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Hypothetical: I don't think Vrabel's going anywhere, but if he was ousted, your thoughts on Mike Tomlin?

Would hate the idea.
 
We need to make a collective effort to ignore the noise and stop talking about this ****, a married man sleeping with a married woman has happened before in the history of mankind and although immoral it's not a crime.
 
The media is doing their best to find the smoking gun on this situation. So far, they just found another rendezvous. If it's somehow revealed Vrabel was having an affair and they had a son together, Bob will have no choice.
Why would Bob have no choice?
 
Why would Bob have no choice?
This is what i don't get why every new photo is such a big revelation for people.

Unless you live under a rock everyone especially the Krafts knows now they had a 6+ year affair, them spending time together in the last 6 years isn't some big stunning news every time we see a photo.

The only "stunning" news that changes this story is he's also been doing it with another woman, one of her kids is his or they've been spotted again together since the story broke otherwise it's just more of what we already knew 3 weeks ago.

Any new photo release of them together between 2020- April 2026 is just kind of expected?
 
Hypothetical question: I don't think Vrabel's job is in jeopardy, but if he was ousted, what do you think of Mike Tomlin? If offered, I don't see how Tomlin could turn it down. A playoff team with a young QB, etc.
Why would you want Mr. Slightly Above average who has to trip up opposing players?
 
This is what i don't get why every new photo is such a big revelation for people.

Unless you live under a rock everyone especially the Krafts knows now they had a 6+ year affair, them spending time together in the last 6 years isn't some big stunning news every time we see a photo.

The only "stunning" news that changes this story is he's also been doing it with another woman, one of her kids is his or they've been spotted again together since the story broke otherwise it's just more of what we already knew 3 weeks ago.

Any new photo release of them together between 2020- April 2026 is just kind of expected?
I don’t buy the whole “her kids are his” thing that people are constantly talking about anymore, but even if that were true - I keep seeing people say “well if that ends up true, Vrabel will be fired”

Why? I don’t understand how that would make this any less of a personal issue. What are the grounds for his termination?
 
I don’t buy the whole “her kids are his” thing that people are constantly talking about anymore, but even if that were true - I keep seeing people say “well if that ends up true, Vrabel will be fired”

Why? I don’t understand how that would make this any less of a personal issue. What are the grounds for his termination?
Oh he isn't getting fired for any of this i just meant those are the scenarios where his family situation could become so much of a mess i could see him stepping away.

I don't agree with the sentiment in the media that just more photos of him and Russini would do that.

People don't walk away from 15m a year and a franchise QB because more photos of what everyone already knows.
 
Mickey D would assume HC duties.
 
This is what i don't get why every new photo is such a big revelation for people.

Unless you live under a rock everyone especially the Krafts knows now they had a 6+ year affair, them spending time together in the last 6 years isn't some big stunning news every time we see a photo.

The only "stunning" news that changes this story is he's also been doing it with another woman, one of her kids is his or they've been spotted again together since the story broke otherwise it's just more of what we already knew 3 weeks ago.

Any new photo release of them together between 2020- April 2026 is just kind of expected?
It's a big revelation because Russini is on a boat date with Vrabel and she's got a big belly being 7 months pregnant. Guys typically don't have affairs with women who are 7 months pregnant unless the child is theirs. And women who are 7 months pregnant typically aren't going on boat dates with a guy who's not the father of her child. If it's not Vrabel's kid, everyone finds this disgusting. And if it is Vrabel's kid, it's just another thing both of them have been hiding another lie. That's why this is big
 
I don’t buy the whole “her kids are his” thing that people are constantly talking about anymore, but even if that were true - I keep seeing people say “well if that ends up true, Vrabel will be fired”

Why? I don’t understand how that would make this any less of a personal issue. What are the grounds for his termination?
If it's Vrabel's kid or kids, then another thing they have been hiding or lying about to their spouses and the public. And you can only do that so many times until major consequences come.
 
The media is doing their best to find the smoking gun on this situation. So far, they just found another rendezvous. If it's somehow revealed Vrabel was having an affair and they had a son together, Bob will have no choice.

Couldn't disagree more. Vrabel is probably going to end up getting divorced but Kraft isn't going to fire him for having an affair. Belichick was cheating on his wife and then his girlfriend and going out with a kid and it was never an issue.
 
I don’t buy the whole “her kids are his” thing that people are constantly talking about anymore, but even if that were true - I keep seeing people say “well if that ends up true, Vrabel will be fired”

Why? I don’t understand how that would make this any less of a personal issue. What are the grounds for his termination?

There are none. People just listen to the gossip girls on Boston sports radio and regurgitate Felger's garbage.
 
They have been hiding or lying about to their spouses and the public. And you can only do that so many times until major consequences come.
That is a personal problem. What are the grounds for termination from his job as HC of the NEP?
 
That is a personal problem. What are the grounds for termination from his job as HC of the NEP?
When and if the public, players and/or the Patriots can't trust your word anymore
 
When and if the public, players and/or the Patriots can't trust your word anymore
You don’t have to live with him or interact with him he only coaches your football team.

As long as these people aren’t breaking the law and winning games who really cares.

If the season happens and it’s a total disaster then we can revisit it, I care more about how it effects the team than his wife and we won’t know that till the games start so it’s kind of pointless projecting it.

We will know it when we see it if the team stinks.
 
When and if the public, players and/or the Patriots can't trust your word anymore
The players have very publicly backed Vrabel even though I am guessing they all realize he was likely having an affair, he may have even told them so in private. Do you think they will suddenly go from backing him 100% to no longer trusting him just because that affair produced a child? I really don't think that would move the needle for any of those players. Many of those players have gotten up to worse behavior themselves.
 
The players have very publicly backed Vrabel even though I am guessing they all realize he was likely having an affair, he may have even told them so in private. Do you think they will suddenly go from backing him 100% to no longer trusting him just because that affair produced a child? I really don't think that would move the needle for any of those players. Many of those players have gotten up to worse behavior themselves.
It could hurt trust because if true, it would be another thing they know he's been hiding from his wife, kids, and family
 
You don’t have to live with him or interact with him he only coaches your football team.

As long as these people aren’t breaking the law and winning games who really cares.

If the season happens and it’s a total disaster then we can revisit it, I care more about how it effects the team than his wife and we won’t know that till the games start so it’s kind of pointless projecting it.

We will know it when we see it if the team stinks.
I get your point, but these things can affect trust and ability to lead sometimes. But add to that a public relations problem for the organization.

If it's his kid, and it comes out soon, in my personal opinion, I don't think Vrabel will be the coach this season
 
I don’t buy the whole “her kids are his” thing that people are constantly talking about anymore, but even if that were true - I keep seeing people say “well if that ends up true, Vrabel will be fired”

Why? I don’t understand how that would make this any less of a personal issue. What are the grounds for his termination?
Not fired. Resign.

Not that I think he certainly would nor do I wish for it.

But it's definitely a possibility.

If one of her kids is his it might just reach a point he gives up being a public figure.

Attach to that whatever probability percentage you want from 1 to 99, the problem is that the probability exists at all.
 
Why would Bob have no choice?
Bob will and has thrown others under the bus to take the attention away from him.
Couldn't disagree more. Vrabel is probably going to end up getting divorced but Kraft isn't going to fire him for having an affair. Belichick was cheating on his wife and then his girlfriend and going out with a kid and it was never an issue.
First, Jordan is a grown woman. Second, BB was having an affair with a random woman.

This is different. The NFL wants this to go away badly because a can of worms could get opened if this continues on. The rumors are floating that not only was Russini sleeping around with other coaches/execs, but other female reporters could get exposed as well. It would be a bad look for the entire league. And I’m sure players have banged the female reporters.

There are some in the media already suggesting Vrabel got inside info from Russini. You already were that’s going. She also voted for coach of the year.

If the media wants someone fired or cut, they usually get their way.
 
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