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Player Signing Romeo Doubs Signs

I did answer the question. Hew giving you the same production as boutte for over 4 times the price.

Also he failed to reach even 50 yards in half his games last year.

But sure. More volume makes him a number 1.
He isn't being paid like a no1 WR so why is he a WR1? The GB system supposedly is about spreading the ball around and he was their leading WR last year plus he is more expensive because he isn't on a rookie contract. Boutte will be a lot more expensive in a couple of years
 
Heck no, we should be trading our excess picks for 2027 pick. Turn one of our 4ths into a 2027 3rd. And try getting a couple 5ths out of our 6ths.
I agree. Trade our 2026 picks for 2027 picks. But don't trade our 2027 picks. We are saying the same thing, but it appears as though you think we are disagreeing.
 
Here's an interesting stat for the cult.
JSN had 4 catches for 27 yds in the SB.
Seattle won.
Did Seattle need a legit #1 to beat us, and did JSN play a big role in the SB victory?
Interested to hear the cult explain this one.

Sometimes the job of the #1 is to take up all the oxygen in the room. Not saying he was doubled every play but he certainly wasn't left on an island. And hand it to our D for playing sensational against him.

The idea we don't need a #1 is a Brady mindset imo. We need to play with the expectation Maye can't make magic out of beans vs top talent in the playoffs, cause he had a hard time. And it wasn't just the o line. Too often windows were too tight or he had to search too hard to find a guy. It is easy to say find the open WR when you aren't the guy who needs to do it. When you have a #1 it simplifies your reads. That is just as important as any other part that shows up in a stat sheet, particularly if you aren't a Brady or close to prime Mahomes behind a crazy good oline, a great scheme/play all and personnel designed to create space to make your life easier.

I am tired of the idea we are above needing that kind of player, particularly after that offensive playoff run we just had. Clearly the fide if the ball needs to be addressed massively. And even when mate had time it didn't look great. So let's make things easier on him.
 
Is AJ Brown still a deep threat or has he lost that top level speed?
 
Sometimes the job of the #1 is to take up all the oxygen in the room. Not saying he was doubled every play but he certainly wasn't left on an island. And hand it to our D for playing sensational against him.

The idea we don't need a #1 is a Brady mindset imo. We need to play with the expectation Maye can't make magic out of beans vs top talent in the playoffs, cause he had a hard time. And it wasn't just the o line. Too often windows were too tight or he had to search too hard to find a guy. It is easy to say find the open WR when you aren't the guy who needs to do it. When you have a #1 it simplifies your reads. That is just as important as any other part that shows up in a stat sheet, particularly if you aren't a Brady or close to prime Mahomes behind a crazy good oline, a great scheme/play all and personnel designed to create space to make your life easier.

I am tired of the idea we are above needing that kind of player, particularly after that offensive playoff run we just had. Clearly the fide if the ball needs to be addressed massively. And even when mate had time it didn't look great. So let's make things easier on him.
Gronk...like player at the 31st pick. Is that TE out there?
 
Sorry if someone already made this point, I fell behind reading the thread.

Doubs signing, even if you still want Brown, is a great signing. Takes away a ton of leverage Philly had in negotiating a price for Brown.

I’ve been very happy with our signings in what has otherwise been a nutty market
 
Sorry if someone already made this point, I fell behind reading the thread.

Doubs signing, even if you still want Brown, is a great signing. Takes away a ton of leverage Philly had in negotiating a price for Brown.

I’ve been very happy with our signings in what has otherwise been a nutty market
I agree with you regarding the signings, but there will always be moaners, and they tend to be the same so called fans
 
I can see why people have concerns but there are lots of positives. The main gripe seems to be he isn't a WR1, the cost and we supposedly have similar already in the room. The positives are decent though. Good hands, good route runner, creates a lot of separation and has been top 5 for that 2years in a row, GB fans mostly really like him and are sad to see him go and he was their leading WR last year in a system that promotes sharing the ball between everyone.
I think cost wise he is about right and given the loss of Diggs the move makes sense to me for around 10m less and no impending court case.
 
I agree. Trade our 2026 picks for 2027 picks. But don't trade our 2027 picks. We are saying the same thing, but it appears as though you think we are disagreeing.
Yep, my post was a bit confusing. I’m in complete agreement with you.
 
I was comparing their stats. Not their contracts.
But you have compared their contracts. You keep bringing up how much more Doubs is getting paid than Boutte for similar production.

Well, considering that Ja'Marr Chase had a cap hit last season roughly 23 times that of Boutte, it's actually a disappointment he didn't finish with 750 catches, 12,500 yards and 140 TDs.
 
But you have compared their contracts. You keep bringing up how much more Doubs is getting paid than Boutte for similar production.

Well, considering that Ja'Marr Chase had a cap hit last season roughly 23 times that of Boutte, it's actually a disappointment he didn't finish with 750 catches, 12,500 yards and 140 TDs.

The contract is simply to compare the stats.

If Doubs is a number 2 then by virtue of their stats so is Boutte.


If you think Boutte is a number 2 then you're not being realistic.

You think Boutte is worth 17 mil a year?

I bet even here where all the homers make their ridiculous and outrageous claims you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wants to give Boutte that amount if money.

Doubs is a better player. He can do more underneath stuff than Boutte. And yet they are comparable in yards and TDs and if Boutte doesn't miss a month if the season they probably compare in catches too.

Im not even going to entertain whatever point you think you're making with Chase. That's silly.
 
That’s so disingenuous.

Sure last year was his worst year.

But Higgins already had multiple 1000 yds season

2020: 67 - 908 yds as a rookie
2021: 74 - 1091 yds
2022: 74 - 1029 yds
2023: 42 - 656 yds in 12 games. Pace for 59 - 929 yds.
2024: 73 - 911 yds in 12 games. Pace for 103 - 1290 yds
2025: 59 - 846 yds missing two games.

Doubs and Higgins aren’t remotely the same players.
And they aren’t being paid like the same player. Why can’t people understand this?
Doubs 17 per
Higgins 28.75
11.75m more per.
Doubs contract is market value for him.
 
The contract is simply to compare the stats.

If Doubs is a number 2 then by virtue of their stats so is Boutte.


If you think Boutte is a number 2 then you're not being realistic.

You think Boutte is worth 17 mil a year?

I bet even here where all the homers make their ridiculous and outrageous claims you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wants to give Boutte that amount if money.

Doubs is a better player. He can do more underneath stuff than Boutte. And yet they are comparable in yards and TDs and if Boutte doesn't miss a month if the season they probably compare in catches too.

Im not even going to entertain whatever point you think you're making with Chase. That's silly.
But what I "want" to give a player has nothing to do with the market.

Do you truly WANT to give Christian Gonzalez $35 million/year this offseason? Are you counting the days until we can give Drake Maye $60-65/year? Of course not. But the alternative is trade them or let them walk.

You have to give examples of how Doubs is overpaid for when he signs the contract. It has nothing to do with the stats of someone already under contract. Alec Pierce is the highest paid free agent WR in history. Is he anything close to the best free agent WR in history?
 
But what I "want" to give a player has nothing to do with the market.

Do you truly WANT to give Christian Gonzalez $35 million/year this offseason? Are you counting the days until we can give Drake Maye $60-65/year? Of course not. But the alternative is trade them or let them walk.

You have to give examples of how Doubs is overpaid for when he signs the contract. It has nothing to do with the stats of someone already under contract. Alec Pierce is the highest paid free agent WR in history. Is he anything close to the best free agent WR in history?

The point is lost on you. If you can't see that you don't need to pay Doubs 17 mil to do what Boutte is already doing then I can't help you. It's redundancy.

Of course that's not your point is it. You likely believe that by being the clear number 1 here that he will reach the 100 catches and 1000 yards and 8 TDs.

At which point his contract will be fantastic.

But if he's coming in here at 6 TDs and 50 catches for 600 yards then you didn't need to get him. We have a bunch of guys who could theoretically already do that.

None of this matters when they get AJ. It's clear to me that he was signed to be the number 2 behind AJ and the pats are laying all their eggs in that basket.
 
And they aren’t being paid like the same player. Why can’t people understand this?
Doubs 17 per
Higgins 28.75
11.75m more per.
Doubs contract is market value for him.
I don’t disagree. 17m is the new 5M receiver. When you realize that Edelman never made more that 7.75M/y in his career.

but your precedent post insinuates that people were ok to sign Higgins for 28M for 850 yds but don’t want to pay 17M for a 700 yds receiver. Which wasn’t the case.

People wanted Higgins last year and were ok to pay him that amount because he had multiple 1000yds seasons and he was coming out of a season where he was on pace for 1300 yds.
 
The point is lost on you. If you can't see that you don't need to pay Doubs 17 mil to do what Boutte is already doing then I can't help you. It's redundancy.
Isn't he being brought in to do what Diggs did but for 10 million less?
 
The point is lost on you. If you can't see that you don't need to pay Doubs 17 mil to do what Boutte is already doing then I can't help you. It's redundancy.

Of course that's not your point is it. You likely believe that by being the clear number 1 here that he will reach the 100 catches and 1000 yards and 8 TDs.

At which point his contract will be fantastic.

But if he's coming in here at 6 TDs and 50 catches for 600 yards then you didn't need to get him. We have a bunch of guys who could theoretically already do that.

None of this matters when they get AJ. It's clear to me that he was signed to be the number 2 behind AJ and the pats are laying all their eggs in that basket.
But Boutte and Doubs aren't the exact same player being asked to do the exact same thing. It isn't like we can't get them both on the field at the same time.

If we're talking about redundancy, we should have given a big contract extension to Edleman when Welker left instead of signing Danny Amendola, they were such similar players. But I fail to see how losing Welker, giving that money to Edleman and NOT having Amendola would have made us a better team going forward.
 
I don’t disagree. 17m is the new 5M receiver. When you realize that Edelman never made more that 7.75M/y in his career.

but your precedent post insinuates that people were ok to sign Higgins for 28M for 850 yds but don’t want to pay 17M for a 700 yds receiver. Which wasn’t the case.

People wanted Higgins last year and were ok to pay him that amount because he had multiple 1000yds seasons and he was coming out of a season where he was on pace for 1300 yds.
Yes, I understand the thinking.
He was projected to be a number 1 here.
My main point all along has been Doubs is a #2 and is being paid like it.
I posted guys that are in his price, contract wise earlier in this thread.
Kupp; Juedy; Meyers, Wan’dale, Saheed.
I wouldn’t want any of those guys over Doubs.
His contract is the going rate for what he is.
The folks that are saying we paid #1 money for a number 3 WR are very, very ill-informed.
 
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