Dante Scarnecchia on what Mac needs

lancerman said:

Guregian: Dante Scarnecchia says Patriots need to get Mac Jones a binkie

Mac Jones needs a chain mover. A first-down maker. A receiver he can trust in those crucial got-to-have-it moments in games.

www.bostonherald.com

Ignore that the author chose a salacious title. Meat from Dante’s quotes:

“We’ve always had that guy, a guy who moved the chains,” said Scarnecchia. “Whether it was Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Danny Amendola when all else failed, he was that guy. But they don’t have that guy right now.”

“They gotta get a better supporting cast around (Mac),” said Scar. “They don’t want to hear that, but that’s the truth. Other than Jakobi Meyers, who do they got?”

Personally I agree. Mac had a very methodical development and a leash, but if we don’t get WR’s soon we are setting him up to have a low ceiling and to fail. No defense respected our passing game this year and it showed.

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Kontradiction said:

We had two opportunities to pick that guy in the 4th and decided to burn picks on Froholdt and Stidham. Then had chances to trade up into the 5th and grab him. Hunter Renfrow. He was tailor-made for this offense but the Patriots just didn’t see it for whatever reason, even though it was obvious at that point that Edelman was on the back nine.

But yes, I agree with Dante. We don’t have that quick twitch, violent cut, surgeon of a route runner. It’s not Bourne or Meyers.

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Tunescribe said:

That was not a bad throw, nine times out of 10 it's caught for a touchdown or tipped away by the defender (it had to be "lofted" to get there on that route). It's been suggested that Hyde simply was trying to get a hand on it to prevent the reception and lucked into actually hauling it in, his catch was unreal. Sure, a perfect throw would've been 6 inches further but it's hard to fault Mac. What's questionable is the choice of that play at that time when the offense was gaining momentum working its way down the field.

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lancerman said:

This is what people don't understand. There is a difference between a not perfect throw and a bad throw.

Nobody makes only perfect throws all game. Also that was a deep ball low percentage throw anyways. Unless you are Rodgers who for some reason's entire skill set is making that type of throw consistently, you are going to be perfect a lot less on that. Mac didn't make a bad throw. It was intercepted primarily because Micah Hyde made an incredible play. It's like the Butler interception in SB 49. It's not a perfect throw, but it's a through that should have been caught but an amazing play took advantage of it being not perfect by a few degrees. Only in Mac's case that was a throw that is rarely going to be perfect anyways. Brady could make that throw 100 times, over 70 won't be perfect.

That interception is not Mac. It's not realistic to expect that specific type of throw to be consistently much better than what we got. Micah Hyde isn't in tight coverage and making an amazing play and it's stilla TD most of the time. Sometimes you gotta just give the other guy credit.

I do agree the play itself is weird in that situation.

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lancerman said:

Guregian: Dante Scarnecchia says Patriots need to get Mac Jones a binkie

Mac Jones needs a chain mover. A first-down maker. A receiver he can trust in those crucial got-to-have-it moments in games.

www.bostonherald.com

Ignore that the author chose a salacious title. Meat from Dante’s quotes:

“We’ve always had that guy, a guy who moved the chains,” said Scarnecchia. “Whether it was Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Danny Amendola when all else failed, he was that guy. But they don’t have that guy right now.”

“They gotta get a better supporting cast around (Mac),” said Scar. “They don’t want to hear that, but that’s the truth. Other than Jakobi Meyers, who do they got?”

Personally I agree. Mac had a very methodical development and a leash, but if we don’t get WR’s soon we are setting him up to have a low ceiling and to fail. No defense respected our passing game this year and it showed.

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lancerman said:

They don't grow on trees, but you do in fact need marquee receivers on your team. Even if it's an Edelman or Lockett or Anquan Boldin type dude. Right now our best would struggle to make a lot of teams.

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Fubby said:

So it sounds like all we need is a defensive overhaul and injection of skill players on offense. Other than that, all good. Don’t have high hopes for next season either…

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‘Mondre said:

No. No.

Every mistake by every player in any year is a learning opportunity. He ain't different.

You don't get to baby the quarterback. He made a mistake at a CRUCIAL point in the game, in an area that folks have REPEATEDLY pointed out he's deficient in. That's not misreading a defense. It's not making some social media gaffe with a new spotlight on you. That's not failing to practice or condition accordingly.

It was 7-0, on FIRST AND 10...

We make that, they say oh **** the pats are slinging it. We miss it, its 2nd and ten nearly halfway down the field and we just threw it deep and somebody on the bills sideline takes note of that play and that we're changing it up from the last time we beat them.

How often does bb preach about situations? If it's 3rd and 12 in the third quarter or something... and we're down two or three scores... sure, throw it right where you think he can catch it. Our chances of winning are much lower in that situation anyway. But in that situation, you have room to lead him on and fight another play.

It was an underthrown pass. An underthrown pass is an underthrown pass in high school, in the back yard, at alabama.

I'm not saying throw him out. I'm saying he doesn't get to have the general management of the team centered around him and his skillsets, because we don't know if he's that good yet. I'm saying QB is still a developing position that could go either way. I'm saying we have enough at te, and if nothing pops out at wr then let it be. If mac can't make them better, then at the end of next season you keep him and overcompensate for that, or you keep looking at QBs. Trade for Dak or something.

That changed the complexion of the game. Had we answered right back at them and scored, its 7-7, the bills coaches know Mac's good but don't know if he can throw or if BB IS WILLING TO LET HIM THROW (mind you their first matchup he threw 0 times), that's a strategic positioning that affects the game after that.

We set them up to go up 14-0.

Most analysts and folks on this board said... they go up by two scores that's ballgame. And it was. We allowed them to relax and let Allen do his thing.

Situations.

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LFGMac10 said:

So you think that Meyers with 866 yards and Bourne with 800 yards would struggle to be a #2 or 3 on another team? What world do you live in?

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Tunescribe said:

That was not a bad throw, nine times out of 10 it's caught for a touchdown or tipped away by the defender (it had to be "lofted" to get there on that route). It's been suggested that Hyde simply was trying to get a hand on it to prevent the reception and lucked into actually hauling it in, his catch was unreal. Sure, a perfect throw would've been 6 inches further but it's hard to fault Mac. What's questionable is the choice of that play at that time when the offense was gaining momentum working its way down the field.

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skinnydog said:

It did not have to be lofted to get there. Check out Brady’s throw to beat the Jets this year. He threw it about 40 yards on a rope For the game winning TD. The problem was how long Mac’s throw was in the air.

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Marko said:

Agreed, Renfro was so obvious it hurt

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LFGMac10 said:

I know TB12 never threw a crucial interception in a big game.

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One-If-By-Sea said:

Agree that Brady's pass was a rope, but go watch the play again. It was thrown to the outside away from the defender, that is what was most important. If Brady threw that ball to the inside, like Mac did, even on a rope it would not have been completed. Mac's ball was OK, just had to be to the outside, away from the defender like Brady's ball.

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skinnydog said:

Many times, but he could also come back from throwing a pick and lead a big comeback.

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