Here's the timeline
- Gets drafted
- Undergoes surgery almost immediately after
- Team declines to offer the PPA - the one thing we do not know is why the team didn't offer the PPA beyond the basic fact of him getting cut on which should not be that big of a deal - I am thinking because he handles the off season rehab poorly / immaturely
- Finally signs
- Gets put on the NFI
If Jacas had signed earlier
- Gets drafted
- signs deal - gets injury protection immediately
- Team / player decision on the the course of his rehab - He can agree with it or get a second opinion as would be his right based on the standard NFL contract
- He works in conjunction with the team to get healthy
- He avoids the Injury Waiver in his deal. which does not void until 2028
* He should have signed his contract offer as soon as possible *
Jacas would NOT have had ANY protection against injury if he'd signed right away. What's been insinuated is that the Knee waiver was the Pats effort to get the deal done and was offered only recently. You're acting like the Pats offered the Knee Waiver from day 1 of negotiations. That's a stance you can't support.
and how do I know the contract is basically the same at the beginning as it was the day he signed it? The Rookie Pool - Its been slotted for over a year now at that level ... I don't need to tell you this - YOU already know this...
I will die on the hill thinking it is better to get your guys signed early that to let it linger into July / August...
You can die on whatever hill you want. That doesn't make your stance valid.
The simple fact that you have tried to call me out over this stance is mind boggling... It was stupid play by the rookie player/agent and it should be called out when it happens by everyone...
I've called you out on your stance because you've failed to acknowledge numerous facts. Even when you DO acknowledge them, you can't be bothered to take them into consideration. No. It's not a stupid play by a rookie to ensure that he's got protection in his contract against injury other than the one he's recovering from. It's smart business. Jacas' contract now has that protection for any other injury other than his knee.
What should happen is you should acknowledge that every player's situation is different and not equal. You should acknowledge that the differences in the situations between Jacas and Campbell make your attempt to compare them invalid.
But you are such an apologist for everything the players do...
No. I'm a realist who understands both sides. YOU are refusing to see any side but the Team's. Go back and read my posts. No where did I say it was ONLY the team's fault. I posted counters to you claiming it was ONLY Jacas' fault. If you read my posts, I've said numerous times that there is a lot of information we don't know. I've said that to put blame on any one party is erroneous at this time.
So now, Gabe Jackass can't do **** while on the NFI... Instead of perhaps being ready to go for camp by going through a proper rehab after a knee debridement, he's again sitting on his ass falling further behind the rookie class in terms of learning the NFL game, experiencing the speed and power at the NFL level, Working with & developing chemistry with his position group, and even falling further behind in his physical conditioning...
Go on Bruinz - Tell me I am wrong...
Putting Jacas on the ACTIVE/NFI is a formality. Nothing more. It's because he's recovering from a NON-NFL related injury and hasn't passed his conditioning run.
I'm not sure what you think the NFI list is, but you thinking that Jacas "can't do s**t" says you're misinformed. There are 3 different designations that a player can get upon entering camp: ACTIVE, ACTIVE/PUP and ACTIVE/NFI. ACTIVE means that he passed his physical and his conditioning run. ACTIVE/PUP means that he was unable to pass the Conditioning run. ACTIVE/NFI means that the Player iis unable to pass the condition run due to a NON-FOOTBALL injury. A non-football injury is any injury that didn't occur during NFL activities.
You're confusing the ACTIVE/NFI with the RESERVE/NFI. The RESERVE/NFI is an in season designations that remove players from the active roster. Those players are the ones who are limited in their activities with the team. The ACTIVE/NFI and ACTIVE/PUP are Training Camp/Pre-season designations. With those designations, players
CAN participate in meetings, do strength and conditioning with the S&C coaches. Watch film with coaches. We've heard, numerous times of player "X", Player "Y" and player "Z" participating in the stretching portions before heading off with the S&C coaches because they were on the Active/PUP or Active/NFI list.
Where do you get that "Jacas didn't go through a proper rehab after the knee debridement"? Feel free to give everyone your link to that information.
If you have an article supporting the claim that Jacas didn't undergo proper rehab, share it.
If you have information that says that Jacas can't participate at all with the team (no meetings, no team building, etc). Share it.
