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Good Afternoon, Ladies and Gents...

I humbly and quietly offer this Thread ~ the 6th of many, as I'll be circumnavigating the entire Roster ~ to my Fellow Patriots Fans ~ KoolAid Soaked Homers + Bile Soaked Haters, alike!! :D ~ as a common reference for Defensive Tackle Prospects.

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Devon Still of Penn State ~ 6.4/310

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Red Flags abound with Devon Still.

First off, he gets poor grades for Launch Velocity.

Second, he gets poor grades for Core Strength + Flexibility.

Third, and most worrisome, he gets dubious grades for Work Ethic.

Devon Still brings Strength, Power, and Athleticism to the table.

And he has been consistently productive at Penn State, peaking in this, his Senior year.

There are still 20 weeks to go before the Draft ~ nearly an half year. So things may very well get clarified and cleared up, between now and then. But there are so many question marks about this kid, at this point, that, based on what I currently have, I'd have to call him a Day Two Prospect, perhaps even a Mid Rounder, a far cry from the Top 20 Market Value he currently boasts!!

OverRated!!

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Brandon Thompson of Clemson ~ 6.2/310

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What stands out about Brandon Thompson, most of all, is his Launch Velocity: All agree that he is consistently Quick out of the gate, and for my money, that is fully half the journey to success at the next level: Not only is Launch Velocity the most vital attribute in determining the Victor in the Battle of the Trenches, but it speaks, as well, to Processing Speed and Diagnostic Acuity, skills which affect every other aspect of the Game.

Furthermore, there's no question about his Work Ethic and his Intelligence: Thompson is not only well known as a fanatical Gym Rat, but he's made the Honor Roll, as well. Between outstanding Intelligence, tremendous Work Ethic, and exceptional Launch Velocity, I've got to say that I am extremely confident in this young man's future.

Mind you: He is far from perfect.

His Mechanics are raw, and his Arms are short.

He commands exceptional Strength, but struggles to bring it to bear consistently.

Even so, Thompson is a Force on the inside, and brings a sufficiently balanced Arsenal of skills to Anchor or to Penetrate, to disrupt the Run or the Pass. His Mechanics are, indeed, raw, so I think he'll have some struggles, initially, but if he gets the right coaching, I can see this guy becoming a Star.

Beast!!

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Alameda Taamu of Washington ~ 6.3/336

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Alameda Taamu brings the complete Nose Tackle package.

He is a gargantuan MASS...yet he boasts very little excess weight, having vanquished previous weight problems.

That isn't fat. That's Core Strength, ladies and gentlemen.

And he boasts excellent Launch Velocity, as well.

Furthermore, he commands exceptional Agility and Fluidity for a man of his immense size.

And he brings an outstanding Work Ethic to the table.

Did I mention the part about the Complete Package??

Mind you: he does have the T Rex Arms...

I believe that Alameda Taamu has the potential to be the Run-Stuffing, Middle-Clogging, surprisingly disruptive Lynch Pin of a Defense ~ probably as a "34" Nose Tackle ~ for at least the next decade...and that he will be.

I place far more importance on Defensive Tackles than most. Indeed, I consider them the second most important position on the entire roster. And I grade Alameda Taamu higher than any D Tackle in the entire Draft. As such, I think that his 1st or 2nd Round Market Value is not only fully warranted, but a screaming, raging bargain.

Super Beast!!

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Josh Chapman of Alabama ~ 6.1/310

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Josh Chapman is far from perfect: He gets flagged for his Conditioning on more than one venerable Site.

And their is also consensus that his Athleticism is wanting.

However, the experts agree that he brings exceptional Core Strength to the position. Conditioning concerns not withstanding, he get stellar grades for his fanatical Work Ethic in the weight room, work that does indeed translate to the Field. And Work Ethic trumps dubious Conditioning, in my book: all he needs is better direction.

Chapman brings excellent Launch Velocity to the table, and combining that with his exceptional Core Strength makes for a brutal, tenacious, mauling Nose Guard who consistently eats up Blocks and undermines plays.

Considering that this is a guy around whom you could confidently build your Defense, his Market Value, which seems to lie around the 2nd or 3rd Round, seems to be a sweet bargain, indeed.

Bargain Beast!!

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Kendell Reyes of Connecticut ~ 6.4/296

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Kendell Reyes commands excellent Launch Velocity, which is half the Battle, right there.

He gets generally good grades for his Core Strength, as well.

The common theme I'm picking up is that this is a guy with excellent Work Ethic and Leadership traits, superior Intelligence, excellent Launch Velocity, commendable Core Strength with the frame to build exceptional Core Strength...and whose current Impact, while intriguing, is considerably less than that of his potential.

And when one runs across such a Prospect, one who gets good grades for Work Ethic, Leadership, and Intelligence...one is inclined to bet on that Prospect's prospects.

Whether as a Nose Guard in a "43" or an End in a "34", Kendell Reyes seems to have an excellent future ahead of him. And with a Market Value floating around the 3rd or 4th Round, I call him an emphatic Bargain.

Bargain Stud Horse!!

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Kheeston Randall of Texas ~ 6.5/305

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Kheeston Randall is miscast as a Defensive Tackle.

At 6.5/305, he is clearly best suited to pay Defensive End, preferably in a "34".

However, years of playing the Leverage Battle with Centers and O Guards has forced this tall Defensive Tackle to choose between failure or dedicating himself to the weight room, in order to forge the Core Strength and Core Flexibility needed to compete...and he has not fallen short.

He gets mixed reviews on Launch Velocity and Agility, and plays with much more consistent productivity versus the Run than against the Pass.

He gets excellent grades, across the board, for Leadership, Work Ethic, Character, and Intelligence.

Assuming he's drafted as an End ~ preferably a 5 Tech ~ he should quickly develop into a Starter, yet a statistically poor Senior year has dropped his Market Value to the 4th or 5th Round range, at least for the present: There aren't many who can play the 5 Tech effectively coming out, so his Stock may very well rebound.

Bargain Stud Horse!!

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Notes

1 ~ Be forewarned: I place immense emphasis on the importance of Defensive Tackles. In fact, I put them only 2nd to Quarter Backs, on the entire 53 man Roster...and my Grades reflect that.

2 ~ I am obviously an HUGE fan of Alameda Taamu. If we can get him to play next to Vince Wilfork in the middle of a "43" D Line for the next few years, I do believe we will DESTROY half the league...I think that move would have more impact on our Championship Quest for the next few years than ANY other player we could possibly draft in this Class, bar NONE.
 
Good roundup. My favorite is Kheeston Randall. I cannot figure out why he's so poorly rated. He's great at stuffing the run, lines up all over the front, and even takes snaps standing up. Looks like a perfect fit in our hybrid defense.

Star Lotulelei is my other favorite if he comes out this year. Star Lotulelei vs Washington - YouTube

I am not a huge Ta'amu fan. He gets overpowered in the run game way too easily, and he seems incapable of changing directions once he hits full speed. Monstrous talent, but not a fit here.

Give me Derek Wolfe in the mid rounds and call it a day.
 
6th in a Series

Good Afternoon, Ladies and Gents...

I humbly and quietly offer this Thread ~ the 6th of many, as I'll be circumnavigating the entire Roster ~ to my Fellow Patriots Fans ~ KoolAid Soaked Homers + Bile Soaked Haters, alike!! :D ~ as a common reference for Defensive Tackle Prospects.


Alameda Taamu of Washington ~ 6.3/336

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Alameda Taamu brings the complete Nose Tackle package.

He is a gargantuan MASS...yet he boasts very little excess weight, having vanquished previous weight problems.

That isn't fat. That's Core Strength, ladies and gentlemen.

And he boasts excellent Launch Velocity, as well.

Furthermore, he commands exceptional Agility and Fluidity for a man of his immense size.

And he brings an outstanding Work Ethic to the table.

Did I mention the part about the Complete Package??

Mind you: he does have the T Rex Arms...

I believe that Alameda Taamu has the potential to be the Run-Stuffing, Middle-Clogging, surprisingly disruptive Lynch Pin of a Defense ~ probably as a "34" Nose Tackle ~ for at least the next decade...and that he will be.

I place far more importance on Defensive Tackles than most. Indeed, I consider them the second most important position on the entire roster. And I grade Alameda Taamu higher than any D Tackle in the entire Draft. As such, I think that his 1st or 2nd Round Market Value is not only fully warranted, but a screaming, raging bargain.

Super Beast!!

Getting him would allow me to convince myself we actually did get Haloti Ngata:D
 
Getting him would allow me to convince myself we actually did get Haloti Ngata:D

All he has to do is change his name from Alameda to Annapolis and BB will snatch him up in the 1st.
 
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Good roundup. My favorite is Kheeston Randall. I cannot figure out why he's so poorly rated. He's great at stuffing the run, lines up all over the front, and even takes snaps standing up. Looks like a perfect fit in our hybrid defense.

Star Lotulelei is my other favorite if he comes out this year. Star Lotulelei vs Washington - YouTube

I am not a huge Ta'amu fan. He gets overpowered in the run game way too easily, and he seems incapable of changing directions once he hits full speed. Monstrous talent, but not a fit here.

Give me Derek Wolfe in the mid rounds and call it a day.

Star Lotulelei!! Great FIND!! :rocker:
 
Malik Jackson, Tennessee is the DT who has most caught my eye this fall.
 
Malik Jackson, Tennessee is the DT who has most caught my eye this fall.

As of right now, I really like him as a backup LE in the 4-3. A lot will depend on what he weighs in at, though. I doubt he played all of this past season at DT at 270 pounds.
 
As of right now, I really like him as a backup LE in the 4-3. A lot will depend on what he weighs in at, though. I doubt he played all of this past season at DT at 270 pounds.

Yeah, he's got some Tuck in him. Poor man's Tuck, to be sure, but a similar player with slightly lesser abilities. Can play LE or slide inside to 3-tech on passing downs. Good midround guy who plays hard despite not having a lot of defensive talent around him.
 
Malik Jackson, Tennessee is the DT who has most caught my eye this fall.

As of right now, I really like him as a backup LE in the 4-3. A lot will depend on what he weighs in at, though. I doubt he played all of this past season at DT at 270 pounds.

Yeah, he's got some Tuck in him. Poor man's Tuck, to be sure, but a similar player with slightly lesser abilities. Can play LE or slide inside to 3-tech on passing downs. Good midround guy who plays hard despite not having a lot of defensive talent around him.

That's FOUR votes for Malik Jackson!! :rocker:

I've got'm listed as a Defensive End, which is why I didn't bring him up, here.

Obviously, he's a Tackle, at Tennessee. The line does get blurry when projecting these guys.

Good Eye, Brother Peach!! :D
 
That's FOUR votes for Malik Jackson!! :rocker:

I've got'm listed as a Defensive End, which is why I didn't bring him up, here.

Obviously, he's a Tackle, at Tennessee. The line does get blurry when projecting these guys.

Good Eye, Brother Peach!! :D

I'm hoping that listed weight from Tenn's site is wrong. He looks closer to 290+ to me on TV. But that's obviously just a guess. I see him more as a 5-technique who can also play DT in a four man front.
 
Malik Jackson, Tennessee is the DT who has most caught my eye this fall.

As of right now, I really like him as a backup LE in the 4-3. A lot will depend on what he weighs in at, though. I doubt he played all of this past season at DT at 270 pounds.

Yeah, he's got some Tuck in him. Poor man's Tuck, to be sure, but a similar player with slightly lesser abilities. Can play LE or slide inside to 3-tech on passing downs. Good midround guy who plays hard despite not having a lot of defensive talent around him.

That's FOUR votes for Malik Jackson!! :rocker:

I've got'm listed as a Defensive End, which is why I didn't bring him up, here.

Obviously, he's a Tackle, at Tennessee. The line does get blurry when projecting these guys.

Good Eye, Brother Peach!! :D

I'm hoping that listed weight from Tenn's site is wrong. He looks closer to 290+ to me on TV. But that's obviously just a guess. I see him more as a 5-technique who can also play DT in a four man front.

Indeed? I'm going the other way: I like him as "43" End.
 
I dont really like any of these guys. Seems the DTs in this draft is a bit weak. We are still drafting a CB and then some jags. Thats it Im afraid.
 
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Malik Jackson, Tennessee is the DT who has most caught my eye this fall.

At 6'4 5/8" I think he'd be a good candidate as the Elephant to finally replace McGinest.. I think that Carter would be a great teacher for him. A lot would depend on his 10 splits..
 
I dont really like any of these guys. Seems the DTs in this draft is a bit weak. We are still drafting a CB and then some jags. Thats it Im afraid.

Thanks for your 2 cents... I'll happily disagree with your claims especially since the Pats have no picks beyond the 4th round right now.
 
Thanks for your 2 cents... I'll happily disagree with your claims especially since the Pats have no picks beyond the 4th round right now.

We can still claim jags in the second and third.
 
I too think this is a weak dt class but my favorite so far is billy winn. I envision him doing everything mike wright has done for us.
 
I too think this is a weak dt class but my favorite so far is billy winn.

I envision him doing everything mike wright has done for us.

Yeah, as do I...

I mean: I LOVE the kid...

But do you really want to spend an High Second Rounder ~ more or less ~ on Mike Wright II??? :confused:

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MIND you...You can make an ARGUMENT...

But it seems to me that we can snag excellent types like that FAR later in the Draft.

Hell, I'd prefer to give Colby WhitLock a call...but that's me. :p
 
Although one can question the talen available. Isnt DT a position where we have multiple young prospects in already? Seems more a question that someone needs to step up to the next level.

Also what about Love, he gets some praise on the board although I´not sold on him. (Looking at you Off the grid) :)
 
Although one can question the talen available. Isnt DT a position where we have multiple young prospects in already? Seems more a question that someone needs to step up to the next level.

Also what about Love, he gets some praise on the board although I´not sold on him. (Looking at you Off the grid) :)

Heh!!

Well, you see, I've got me a GRIZZLY addiction!! :D

More practically, I believe that the best bet you can make on forging Championships is to have ELITE Caliber Grizzlies MAULING the Enemy...and making way for the Back 7!! :rocker:

Love, I LIKE as a Starting D Tackle...

But I LOVE Love as SWING D Tackle, 3rd man in!! :rocker:

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Brace, I still haven't given up on...but I'd much rather develop him as our #4, and see how it goes...than have to DEPEND on'm if Wilfork or Love goes DOWN. :eek:

It's all about maximizing our chances for winning CHAMPIONSHIPS, baby. :cool:

And I believe that one of the BEST ways to do that MIGHT be ~ all decisions are fuzzy until late April!! ~ to draft Alameda Taamu!! :D
 
If the Pats do look for an interior DLman this spring, there is only ONE quality I'm looking for out of him - interior pass rush. We have plenty of young guys right now who can stuff the run, and Gerard Warren type veteran FAs are a dime a dozen.

I'm looking for a guy who can replace Mike Wright, quy who can consistently push the pocket. Just tell me which of these guys who are mentioned can fulfill this task Grid, and he will immediately become my new Binky.
 
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