OT: Supreme Court says Flores vs. NFL should be heard in court, not by arbitrator

Froob said:

You have a lot of faith in the ethics of employers. Sounds nice, but ultimately you gotta put bread on the table.

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I expect them to act in their own enlightened self interest, an expectation which is at the very basis io a market economy. As for "putting food on the table" (I am always amused at this argument in a country in which the "poor people" are nearly all garbage-eating fatsos), the best way to accomplish this is to reap the benefits of a free market. You might want to examine the disml record of command economies down through the ages. They do not work. It is also pathologically absurd for you to offer an argument on behalf of the "poor, hungry professional athletes" in this country. You cannot be serious. For a broader perspective on your argument's deficiencies, you might view a few videos of street life in major cities where the politicians share your bleeding heart concern for the poor and where the solution to the plight of the poor is government "help." Your views may please you, but they bear no meningful connection with the reality of the situation.

1960Pats said:

I'm no law expert but it seems like an employee under contract would have to have some kind of a contractual violation to be fired. I don't think an owner could say that he's firing a player just because he wants to.

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Absent a CBA saying otherwise, you can fire a guy under contract for any reason you want (assuming you don't violate his civil rights) but you have to pay out the contract. This tends to happen to coaches (although they often have contractual offsets in place).

As for firing players, there is a CBA in place which spells out that you don't have to pay the non-guaranteed balance of their contracts.

Thelonious said:

But to see the players as "oppressed workers" and the teams as cruelly exploitive plutocratic enities in a circumstance in which their employess are nearly all multi-millionaires is about as asinine and unreflective a view as I can think of.

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The players are millionaires as long as they have the skills to play football at the highest level.

Triumph said:

The owners/NFL will settle this quietly and make it go away.

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I'm sure the NFL would love to settle this case quickly now that it can't hide it in arbitration. The question is "what does BFlo want in order to settle?" He's earning over 6 million a year with the Vikings and has already banked a ton of money. I have a feeling that he's going to want some very interesting structural changes going forward. It should be fascinating to watch this play out.

Triumph said:

The players are millionaires as long as they have the skills to play football at the highest level.

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Oh, I think they'll be just fine, FAR better off than your average working fella who puts in thirty years and winds up hoping his meager 401k will allow his wife to live a decent light when he kicks off due to the accumulated stress. I think any poetrayal of NFL players as "victims" of the Massa in the Big House is complete horseshit.

"The NFL sees personal devices as off-limits and Flores’ demand as unnecessary overreach."

All of New England right now:

Thelonious said:

Oh, I think they'll be just fine, FAR better off than your average working fella who puts in thirty years and winds up hoping his meager 401k will allow his wife to live a decent light when he kicks off due to the accumulated stress. I think any poetrayal of NFL players as "victims" of the Massa in the Big House is complete horseshit.

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You continue to post the most domesticated **** I've ever read in my life lmao.

Vindicate said:

You continue to post the most domesticated **** I've ever read in my life lmao.

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Rather than "laughing your ass off," you might buy a dictionary and use it. You can begin by looking up "domesticated." If you disagree with me, have an adult type something up for you,and we can talk.