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2014 Draft Prospect Thread

Holy Tavon Austin. Don't know if he can catch the ball or not, but he looks very similar. Been hearing some really positive buzz about Matthews from Cornell. This QB class is LOADED. Not quite Luck/Griffin good, but they'll be more 1st round QBs then in recent memory.

Can see him in a sort of Woodhead role - screens and draws.
 
This guy's an interesting beneath the radar type:

Ethan Westbrooks, DE, West Texas A&M

According to the commentary he's 6'4", 276 lbs. He puts me in mind of Datone Jones when I watch him. Outstanding speed of the OL and some nice athleticism in the offensive backfield. Not sure he'd be an every down DE but like him as a later round pick as an interior rusher on passing downs.

Ethan Westbrooks "DE" vs Winston Salem State 2012 - YouTube


West Texas A&M junior defensive lineman Ethan Westbrooks was named the Ron Lenz Daktronics Division II Defensive Player of the Year, an award given by the Collegiate Sports Information Directors of America.

Westbrooks, a native of San Leandro, Calif., transfered to WT from Sacramento City Community College. In his first season for the Buffaloes, Westbrooks recorded a school-record 19.5 sacks and had 28 tackles for loss.

http://amarillo.com/sports/wt-sports/2012-12-11/westbrooks-named-top-defensive-player
 
One more.

I've not seen Aaron Lynch before. All I can say is is wow!! The below is as impressive a performance as I've seen in the 2-3 years I've been watching CFB with the draft in mind. Don't know anything about his character but his combo of speed, strength and, most importantly, length is about as BB ideal as is possible.

Aaron Lynch vs Michigan State 2011 - YouTube

Interestingly, in this article, he's down in the 240lb range. That's not so ideal. Get him back up in the 260's and put him opposite Chandler Jones and we could have a dominating DL.

Taggart very excited about the maturation of Aaron Lynch - CBSSports.com


Q: I noticed you guys list him at 244 (pounds). Did he lose a lot of weight when he got there?

Taggart. Yes, he did. He played at 270 at ND. In the year that he had off, he wasn't really motivated to do anything, from what I was told and heard from everyone. He'd tell you that he wasn't really locked in, knowing that he couldn't play. Now, doing what he's doing and hearing some of that noise about how he can be this or be that, he's really taking pride in trying to be the best football player he can be.

Q: Do you want to see him back up in the 260s?

Taggart: I'd like him in the 250-260 range. He's well put together. When he walked in the door the first time I saw him, I was like, 'Wow!' Without even watching him on film, you could see what everybody's talking about. Then you watch him on film -- Jeez!

He's built like Jevon Kearse. He's long and lean and athletic but he can put on the weight. In the spring he actually played at like 235. I think he's at 245 now.
 
I've not seen Aaron Lynch before. All I can say is is wow!! The below is as impressive a performance as I've seen in the 2-3 years I've been watching CFB with the draft in mind. Don't know anything about his character but his combo of speed, strength and, most importantly, length is about as BB ideal as is possible.

Amen Brother. Remember Aldon Smith as a prospect? Had those long arms, the powerful hands, the bend, and movement skills... really exciting stuff. But there were questions about his ability to hold up at the POA.

It may be just me but Aaron Lynch looks a lot like Smith did at Mizzou. The brutally strong hands and the length. Difference is... he's stronger. Right now I'm keeping score in a very informal way, but fwiw I see him as the clear cut #2 defensive player after "that guy from South Carolina".

As for Westbrooks, nice find. I'm gonna add him to my list for the fall.
 
Amen Brother. Remember Aldon Smith as a prospect? Had those long arms, the powerful hands, the bend, and movement skills... really exciting stuff. But there were questions about his ability to hold up at the POA.

It may be just me but Aaron Lynch looks a lot like Smith did at Mizzou. The brutally strong hands and the length. Difference is... he's stronger. Right now I'm keeping score in a very informal way, but fwiw I see him as the clear cut #2 defensive player after "that guy from South Carolina".

As for Westbrooks, nice find. I'm gonna add him to my list for the fall.

I didn't want to say it because it'll be sacrilege to compare anyone to Clowney this year, but specifically from a Patriots perspective, I don't see Lynch being that far behind Clowney with that length. Those arms!!

As for his strength, absolutely. At first, I was thinking 'outstanding 5-tech' until I checked his weight. He's my favourite prospect right now. Some potentially outstanding pass rushers this year, compares well to 2011.
 
I didn't want to say it because it'll be sacrilege to compare anyone to Clowney this year, but specifically from a Patriots perspective, I don't see Lynch being that far behind Clowney with that length. Those arms!!

As for his strength, absolutely. At first, I was thinking 'outstanding 5-tech' until I checked his weight. He's my favourite prospect right now. Some potentially outstanding pass rushers this year, compares well to 2011.

I would put Anthony Barr ahead of him just because of how raw Barr is and how much potential he could have. Guy was a monster after having played the position for just one year. I really think it's going to be interesting to see how someone of these 3 headed monsters turn out.

Clowney-Barr-Lynch as pass rushers.
Lewan-Matthews-Cyrus K. as LTs.
Manziel-Boyd-Fales as the 2nd QB.
Roby-Purifoy-IEO as CBs.
 
I would put Anthony Barr ahead of him just because of how raw Barr is and how much potential he could have. Guy was a monster after having played the position for just one year. I really think it's going to be interesting to see how someone of these 3 headed monsters turn out.

Looking ahead, of that group of prospects, I'd expect Boyd, Purifoy, and Ekpre Olumu to fall out at some point.

Boyd won't last once the real scrutiny begins. He's awful at throwing down the field, but he's not particularly accurate either, and he doesn't have pocket presence. Total project and there's more interesting guys who will emerge.

I haven't seen much Ekpre Olumu, but he sounds like he has box score ballhawk written all over him. There's a couple every season who hang out at the top of the media rankings until people actually watch the games. If the interceptions stop coming will he still be highly regarded?

As for Purifoy, his standing in the media seems largely based on his physical talent and not his play. I was never impressed by him. He has the potential for sure, but if he doesn't make the leap everyone seems to assume he will on the field, his stock will take a big hit. That said, what I love about Purifoy's floor is that he has "football player" potential - he's an absolute animal on special teams, can be used as a blitzer, a wildcat quarterback, or even as a wideout. When someone is that athletic and that physical, you'll find a way to use them.
 
As for Purifoy, his standing in the media seems largely based on his physical talent and not his play. I was never impressed by him. He has the potential for sure, but if he doesn't make the leap everyone seems to assume he will on the field, his stock will take a big hit. That said, what I love about Purifoy's floor is that he has "football player" potential - he's an absolute animal on special teams, can be used as a blitzer, a wildcat quarterback, or even as a wideout. When someone is that athletic and that physical, you'll find a way to use them.

That sounds like a guy the Pats draft in rounds 5-7, not 1-2. . . .
 
Looking ahead, of that group of prospects, I'd expect Boyd, Purifoy, and Ekpre Olumu to fall out at some point.

Boyd won't last once the real scrutiny begins. He's awful at throwing down the field, but he's not particularly accurate either, and he doesn't have pocket presence. Total project and there's more interesting guys who will emerge.

I haven't seen much Ekpre Olumu, but he sounds like he has box score ballhawk written all over him. There's a couple every season who hang out at the top of the media rankings until people actually watch the games. If the interceptions stop coming will he still be highly regarded?

As for Purifoy, his standing in the media seems largely based on his physical talent and not his play. I was never impressed by him. He has the potential for sure, but if he doesn't make the leap everyone seems to assume he will on the field, his stock will take a big hit. That said, what I love about Purifoy's floor is that he has "football player" potential - he's an absolute animal on special teams, can be used as a blitzer, a wildcat quarterback, or even as a wideout. When someone is that athletic and that physical, you'll find a way to use them.

With guys like Ekpre Olumu, and any corner 5'10 or shorter, when I watch, the biggest thing I'm looking for is do they have the ability to prevent completions on plays where the receiver is in between the cornerback and the quarterback. For example, covering a hitch route, if you are unable to jump the route, how do you plan on breaking up the pass? If you are a 5'10 corner against a 6'3 receiver, your arms are shorter than that of the receiver and if you can jump the route, no matter how close you are to the ball, the receiver is closer than you. Being behind a receiver with longer arms than you is a tough matchup, no matter how close you are to him. You can't straight up deflect the pass, since it will touch his hands first. So how do you prevent the catch, in a scenario inevitable for all corners? It's not easy. The first thing that most successful 5'10 corners do is hit the receiver within about .01 seconds of him touching the ball. The timing must be nothing short of impeccable, and it's not something you can teach. You then wrap your arms around receiver, try to rip his arms apart, but also tackle him, whether or not you think you broke up the pass, just so that in the worst case scenario it's only a 6 yard gain.

Jason Verrett is perfect about this. So is Ronde Barber, Antoine Winfield, and Brandon Flowers. Ekpre-Olumu hasn't shown me he can do this. If he yields inside position, the only way he can stop the route is by jumping it. And that's why he is overrated
 
With guys like Ekpre Olumu, and any corner 5'10 or shorter, when I watch, the biggest thing I'm looking for is do they have the ability to prevent completions on plays where the receiver is in between the cornerback and the quarterback. For example, covering a hitch route, if you are unable to jump the route, how do you plan on breaking up the pass? If you are a 5'10 corner against a 6'3 receiver, your arms are shorter than that of the receiver and if you can jump the route, no matter how close you are to the ball, the receiver is closer than you. Being behind a receiver with longer arms than you is a tough matchup, no matter how close you are to him. You can't straight up deflect the pass, since it will touch his hands first. So how do you prevent the catch, in a scenario inevitable for all corners? It's not easy. The first thing that most successful 5'10 corners do is hit the receiver within about .01 seconds of him touching the ball. The timing must be nothing short of impeccable, and it's not something you can teach. You then wrap your arms around receiver, try to rip his arms apart, but also tackle him, whether or not you think you broke up the pass, just so that in the worst case scenario it's only a 6 yard gain.

Jason Verrett is perfect about this. So is Ronde Barber, Antoine Winfield, and Brandon Flowers. Ekpre-Olumu hasn't shown me he can do this. If he yields inside position, the only way he can stop the route is by jumping it. And that's why he is overrated

I agree that IEO probably falls out of contention. Too many times CBs get hyped pre-season because of interceptions and pass deflections. Most Oregon people I talk to say that Mitchell is the better player. Same with Florida guys saying Roberson is better than Purifoy. If Purifoy is so spectacular as a corner, why are they asking him to be a WR this year? That indicates to me that he's probably not as great of a corner as everyone seems to think.
 
With guys like Ekpre Olumu, and any corner 5'10 or shorter, when I watch, the biggest thing I'm looking for is do they have the ability to prevent completions on plays where the receiver is in between the cornerback and the quarterback. For example, covering a hitch route, if you are unable to jump the route, how do you plan on breaking up the pass? If you are a 5'10 corner against a 6'3 receiver, your arms are shorter than that of the receiver and if you can jump the route, no matter how close you are to the ball, the receiver is closer than you. Being behind a receiver with longer arms than you is a tough matchup, no matter how close you are to him. You can't straight up deflect the pass, since it will touch his hands first. So how do you prevent the catch, in a scenario inevitable for all corners? It's not easy. The first thing that most successful 5'10 corners do is hit the receiver within about .01 seconds of him touching the ball. The timing must be nothing short of impeccable, and it's not something you can teach. You then wrap your arms around receiver, try to rip his arms apart, but also tackle him, whether or not you think you broke up the pass, just so that in the worst case scenario it's only a 6 yard gain.

Jason Verrett is perfect about this. So is Ronde Barber, Antoine Winfield, and Brandon Flowers. Ekpre-Olumu hasn't shown me he can do this. If he yields inside position, the only way he can stop the route is by jumping it. And that's why he is overrated

Absolutely exquisitely put, Brother!! :rocker:
 
HaHa Clinton Dix looks pretty good, though I can't stop laughing when I hear his first name
 
C.J. Mosley is insanely good. I've never seen a linebacker with his level of take on skills against the run
 
Aaron Murray doesn't look good. Few mechanical issues, the biggest being that he gets no front knee bend whatsoever in any of his throws. He locks his knee and is basically throwing off one leg
 
Aaron Murray doesn't look good. Few mechanical issues, the biggest being that he gets no front knee bend whatsoever in any of his throws. He locks his knee and is basically throwing off one leg

Seems like an easy fix. As a guy who threw as a pitcher and basebll player his whole life, this just seems unnatural. I couldn't imagine throwing like that and it's going to effect accuracy and arm strength.

Congrats on the ESPN article shout out.
 
Sleeper alert! Jace Amaro sounds awesome.
 
Tajh Boyd doesn't look very good. After releasing the ball, each foot hits the ground once. Obviously, the back foot hits the ground, because as with everyone else, the back foot is in the air when the football is released. However, his body is so unbalanced toward the left that at the time his back foot is on the ground, he looks like the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and must take his front foot off the ground and take a step to the left just to keep from falling down on his follow through
 
4:16 left in the first quarter, Clemson ball, 2nd and 6, Jermauria Rasco got one of the greatest jumps off the ball I've ever seen. He doesn't play a lot, and it showed in what he did after that incredible jump, but he has a ton of quickness and potential based on that play alone
 
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