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qb/ptp thread
Tiers can get a bit wonky but some years are heavy and deep, some arent. Like wr, this qb class is top heavy and deep. There will be a ton of good options in the 2nd-4th rounds if we get the majority of the class coming out.
Mestemaker isn't a "name" to the public yet but he will be soon. Hes got silly arm talent, truly top tier stuff for his age. Very "whippy" arm. It's on full display when he has to adjust to pressure and throw on the move. All these guys practice these passes on the move, off one leg etc Looks very natural making those off platform, athletic-type passes. He's got a big bag of tricks to pull from when it comes to his arm. Again top tier stuff. 6'4/215 with a special mix of instincts and creativity and is only 20. Hes a baby but when hes on hes on. He needs more big game reps. More practice against NFL caliber prospects. He'll get that at OKST. When he remains patient, trust his protection hes very capable of going through his progressions and making good decisions. Very efficient on rpo. Quick release really shines off those plays. Very quick compact delivery although his mechanics do need a lot of work. Very good on short-intermediate stuff. Very nice deep although in can fall flat or take off on him a bit. Hes got some athleticism as well. Definitely much more of a passer but like almost every qb nowadays he can take off if he needs to. His mechanics are the main issue. His footwork can be a mess. From stance, drive leg to just happy feet. Has to adjust to launch point at times. Has to tighten up his delivery on a whole. Its quick but he drops his hands too much. Hes a very smart kid. He didnt play qb in hs, wasn't a starter, walked on North Texas, started immediately and looked liked hed belong and was a 5* recruit after 1 game. Passed for over 600 yards in another. He's got a nice sense of poise about him on and off the field. Morris is perfect for a guy like him. I expect him to be a future 1st round pick for sure. This year or 28. Hes got plenty of time if he wants.
I know theres a few names missing. Ill add as I get situated.
Tier 1A
Dante Moore - Oregon - 6-2 /210
Arch Manning - Texas - 6'3/220
Darian Mensah - Miami - 6'3/205
Drew Mestemaker - OK ST - 6'4/215
Julian Sayin - OSU - 6'1/205
Trinidad Chambliss - Ole Miss - 5'11/200
Tier 1B
Sam Leavitt - LSU - 6'1/210
CJ Carr - Notre Dame - 6'2/210
Jayden Maiava - USC - 6'3/230
Tier 2
LaNorris Sellers - South Carolina - 6'2/240
John Mateer - Oklahoma - 6'/225
Rocco Becht - PSU - 6'/210
Josh Hoover - Indiana - 6'/200
Brendan Sorsby - Texas Tech - 6'2/235
Tier 3A
Austin Simmons - Missouri - 6'3/215
Nico Iamaleava - UCLA - 6'5/215
DJ Lagway - Baylor - 6'3/240
Gunner Stockton - Georgia - 6'/215
Walker Eget - Duke - 6'2/225
Marcel Reed - TAMU -6'1/185
Brendan Sorsby - Texas Tech - 6'2/235
CJ Bailey - NC State - 6'5/215
Tier 3B
Demond Williams - Washington - 5'10/190
Conner Weigman - Houston - 6'2/210
Jaden Craig - TCU - 6'2/230
Byrum Brown - Auburn - 6'3/230
Colton Jospeh - Wisconsin - 6'1/200
Tier 4
Aidan Chiles - Northwestern - 6'2/225
Luke Kromenhoek - South Florida - 6'3/220
Drake Lindsey - Minnesota - 6'4/230
Avery Johnson - Kansas State - 6'2/195
Beau Brungard - Youngstown State - 6'/215
Katin Houser - Illinois - 6'3/225
Beau Pribula - Virginia - 6'2/215
Caden Veltkamp - Florida Atlantic - 6'5/235
Chase Mason - South Dakota State - 6'3/240
Andrew Body - Alabama State - 6'/205
Tier 5
Owen McCown - UTSA - 6'1/190
Tyler Van Dyke - SMU - 6'3/230
Steve Angeli - Syracuse - 6'2/210
Eli Holstein - Virginia - 6'3/225
DJ Williams - Southern Illinois - 6'1/220
Devin Brown - Weber State - 6'2/215
Maalik Murphy - Oregon State - 6-4/235
Dylan Lonergan - Rutgers - 6'1/215
Devon Dampier - Utah - 5'10/210
Tyler Van Dyke - SMU - 6'3/230
Amari Odom - Syracuse - 6'3/205
Gio Lopez - Wake Forest - 6'/205
Jackson Arnold - UNLV - 6'/210
Noah Fifita - Arizona - 5'10/190
Maddux Madsen - Boise State - 5'10/210
Malachi Nelson - Syracuse - 6'2/195
Tiers can get a bit wonky but some years are heavy and deep, some arent. Like wr, this qb class is top heavy and deep. There will be a ton of good options in the 2nd-4th rounds if we get the majority of the class coming out.
Mestemaker isn't a "name" to the public yet but he will be soon. Hes got silly arm talent, truly top tier stuff for his age. Very "whippy" arm. It's on full display when he has to adjust to pressure and throw on the move. All these guys practice these passes on the move, off one leg etc Looks very natural making those off platform, athletic-type passes. He's got a big bag of tricks to pull from when it comes to his arm. Again top tier stuff. 6'4/215 with a special mix of instincts and creativity and is only 20. Hes a baby but when hes on hes on. He needs more big game reps. More practice against NFL caliber prospects. He'll get that at OKST. When he remains patient, trust his protection hes very capable of going through his progressions and making good decisions. Very efficient on rpo. Quick release really shines off those plays. Very quick compact delivery although his mechanics do need a lot of work. Very good on short-intermediate stuff. Very nice deep although in can fall flat or take off on him a bit. Hes got some athleticism as well. Definitely much more of a passer but like almost every qb nowadays he can take off if he needs to. His mechanics are the main issue. His footwork can be a mess. From stance, drive leg to just happy feet. Has to adjust to launch point at times. Has to tighten up his delivery on a whole. Its quick but he drops his hands too much. Hes a very smart kid. He didnt play qb in hs, wasn't a starter, walked on North Texas, started immediately and looked liked hed belong and was a 5* recruit after 1 game. Passed for over 600 yards in another. He's got a nice sense of poise about him on and off the field. Morris is perfect for a guy like him. I expect him to be a future 1st round pick for sure. This year or 28. Hes got plenty of time if he wants.
I know theres a few names missing. Ill add as I get situated.
Tier 1A
Dante Moore - Oregon - 6-2 /210
Arch Manning - Texas - 6'3/220
Darian Mensah - Miami - 6'3/205
Drew Mestemaker - OK ST - 6'4/215
Julian Sayin - OSU - 6'1/205
Trinidad Chambliss - Ole Miss - 5'11/200
Tier 1B
Sam Leavitt - LSU - 6'1/210
CJ Carr - Notre Dame - 6'2/210
Jayden Maiava - USC - 6'3/230
Tier 2
LaNorris Sellers - South Carolina - 6'2/240
John Mateer - Oklahoma - 6'/225
Rocco Becht - PSU - 6'/210
Josh Hoover - Indiana - 6'/200
Brendan Sorsby - Texas Tech - 6'2/235
Tier 3A
Austin Simmons - Missouri - 6'3/215
Nico Iamaleava - UCLA - 6'5/215
DJ Lagway - Baylor - 6'3/240
Gunner Stockton - Georgia - 6'/215
Walker Eget - Duke - 6'2/225
Marcel Reed - TAMU -6'1/185
Brendan Sorsby - Texas Tech - 6'2/235
CJ Bailey - NC State - 6'5/215
Tier 3B
Demond Williams - Washington - 5'10/190
Conner Weigman - Houston - 6'2/210
Jaden Craig - TCU - 6'2/230
Byrum Brown - Auburn - 6'3/230
Colton Jospeh - Wisconsin - 6'1/200
Tier 4
Aidan Chiles - Northwestern - 6'2/225
Luke Kromenhoek - South Florida - 6'3/220
Drake Lindsey - Minnesota - 6'4/230
Avery Johnson - Kansas State - 6'2/195
Beau Brungard - Youngstown State - 6'/215
Katin Houser - Illinois - 6'3/225
Beau Pribula - Virginia - 6'2/215
Caden Veltkamp - Florida Atlantic - 6'5/235
Chase Mason - South Dakota State - 6'3/240
Andrew Body - Alabama State - 6'/205
Tier 5
Owen McCown - UTSA - 6'1/190
Tyler Van Dyke - SMU - 6'3/230
Steve Angeli - Syracuse - 6'2/210
Eli Holstein - Virginia - 6'3/225
DJ Williams - Southern Illinois - 6'1/220
Devin Brown - Weber State - 6'2/215
Maalik Murphy - Oregon State - 6-4/235
Dylan Lonergan - Rutgers - 6'1/215
Devon Dampier - Utah - 5'10/210
Tyler Van Dyke - SMU - 6'3/230
Amari Odom - Syracuse - 6'3/205
Gio Lopez - Wake Forest - 6'/205
Jackson Arnold - UNLV - 6'/210
Noah Fifita - Arizona - 5'10/190
Maddux Madsen - Boise State - 5'10/210
Malachi Nelson - Syracuse - 6'2/195











