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PostGame Thread 2026 Official Postgame Thread: Patriots close out preseason w/37-13 loss to the Browns

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Jack Westover seems much improved... I don't get Dippre.
Dippre missed most of camp, he was playing catchup and needed reps.

Westover is 6’3” 243 pounds, Dippre is 6’5” 256 pounds and benched it 32 times at the combine. Dippre is massive, strong and athletic. He’s the prototypical blocking TE.

Neither is a lock, but if they carry a third it will probably be Dippre. They could probably slide both to the PS and call them back up when needed.
 
I just hope that our primary starters stay healthy because as a lot of you have mentioned and obviously Vrabel stated (shockingly at the time) there isn’t a lot of depth behind the starters. We really saw that last night. I do wonder if some of the guys that were playing out there were pissed off because they had to play and they felt that they had a roster spot locked up and other guys got to sit that are also neck and neck with them… So maybe they put in a half assed effort I don’t know. Still not sure what is going to happen with RB3… Jam Miller made it more difficult last night because he was injured and didn’t play……. But hasty and Haskins are what they are, which is pretty average running back material although Haskins really lowered the shoulder a lot last night and made a great play on special teams. Larison had the spotlight directly on him and could’ve really separated himself and didn’t do it last night… So we’ll have to see what the coaching staff decides. I’m not overly optimistic against Seattle who I don’t think I’ve had much changes to their roster with the exception of Walker, since the Super Bowl. Hopefully we can give them a game.
If the staff thinks that happened, those players won’t make the team. And this is a year where I could see 5-10 spots changing before week one which effectively means they could cut much deeper than 53 and may need to. Depth at CB, LB, Edge is really bad.
 
Shows you can't skip a beat against KW because; he'll get a step on you. A Game of inches; Drake Maye should take advantage of that.
Like I said, big KW fan and been consistent on that.

But….

This is the type of play that gets a CB cut, like seriously what was he doing!?

 
I look at the scrimmages as pre-season games
They arent.

The QBs wear red no contact jerseys. The players dont go 100% in scrimmages. Each team is trying to get better vs players unbeknownst to them and escape without injury. The first weeks of the new season is the new preseason. Just watch, offenses will be sputtering and off kilter until they adjust to live action.
 
Two interesting roles last night…

Arkin, the presumed TE3 if there is one, played more of a complementary TE role rather than moving to the top of the TE depth chart. Dippre and Westover split the majority of the single TE snaps, with Arkin coming on the field as either the FB or second TE. That would match more of his projected role.

Saunders played the entire game at safety, with Pettus, Brown, and Manuma all taking turns next to him.
I don't presume that we will carry 3 TE's, especially considering that we have a FB. We could keep three but it doesn't see necessary.

I do see the 4th safety (5th if you count Schooler) as completely open, even we even carry 4. We went through much of last year with Woodson, Hawkins and Pettus. My WAG is that Pettus will make the 53.
 
Dippre missed most of camp, he was playing catchup and needed reps.

Westover is 6’3” 243 pounds, Dippre is 6’5” 256 pounds and benched it 32 times at the combine. Dippre is massive, strong and athletic. He’s the prototypical blocking TE.

Neither is a lock, but if they carry a third it will probably be Dippre. They could probably slide both to the PS and call them back up when needed.
Wozzy I really don't take anything much really from preseason games anymore The joint practices the NFL incorporated years ago has more meaning. It wouldn't make any difference had they gone out and won 30-0.. Vrabel just wants to develop his players especially rookies and unproven guy's. Week 1 on beyond is all that really matters.. the guys have been after it in camp the entire month or more.. fatigue sets in ect. Just my thoughts
 
Posters forget that In 04 he pats went 1-3 in preseason and won the super bowl
I heard the stat on the Dan Patrick show that this century (I think, but it could have been a shorter timeframe), 42 NFL teams have gone undefeated in the preseason.

28 of them (66.7%) MISSED the playoffs entirely.
 
I do wonder if some of the guys that were playing out there were pissed off because they had to play and they felt that they had a roster spot locked up and other guys got to sit that are also neck and neck with them…
If that is the case, I say cut everyone who did that! I don't want anyone on the team who has no heart or feels they are bigger than the team!
 
Yup, I agree. Campbell and Lomu starting, and Bryant and Crownover backing up is a good setup for a few years to come.

I would add Moses and Hudson.

From what I've read Hudson has looked like a solid backup at tackle, though he beyond sucks at guard.

The roster is thin. Bryant is hurt and Lomu/Crownover or for that matter Bryant might not be ready. I think they should stack at tackle, especially with the number of JAGS that will be on this roster.
 
The Good

Matt Haack
Kyle Dixon
Kyle Williams TD (again)

The Bad

Everything else.
I’d add Crownover to the “Good” list as well.

Lomu looked decent.

The D was . No sense of urgency at all. None of these guys looked like they wanted a back up spot on the team.

I think the Pats will be pretty active on cutdown day. We need back up help at DE, DT, LB and CB.
 
It'll be interesting to see in-season whether Williams, once given the chance, can continue to dazzle (but with more than 2 balls to judge by ) We might not get that answer this season, and I'm not rooting for injury just because the kid's exciting.

Looking forward to Doubs and Brown on the field to start the year, with an amazing O-line patched together from a few recognizable names plus the best of the waiver wire...

On the bright side, only three days left in the last month with no football in it...
 
I am going to bring my rationalization brain here and endorse a previous poster's position. Hammer of Thor said, , "clearly they weren’t doing any scheming or any aggressive play calling, and it was ultimately just fundamentals and seeing which players could handle others one on one." So I am climbing back off the ledge. The defense benefits greatly from an attacking style. I didn't see that at all last night. It was disturbing to see almost zero penetration and those back up lineman have received positive support previously. I actually thought the offensive line played okay. There was not a lot of pressure up the middle until late in the game. I thought Hudson was effective at left tackle, Rizy played another game where you didn't hear his name (maybe once). I thought Gainer made a couple plays again, but his playtime always seems late in the game so I don't know how the coaches think of him. He has some speed. Hutchins made a couple plays as did Obiazor. I think we can risk moving Morton to the PS. Time to stop reading those press clippings and get down to business.
 
Well... I thought for sure we would beat the browns in the presseason...

Thats what I get for thinking.
 
I'd like to add that Westover and Crownover sound like neighboring counties in the Shire or Game of Thrones land.
 
I would add Moses and Hudson.

From what I've read Hudson has looked like a solid backup at tackle, though he beyond sucks at guard.

The roster is thin. Bryant is hurt and Lomu/Crownover or for that matter Bryant might not be ready. I think they should stack at tackle, especially with the number of JAGS that will be on this roster.
James Hudson III is not very good sorry.
 
I would add Moses and Hudson.

From what I've read Hudson has looked like a solid backup at tackle, though he beyond sucks at guard.

The roster is thin. Bryant is hurt and Lomu/Crownover or for that matter Bryant might not be ready. I think they should stack at tackle, especially with the number of JAGS that will be on this roster.
Vrabel probably moved Hudson from tackle to guard because he had too many tackles. I doubt Hudson makes it past Sunday.
 
Crazy that there are people here who have followed football closely for decades who think anything that happens in the preseason is embarrassing.
 
Well... I thought for sure we would beat the browns in the presseason...

Thats what I get for thinking.
That was the Browns Super Bowl last night.

Even vs 2nd and 3rd string players and even if its another new season, the Pats represent the 2025 AFC Champion.
 
Crazy that there are people here who have followed football closely for decades who think anything that happens in the preseason is embarrassing.
When Vrabel quips the Pats have no depth, last night was proof.
 

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