Aaron Rogers on the Verdict: "A good day for the players"

[RecoveringCowboy]

http://nesn.com/2015/09/aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-deflategate-ruling-a-good-day-for-the-players/

 

[JMC00]

Not sure why he is opening his mouth, he is clearly untouchable in the league's eyes.

 

[PATS16N0]

This is why I like Rodgers. I mean, besides the giant mustache

 

[TomPatriot]

Not sure why he is opening his mouth, he is clearly untouchable in the league's eyes.

Big Union supporter. Came out very early against this ********, saying he has tried to inflate the ball above 13.5 psi.

 

[Zuma]

I think there is maybe a little bit of the, too much absolute power that frankly the players, we had a chance in 2011 to really make a difference in the CBA, and we didn’t. We left the commissioner in charge of a lot of those things, but our unions did a good job of appealing and helping our guys out.

IMO this should get more press. Aaron is a good doobie.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Watch your butt, Aaron. Roger will be coming after you next...unless a couple of owners with guts (i.e., not Robert Kraft) can get him out.

But, if he does come after you, Patriot Nation will have your back.

 

[PatsWSB47]

The article said Rogers likes the balls inflated to higher "allowed" range. NO! Rogers likes them higher than the allowed range. So much wrong information is routinely published. It has to be intentional. None of these liars have any business questioning any team or player's integrity.

 

[zydecochris]

Not sure why he is opening his mouth, he is clearly untouchable in the league's eyes.

Of course, that is true of Brady also. What league would conduct a witch hunt against its most popular player. Would the NBA have persecuted Jordan, their cash cow? Of course not. Similarly, the NFL would never persecute Rogers or Tom Brady,............

.....Ummmm, wait.....

I guess I don't understand the NFL. Maybe the money comes so easy that they don't have to operate like a normal business. The NBA makes money by marketing their stars.

.....The NFL....tries to destroy them.....

Can someone explain this?

 

[PatsBoy12]

Of course, that is true of Brady also. What league would conduct a witch hunt against its most popular player. Would the NBA have persecuted Jordan, their cash cow? Of course not. Similarly, the NFL would never persecute Rogers or Tom Brady,............

.....Ummmm, wait.....

I guess I don't understand the NFL. Maybe the money comes so easy that they don't have to operate like a normal business. The NBA makes money by marketing their stars.

.....The NFL....tries to destroy them.....

Can someone explain this?

I feel saying the NFL "tries to destroy [their stars]" is a bit of a stretch. I do see the point you're trying to make and I agree for the most part. However, there are some fundamental differences between the leagues and they, therefore, must function differently. Nonetheless, you're right that the NFL should be more careful to take care of their most popular players.

The thing is, though, I don't know how popular Brady ever was outside of people who like NE or are impartial to the fact that they win all the time. My perception has always been that the majority, including players, hate Brady. The league was out for the organization and they made Brady the scapegoat. That's where they come out looking extremely horrible as "the shield." You should protect your stars, not contribute to the destruction of legacies.

But alas, there was a judge who saw fit to right the MAJOR wrong. I really hope the owners just drop this, as they should. The Patriots, in my view, are making the right choice to not chase those draft picks. It hurts no doubt, but we all need to be on to Pittsburgh and beyond.

 

[zydecochris]

I feel saying the NFL "tries to destroy [their stars]" is a bit of a stretch. I do see the point you're trying to make and I agree for the most part. However, there are some fundamental differences between the leagues and they, therefore, must function differently. Nonetheless, you're right that the NFL should be more careful to take care of their most popular players.

The thing is, though, I don't know how popular Brady ever was outside of people who like NE or are impartial to the fact that they win all the time. My perception has always been that the majority, including players, hate Brady. The league was out for the organization and they made Brady the scapegoat. That's where they come out looking extremely horrible as "the shield." You should protect your stars, not contribute to the destruction of legacies.

But alas, there was a judge who saw fit to right the MAJOR wrong. I really hope the owners just drop this, as they should. The Patriots, in my view, are making the right choice to not chase those draft picks. It hurts no doubt, but we all need to be on to Pittsburgh and beyond.

A very well reasoned post, thanks. I admit I was going off the deep end and exaggerating a bit in the (perhaps weak) attempt to make a point.

I guess my point is that the current NBA Commissioner (who, perhaps not so coincidently, seems to love his sport) tries to work with his stars with some respect involved to expand the NBA market. They are part of the team.

I am not impressed with the respect that has been shown the NFL players, even their stars. They seem to be treated as cattle.....That is probably another overstatement, my apologies, this whole Deflategate thing has absolutely driven me crazy. The last year should have been a time to bask in the glow of another Super Bowl for the Pats, and this Deflategate crap has honestly robbed me of some of that joy. I'll try to be better behaved in the future.

Again, thanks for the well reasoned post.

 

[PatsBoy12]

A very well reasoned post, thanks. I admit I was going off the deep end and exaggerating a bit in the (perhaps weak) attempt to make a point.

I guess my point is that the current NBA Commissioner (who, perhaps not so coincidently, seems to love his sport) tries to work with his stars with some respect involved to expand the NBA market. They are part of the team.

I am not impressed with the respect that has been shown the NFL players, even their stars. They seem to be treated as cattle.....That is probably another overstatement, my apologies, this whole Deflategate thing has absolutely driven me crazy. The last year should have been a time to bask in the glow of another Super Bowl for the Pats, and this Deflategate crap has honestly robbed me of some of that joy. I'll try to be better behaved in the future.

Again, thanks for the well reasoned post.

OH man, I hear you completely on that last paragraph. Even Brady alluded to how miserable this past off season was for him, though he did it jokingly. There is always a little truth to a joke, I suppose. I have done my best (and a pretty good job, IMO) of not letting this ruin the fact that my QB (and this also refers to team and coach) won another SB. My QB is now tied with Joe Montana. My QB has more SB appearances than any other one and holds just about every SB passing record there is to be owned. The haters will always try to cast doubt on the wins, but I do not care anymore. I realize in life that this happens to almost anyone who experiences abundant success. Those who love you will celebrate (even if they're secretly jealous) and those who hate you will come up with all kinds of reasons why (sleeping with the boss, teacher's pet, etc.). It's just our stupid nature to be that way, though I can never understand why.
You, me and we are too close to the situation to look at it more objectively.


I don't want to make a longer post, and that is why I have refrained from pointing to the differences in the leagues. But there is no doubt that it is probably way better to be an NBA player than an NFL player. In fact, as much as I say football is my favorite sport, I would hope that my son (if I have one) never wants to play it.

My friend, our focus now should be on Pitt and beyond. We have a long season and a Title to defend. We lost some key players to last year's championship team, but we added some good pieces. Let's strap in and enjoy another ride because, like it or not, Brady is closer to the end and we simply do not know how much longer we have to see TB12 do his thing on the field. To be a fan for the past 15 (almost 16) seasons has been a privilege. Not to sound overly corny, but I know I will cry the day he retires.

 

[vyrago]

Big Union supporter. Came out very early against this ********, saying he has tried to inflate the ball above 13.5 psi.

But the NFL seemed to pay no attention because as they see it, he is Saint Aaron of the heavenly Packers while Tom is in league with Devilchick and the hell-bound Patriots.

 

[zydecochris]

OH man, I hear you completely on that last paragraph. Even Brady alluded to how miserable this past off season was for him, though he did it jokingly. There is always a little truth to a joke, I suppose. I have done my best (and a pretty good job, IMO) of not letting this ruin the fact that my QB (and this also refers to team and coach) won another SB. My QB is now tied with Joe Montana. My QB has more SB appearances than any other one and holds just about every SB passing record there is to be owned. The haters will always try to cast doubt on the wins, but I do not care anymore. I realize in life that this happens to almost anyone who experiences abundant success. Those who love you will celebrate (even if they're secretly jealous) and those who hate you will come up with all kinds of reasons why (sleeping with the boss, teacher's pet, etc.). It's just our stupid nature to be that way, though I can never understand why.
You, me and we are too close to the situation to look at it more objectively.


I don't want to make a longer post, and that is why I have refrained from pointing to the differences in the leagues. But there is no doubt that it is probably way better to be an NBA player than an NFL player. In fact, as much as I say football is my favorite sport, I would hope that my son (if I have one) never wants to play it.

My friend, our focus now should be on Pitt and beyond. We have a long season and a Title to defend. We lost some key players to last year's championship team, but we added some good pieces. Let's strap in and enjoy another ride because, like it or not, Brady is closer to the end and we simply do not know how much longer we have to see TB12 do his thing on the field. To be a fan for the past 15 (almost 16) seasons has been a privilege. Not to sound overly corny, but I know I will cry the day he retires.

Great post, well said.

 

[RayClay]

Aaron's just been pumping them damn balls ever since the decision.

 

[Bella*chick]

Watch your butt, Aaron. Roger will be coming after you next...unless a couple of owners with guts (i.e., not Robert Kraft) can get him out.

But, if he does come after you, Patriot Nation will have your back.

That's what I was thinking. He's placing a large target on his back by commenting at all. That's pretty cool of him.

 

[Koma]

It's good that Rogers said something like that. If they haven't already, the NFLPA should send out statement to all of their members to inform them why the court victory is important: The NFL has to follow a fair, agreed upon process and can't make things up as they go.

This is a little different conversation, but I've seen this sentiment mentioned a bit:

I think there is maybe a little bit of the, too much absolute power that frankly the players, we had a chance in 2011 to really make a difference in the CBA, and we didn’t. We left the commissioner in charge of a lot of those things...

I was listening to Pat Kirwan yesterday and he said he spoke to Goodell during the last CBA negotiations and asked him if he would consider a change to his disciplinary powers. Goodell's response was that it was non-negotiable. Matt Light mentioned something similar, that the NFL would not even consider changing the commissioner's powers during negotiations. It's easy to say the PA should have gotten this changed, but if the other side refuses to consider it, that's a dead end as far as negotiations.

 

[zydecochris]

It's good that Rogers said something like that. If they haven't already, the NFLPA should send out statement to all of their members to inform them why the court victory is important: The NFL has to follow a fair, agreed upon process and can't make things up as they go.

This is a little different conversation, but I've seen this sentiment mentioned a bit:



I was listening to Pat Kirwan yesterday and he said he spoke to Goodell during the last CBA negotiations and asked him if he would consider a change to his disciplinary powers. Goodell's response was that it was non-negotiable. Matt Light mentioned something similar, that the NFL would not even consider changing the commissioner's powers during negotiations. It's easy to say the PA should have gotten this changed, but if the other side refuses to consider it, that's a dead end as far as negotiations.

I bet there are some owners willing to change the disciplanary procedure now after the Bergman judgement.