PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL POST GAME Thread - Patriots fall to Miami 34-15

[Ross12]

 

[PatsFan2]

This is the worst team I have seen in my 17 years of patriots fandom .. and Maye looks like the second coming of Brady with far superior running ability.

I am bidding adios to this season. It's unwatchable and not good for heart. Will probably be signing off from the forum too to reign back in some part of positivity.


Hopefully next season might be better. But if I don't see wholesale changes in coaching or front office suspect it could be the same even if we draft high. We squandered this years draft and not confident if they can do better next season when the draft class is considered meh and FA on offense is meh barring 2 or 3 players. Doubt free agents would want to come here with the level of coaching .

Without Ben Johnson we are doomed. As more people tune out Kraft might be forced to make decisions.

Well said I feel the same way we can just hope Maye doesn't get hurt. This miserable season can't get over soon enough. Really hope the Colts tear us a new one which will remind the Krafts how far we are.

 

[Real fan 02]

When you're ranked 32nd in almost every category beginning with Coaching: you won't be respected. When we acquire competence which Mayo doesn't have things will change.

Put this season in the dump where it belongs brother. I'm already on to 2025 FA.. we are stuck with this coaching staff at least another season

 

[Real fan 02]

He's a backup Rotation DL.

 

[Patsfan1645]

The tackles are not NFL capable which is why they are jumping.

Now, what I am about to say is going to make people crazy. The refs took a damn microscope to the Patriots OL while the Phins OL was getting away with much worse.

Was Lowe moving too quickly pre-snap? Yes... like almost all OTs seem to do these days. The Phins OT was even worse.

As for the holding calls that were blowing up 20+ yd gains, the ref was out of his mind. And it as always one particular ref making the blown calls.

Lowe didn't hold, the player fell. Onwenu didn't hold, the player fell. Rewatch those plays, there was no holding. If you wanted to see holding, just have a look at what the Dolphins OL was doing.

That offensive pass interference on Boutte says it all. Defender stiff arms Boutte 10 yards downfield (a clear penalty), then Boutte knocks his arms away, and gets called for an OPI. If Boutte doesn't fall there, that could have gone for 7 points as the defender was on his butt.

I don't disagree with you. The Chiefs LT jumps early every play and is rarely called for it, but when has there ever been consistency across the league with regards to penalties. I don't think they committed all the penalties they got flagged for but like the offsides by HH , wtf???? He was looking down the line and was on the defensive side of the ball...unacceptable. Its the body of work that I'm looking at, we have 81penalties (18FS, 16OH) so far this year and had all of 89 last year. At the current rate we will end up with 114 for the season. Poorly coached/lacking talent is the big factor...it aint all on the refs.

 

[sb1]

Honestly surprised we're not leading the league in False Start penalties. Not too far off though.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

OL is the only major hole. Every other hole is a minor one.

lol wide receiver?

 

[Love The Drake]

The players laughing and smiling shouldn’t be back next season.

 

[archstanton543]

The tackles are not NFL capable which is why they are jumping.

Now, what I am about to say is going to make people crazy. The refs took a damn microscope to the Patriots OL while the Phins OL was getting away with much worse.

Was Lowe moving too quickly pre-snap? Yes... like almost all OTs seem to do these days. The Phins OT was even worse.

As for the holding calls that were blowing up 20+ yd gains, the ref was out of his mind. And it as always one particular ref making the blown calls.

Lowe didn't hold, the player fell. Onwenu didn't hold, the player fell. Rewatch those plays, there was no holding. If you wanted to see holding, just have a look at what the Dolphins OL was doing.

That offensive pass interference on Boutte says it all. Defender stiff arms Boutte 10 yards downfield (a clear penalty), then Boutte knocks his arms away, and gets called for an OPI. If Boutte doesn't fall there, that could have gone for 7 points as the defender was on his butt.

I'm replying to this just to highlight it. I usually don't complain about the refs all that much but that "performance" by them yesterday was ridiculous.

 

[archstanton543]

One Positive is our Draft position in the First Round is getting better and better. IF we finish number one or two hopefully: it should tell the Krafts that their current HC is worse than his predecessor.

Not really. Draft position relies on other teams. If you have two teams that go 0-17, who's the worst team?

 

[archstanton543]

I don't disagree with you. The Chiefs LT jumps early every play and is rarely called for it, but when has there ever been consistency across the league with regards to penalties. I don't think they committed all the penalties they got flagged for but like the offsides by HH , wtf???? He was looking down the line and was on the defensive side of the ball...unacceptable. Its the body of work that I'm looking at, we have 81penalties (18FS, 16OH) so far this year and had all of 89 last year. At the current rate we will end up with 114 for the season. Poorly coached/lacking talent is the big factor...it aint all on the refs.

The was Hooper.

 

[Real fan 02]

The players laughing and smiling shouldn’t be back next season.

Then that is the entire team except drake.

 

[Ross12]

The players laughing and smiling shouldn’t be back next season.

What happens when it's most of the locker room? From Bedard:

“But the vibe in the Patriots' postgame locker room was ... interesting. Been trying to come up with the right word for it. I think I've settled on unbothered. I've been in a bunch of different NFL locker rooms over the years, including several on the other side when the Dolphins weren't so hot post-Dan Marino. And in most, if you laid an egg like that (they trailed 31-0 at one point) against a divisional opponent — especially one that entered with a 4-6 record — you'd pretty much expect everyone to be miserable, irritable and not a whole lot of fun to talk to. I can almost guarantee you Jason Taylor probably would have stared daggers at me for asking a question, if not made me look like a fool with his response (hey, it's a long and illustrious career).

It wasn't that way in the Patriots' locker room after the game. Guys were affable and insightful. There were even smiles and some jokes. There was no tension in the air, where you feel like you need to walk on eggshells. There was no whiff of players being pissed off or embarrassed, which made the rank-and-file the complete opposite of fans at home and on social media, who were venting hot and heavy after this one.“

 

[Mike the Brit]

The tackles are not NFL capable which is why they are jumping.

Now, what I am about to say is going to make people crazy. The refs took a damn microscope to the Patriots OL while the Phins OL was getting away with much worse.

Was Lowe moving too quickly pre-snap? Yes... like almost all OTs seem to do these days. The Phins OT was even worse.

As for the holding calls that were blowing up 20+ yd gains, the ref was out of his mind. And it as always one particular ref making the blown calls.

Lowe didn't hold, the player fell. Onwenu didn't hold, the player fell. Rewatch those plays, there was no holding. If you wanted to see holding, just have a look at what the Dolphins OL was doing.

That offensive pass interference on Boutte says it all. Defender stiff arms Boutte 10 yards downfield (a clear penalty), then Boutte knocks his arms away, and gets called for an OPI. If Boutte doesn't fall there, that could have gone for 7 points as the defender was on his butt.

Absolutely. Thank you for that!

And add the one really GOOD decision Mayo made: to challenge the pass to Waddle. If that wasn't the ground giving the player control of the ball, I don't know if I've ever seen it. Even Steratore, the NFL shill commenting on the refereeing, found it hard to defend.

 

[archstanton543]

Absolutely. Thank you for that!

And add the one really GOOD decision Mayo made: to challenge the pass to Waddle. If that wasn't the ground giving the player control of the ball, I don't know if I've ever seen it. Even Steratore, the NFL shill commenting on the refereeing, found it hard to defend.

The call was ridiculous but challenging there gives the Phins a 1st down either way.

 

[Ross12]

Apparently, Jerod had them practicing last week without pads because "the Dolphins are very fast" so they needed to "lighten the load" to keep up.

Apparently Jerod didn't think about the fact that they needed to PUT THE PADS BACK ON when the game came around, and practicing with the pads off wasn't really going to do anything to help. It would only get them used to playing without pads on.

Is this guy an idiot?

 

[Real fan 02]

Apparently, Jerod had them practicing last week without pads because "the Dolphins are very fast" so they needed to "lighten the load" to keep up.

Apparently Jerod didn't think about the fact that they needed to PUT THE PADS BACK ON when the game came around, and practicing with the pads off wasn't really going to do anything to help. It would only get them used to playing without pads on.

Is this guy an idiot?

They suck with or without pads on..

 

[sb1]

Apparently, Jerod had them practicing last week without pads because "the Dolphins are very fast" so they needed to "lighten the load" to keep up.

Apparently Jerod didn't think about the fact that they needed to PUT THE PADS BACK ON when the game came around, and practicing with the pads off wasn't really going to do anything to help. It would only get them used to playing without pads on.

Is this guy an idiot?

We shouldn’t be too hard on Mayo. There’s only so much he can do or something.

 

[sb1]

What happens when it's most of the locker room? From Bedard:

“But the vibe in the Patriots' postgame locker room was ... interesting. Been trying to come up with the right word for it. I think I've settled on unbothered. I've been in a bunch of different NFL locker rooms over the years, including several on the other side when the Dolphins weren't so hot post-Dan Marino. And in most, if you laid an egg like that (they trailed 31-0 at one point) against a divisional opponent — especially one that entered with a 4-6 record — you'd pretty much expect everyone to be miserable, irritable and not a whole lot of fun to talk to. I can almost guarantee you Jason Taylor probably would have stared daggers at me for asking a question, if not made me look like a fool with his response (hey, it's a long and illustrious career).

It wasn't that way in the Patriots' locker room after the game. Guys were affable and insightful. There were even smiles and some jokes. There was no tension in the air, where you feel like you need to walk on eggshells. There was no whiff of players being pissed off or embarrassed, which made the rank-and-file the complete opposite of fans at home and on social media, who were venting hot and heavy after this one.“

Bikes and basketball hoops in the locker room baby!

 

[Love The Drake]

He needs to go, they are unorganized, weak, sloppy, undisciplined, uncaring.
We need to reboot with only Maye, Barmore, and Gonzalez.