[n1997y]

Patriots moving Marte Mapu to linebacker, explained by Mike Vrabel

The third-year defender is now officially listed at a different position.

www.patspulpit.com

Useful breakdown from that article:

His usage the first two seasons reflects this. Of his 690 career snaps on defense, 313 have come as an off-ball linebacker type with 221 as a deep safety, 100 in the slot, and a combined 56 split between an on-line defender (31) and split out wide (25).

 

[Real fan 02]

Useful breakdown from that article:

I view marte as a chess piece, can be used to help with running QB'S like Allen, Jackson, Daniels, fields who we all see this season.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I view marte as a chess piece, can be used to help with running QB'S like Allen, Jackson, Daniels, fields who we all see this season.

I think you got this one right. We need a Mapu or two with speed for the running QBs, it makes a big difference.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think you got this one right. We need a Mapu or two with speed for the running QBs, it makes a big difference.

Agreed. A defense in 2025 NFL needs hybrid interchangeable players like him. I'd like to see him on the roster. Additionally we need to build back up the farm system like we used to be very good at doing. He's a drafted player and I'd like to see him get to a second contract here.

 

[stinkypete]

I view marte as a chess piece, can be used to help with running QB'S like Allen, Jackson, Daniels, fields who we all see this season.

Back to the original thread, the only problem I can find with the defense is that there are plenty of chess pieces, but we’re short one high end starter. If White plays DL we’re thin at LB, and vice versa. Mapu, Peppers and Dugger are all variations of the same guy, and each is a liability at mid-field coverage.

I think a high end coverage LB is exactly the missing piece. It’s unlikely that Mapu is going to be that guy.