Player Signing Patriots Finally Get Gabe Jacas Under Contract

[DoubleDeluxe]

Oh go **** your passive aggressive little self to hell.

pretentious little twatwaffle who just cannot fathom or deal with the fact that not every one agrees with you.

Twatwaffle, I thought I was the only one that used that.
Where did u get that from?
I think I originally heard it in a hockey game, actually think it was the ref calling a player that.

 

[moosekill]

Oh go **** your passive aggressive little self to hell.

pretentious little twatwaffle who just cannot fathom or deal with the fact that not every one agrees with you.

You must be a ton of fun at parties.

 

[Pape]

You must be a ton of fun at parties.

Says the guy named moosekill

 

[Huckleberry1]

when is a player, who is rehabbing, better off training on his own? the answer is never given the potential ramifications... it is always better under the auspices of the team in case the player is re-aggravates the injury...

Perhaps if he is training on his own, then the rumors of "injuries/rehab" are over exaggerated and were not a big deal after all, they were just an excuse... which means that his ass should be in camp with his team / teammates / coaches

my 2¢... ymmv

This is 100% wrong. Brady rejected the team's recommended doctor for Dr.Neil Ellattrache, and then rejected the team's training methods for training and focused upon pliability and elasticity over strength training for the rest of his career after the ACL injury and went on to have the greatest career of any player in history. The idea that the team is always right is ridiculous.

 

[Huckleberry1]

These are, not surprisingly, the same people who thought Christian Gonzalez was holding out. Or AJ Brown's leg is teh amputae,
It's funny how it's always the same people/

And then they get defensive when called on their constant negativity and say that they have the right to be negative, but don't think we have the same right to criticize them for always being negative.

 

[Pape]

This is 100% wrong. Brady rejected the team's recommended doctor for Dr.Neil Ellattrache, and then rejected the team's training methods for training and focused upon pliability and elasticity over strength training for the rest of his career after the ACL injury and went on to have the greatest career of any player in history. The idea that the team is always right is ridiculous.

Oh brother... Brady did not wildcat his rehab... He chose his own doctor, sure... Nothing odd about that... players do that all the time Ivan... Brady started his rehab with the team at the team facilities.. It wasn't until Belichick told him he couldn't be on the sidelines due to the potential of reinjuring his knee that he left to finish his rehab at home... Every thing done was done with team permission...

I have no clue if he focused on pliability during the rehab process, or even if that is part of the rehab process... Those who are more knowledgeable about acl rehab can answer that question... But it's a ******** point that means nothing... It's a red herring tossed in there to make it seem like you know what you are talking about about...

what I do know is he worked in conjunction with the team ... So, yeah, you are 100% incorrect in your assertion that I am 100% wrong...

 

[mayoclinic]

 

[DaBruinz]

will campbell didnt sign his deal until june 3 ... he managed to make it to otas and rookie mini-camp last year... aint no reason for gabe to hold out, not when they can provide guarantees AS YOU point out ... so THANK YOU for making my point for me

so maybe remove the "i don't agree" from my post because you obviously do agree

Will Campbell signed a Participation Contract. Something that the Patriots didn't offer Jacas. They aren't the same and you're being ridiculous in comparing them.

 

[DaBruinz]

he didnt sign, what? a standard participation agreement? jfc...

what a stupid statement, but that's no real surprise at this point... he's a second round pick, with the numbers basically slotted by the guy before him and the guy after him... "crap contract offer" my ass... stop reading your own press clippings, your points aren't as strong as you seem to think they are


hopeful obfuscation? what am i trying to hide? that he would not sign a participation agreement that players sign every year?

what an absolute ******** post by you

You shouldn't be calling anyone's statements stupid with the absolutely stupid position you've taken on this. It's showing that you don't understand how the league has changed things.

A participation agreement says that the team will continue to bargain in good faith with the player and will not hold any injury that occurs during Team activities against him when they reach an agreement on the player's rookie deal.

Since you missed it. The TEAM didn't offer a Participation agreement to Jacas. So how could he have refused to sign it?

 

[DaBruinz]

So when's his physical? That oughta be... interesting..

Already had it. Signed his contract. Keep on showing how moronic you are, Cap. Along with the bumble heads that trail you around thinking you're intelligent.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Oh brother... Brady did not wildcat his rehab... He chose his own doctor, sure... Nothing odd about that... players do that all the time Ivan... Brady started his rehab with the team at the team facilities.. It wasn't until Belichick told him he couldn't be on the sidelines due to the potential of reinjuring his knee that he left to finish his rehab at home... Every thing done was done with team permission...

I have no clue if he focused on pliability during the rehab process, or even if that is part of the rehab process... Those who are more knowledgeable about acl rehab can answer that question... But it's a ******** point that means nothing... It's a red herring tossed in there to make it seem like you know what you are talking about about...

what I do know is he worked in conjunction with the team ... So, yeah, you are 100% incorrect in your assertion that I am 100% wrong...

Actually what's ******** is your " the team is always right" argument. Team doctors and trainers have a long history of ****ing up players health and lives. Brady clearly rejected team training methods and was even seen in his own documentary trying to get Edelman to reject them as well. Lack of trust on team methods s what has led so many players to go their own way training, and rejecting team training and rehab in no way means a player is in the wrong.

 

[jdlboot14]

Man, 4yr $8.6M is not a lot for that position - if Gabe is anywhere near a starting caliber player by end of this year.
And if this mess was this hard, imagine when he gets to year 3 negotiating his first real extension!

 

[UGAPatsfan]

You must be a ton of fun at parties.

Lol. Yeah his post was kinda heavy for a sports messageboard. Maybe try some CBD or something Pape dang.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Man, 4yr $8.6M is not a lot for that position - if Gabe is anywhere near a starting caliber player by end of this year.
And if this mess was this hard, imagine when he gets to year 3 negotiating his first real extension!

I know he isn’t popular, but I respect Bedard’s knowlege and he seems pretty certain than major contribution year one was a long shot even before the weird absence. College to pro os a serious jump.

 

[raduray]

Already had it. Signed his contract. Keep on showing how moronic you are, Cap. Along with the bumble heads that trail you around thinking you're intelligent.

So how do you explain this if he's already had it?

 

[rochrist]

While not ideal, coming into camp on the 2nd day of camp is nothing in the great scheme of things. Between rookie camp and the OTA's he probably missed a total of 6 shorts and T-shirt practices. That puts him just a bit behind which can easily be made up over the course of the next 5 weeks of camp. If it has stretched into mid-August or later, THEN you'd have a case that the hold out was going to hurt his rookie season.... but it DIDN'T, so much ado about nothing.

Now we need to find out if he is full go, or will he be added to the PUP list.

Plus, it's been pointed out in some quarters that his job this year will be entirely designated pass rusher. Not a lot of nuance required. See QB, his QB.

 

[raduray]

Seems as this is going to be a project.

 

[Zuma]

Seems as this is going to be a project.

I didn’t think that would happen. I was wrong.

 

[Family]

Seems as this is going to be a project.

Why the NFI list and not PUP?

Did he have a knee procedure?

Was it non football related???

 

[n1997y]

I may be overly cynical but my first thought was that putting Jacas on the NFI might be an attempt to strengthen justification for how the team treated his injury during rookie minicamp and contract negotiations.

Or perhaps they’re just being conservative and want to see him progressively add movement and agility drills to his workouts as a gradual transition to full participation.