Patriots Rumor A.J. Brown trade rumors heat up - Should Patriots get him?

[Family]

Comparing AJ Brown to Randy Moss is like comparing Aaron Rodgers to Tom Brady, you're talking elite player against a complete once in a lifetime freak of nature.

People like Moss/Brady break the rules that apply to the norm.

I don't think you ever want to compare to top 3 player at his position of all time why a trade is a good idea.

I know, but at the time Moss was viewed as done. Nobody was questioning whether he was once great.

It's not like Moss was even paid big bucks. It was sort of a prove it to us deal.

Obviously that was wrong.

 

[dliverey44]

How did Randy Moss look on the Pats at 30???

There are a handful of players that are exceptions, so the question that needs to be answered is AJ Brown an exception. Diggs did well after the age of 30 and I am sure that Brown will do well, but is it worth a 2028 1st? My answer is no

 

[upstater1]

Comparing AJ Brown to Randy Moss is like comparing Aaron Rodgers to Tom Brady, you're talking elite player against a complete once in a lifetime freak of nature.

People like Moss/Brady break the rules that apply to the norm.

I don't think you ever want to compare to top 3 player at his position of all time why a trade is a good idea, look at all the idiots in the media who thought playing elite QB in your mid 40s was just the new norm cause Brady did it.

I would rate Rodgers higher than Aj Brown, in the scheme of things. AJ Brown is not a top 10 NFL WR.

 

[upstater1]

So, a team is likely to find a 1st round worth player in the first 2/3 of the first, and only 50% likely in the last 1/3.

News at 11.

I seriously doubt that those are the %s for many teams in the NFL.

The Patriots win at the top more than any other team.

But even ignoring that, it explains why you should never trade these picks before you become an established team.

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

If it’s a first it takes for AJ Brown I’d rather just run it back with Diggs

Brown is better at this point and a couple years younger but this team still needs to prove out it’s OL and get some semblance of a consistent pass rush before it sniffs perennial contention

 

[BennyBledsoe]

And the value of that first round pick with cost control goes up for the Patriots with Maye and Gonzalez about to take huge chunks of the cap.

 

[Wozzy]

Just some observations from someone who agrees they shouldn’t trade a first for AJ Brown… a lot of people are either lying to themselves or delusional.

This team is not close to contending for a Super Bowl, when they just played in a Super Bowl? Okay…

This team has a lot of needs… but just played in a Super Bowl… again, odd. They filled every need for this season in free agency, then layered on a bunch of quality depth in the draft. They’re a better team now than this time last year.

AJ Brown isn’t a top WR anymore, but still posted 1000K yards receiving with a tentative QB who ranked 24th in pass attempts.

Yeah, they shouldn’t trade a first for a 28 year old WR, but he would unquestionably make the team better and this team is unquestionably in a position to win now.

The young guys including Drake need to develop and improve, they need to stay healthy… but the level of cope here is wild.

Drake is on his rookie contract, that is a cheat code to win rings. Win now. A 4th, or even a 3rd is worth it.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Just some observations from someone who agrees they shouldn’t trade a first for AJ Brown… a lot of people are either lying to themselves or delusional.

This team is not close to contending for a Super Bowl, when they just played in a Super Bowl? Okay…

This team has a lot of needs… but just played in a Super Bowl… again, odd. They filled every need for this season in free agency, then layered on a bunch of quality depth in the draft. They’re a better team now than this time last year.

AJ Brown isn’t a top WR anymore, but still posted 1000K yards receiving with a tentative QB who ranked 24th in pass attempts.

Yeah, they shouldn’t trade a first for a 28 year old WR, but he would unquestionably make the team better and this team is unquestionably in a position to win now.

The young guys including Drake need to develop and improve, they need to stay healthy… but the level of cope here is wild.

Drake is on his rookie contract, that is a cheat code to win rings. Win now. A 4th, or even a 3rd is worth it.

Agree except the last sentence isn't realistic - a 4th or 3rd won't get it done, especially if we're picking near the bottom of each round. This all depends on how much Vrabel loves his ex-player, who should have 3 more good years in him at 29-30-31. Philly owns extra picks next year in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds, so they may be good with a 2028 2nd.

 

[Wozzy]

Agree except the last sentence isn't realistic - a 4th or 3rd won't get it done, especially if we're picking near the bottom of each round. This all depends on how much Vrabel loves his ex-player, who should have 3 more good years in him at 29-30-31. Philly owns extra picks next year in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds, so they may be good with a 2028 2nd.

We don’t know the best offer Philly has received, so we couldn’t possibly know what will get it done.

Being a good negotiator means you have e the ability to walk away.

AJ Brown also has some say here, he has made 100M. He can afford to hold out if he doesn’t agree with the trade destination.

All this adds up to a situation where the market and available teams are limited. The Eagles will take the best offer available. The market always sets the price.

 

[PatsFan2]

Bottom line in my opinion, if trading for AJ Brown gets you a SB victory while he’s a Patriot, then I don’t care if they trade a 2028 first round pick for him. Also, we are in the Maye rookie contract era, get him as many good weapons as possible.

AJ Brown is big, strong, gets open, and has great hands. I know he’s not 25, but he’s still one of the best receivers in football.

It’s all about getting as much help for Maye, getting the best out of him, and of course it’s about winning.

Exactly: and to the experts Maye ain't winning the Big One with Second rate talents. Regular Season Stats don't mean $h!t if you don't win the the Playoffs see Celtics - Da Bruins and Peyton Manning in his early Colts years. Yeah many of you experts will say but... but Maye almost won the Regular season MVP. Remember when Peyton was winning all those Regular Season MVP's while Brady was Winning Super Bowl MVP's?? Who do you all prefer?? I want regular season Drake Maye to perform the same in the playoffs. His first Playoffs run left a lot to be desired: it was a pathetic end to a very good season.

 

[PatsFan2]

Then a lot more went wrong than trading a first round pick.

Seems like you don't trust Regular Season Drake Maye Tommy?? That's not like you...feeling ok??

 

[TommyD4207]

Seems like you don't trust Regular Season Drake Maye Tommy?? That's not like you...feeling ok??

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Just some observations from someone who agrees they shouldn’t trade a first for AJ Brown… a lot of people are either lying to themselves or delusional.

This team is not close to contending for a Super Bowl, when they just played in a Super Bowl? Okay…

This team has a lot of needs… but just played in a Super Bowl… again, odd. They filled every need for this season in free agency, then layered on a bunch of quality depth in the draft. They’re a better team now than this time last year.

AJ Brown isn’t a top WR anymore, but still posted 1000K yards receiving with a tentative QB who ranked 24th in pass attempts.

Yeah, they shouldn’t trade a first for a 28 year old WR, but he would unquestionably make the team better and this team is unquestionably in a position to win now.

The young guys including Drake need to develop and improve, they need to stay healthy… but the level of cope here is wild.

Drake is on his rookie contract, that is a cheat code to win rings. Win now. A 4th, or even a 3rd is worth it.

You mentioned twice in your post you wouldn't trade a 1st round pick for him. There is actually very few people that have been vocal about not wanting him at any price, so I'm not sure what you're arguing.

There is genuine reasons to not trade a 1st round pick for him, there's far fewer reasons to not trade a 3rd or 4th round pick.

The compensation is the sticking point for the vast majority on this board IMO, not the player himself.

 

[upstater1]

Exactly: and to the experts Maye ain't winning the Big One with Second rate talents. Regular Season Stats don't mean $h!t if you don't win the the Playoffs see Celtics - Da Bruins and Peyton Manning in his early Colts years. Yeah many of you experts will say but... but Maye almost won the Regular season MVP. Remember when Peyton was winning all those Regular Season MVP's while Brady was Winning Super Bowl MVP's?? Who do you all prefer?? I want regular season Drake Maye to perform the same in the playoffs. His first Playoffs run left a lot to be desired: it was a pathetic end to a very good season.

Maye can win in the playoffs with AJ Brown.

We better hope that's the case.

The problem last playoffs was the OL. There were WRs who were open -- Diggs certainly was.

 

[PatsFan2]

Maye can win in the playoffs with AJ Brown.

We better hope that's the case.

The problem last playoffs was the OL. There were WRs who were open -- Diggs certainly was.

Well they should bring Diggs back with A.J. the more Good WR's the merrier.

 

[Wozzy]

You mentioned twice in your post you wouldn't trade a 1st round pick for him. There is actually very few people that have been vocal about not wanting him at any price, so I'm not sure what you're arguing.

There is genuine reasons to not trade a 1st round pick for him, there's far fewer reasons to not trade a 3rd or 4th round pick.

The compensation is the sticking point for the vast majority on this board IMO, not the player himself.

There’s a lot of people talking the player down. It’s silly. Brown didn’t fall off a cliff.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

There’s a lot of people talking the player down. It’s silly. Brown didn’t fall off a cliff.

I'm sure a lot of that is coming from the latest reported compensation of a 2028 1st round pick.

If Schefter had recently said this probably gets done for a 5th, I highly doubt there would be just as much Brown bashing.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Just some observations from someone who agrees they shouldn’t trade a first for AJ Brown… a lot of people are either lying to themselves or delusional.

This team is not close to contending for a Super Bowl, when they just played in a Super Bowl? Okay…

This team has a lot of needs… but just played in a Super Bowl… again, odd. They filled every need for this season in free agency, then layered on a bunch of quality depth in the draft. They’re a better team now than this time last year.

AJ Brown isn’t a top WR anymore, but still posted 1000K yards receiving with a tentative QB who ranked 24th in pass attempts.

Yeah, they shouldn’t trade a first for a 28 year old WR, but he would unquestionably make the team better and this team is unquestionably in a position to win now.

The young guys including Drake need to develop and improve, they need to stay healthy… but the level of cope here is wild.

Drake is on his rookie contract, that is a cheat code to win rings. Win now. A 4th, or even a 3rd is worth it.

I agree with everything about our team now.
We are ready to win now as much as any other team.
I will never understand how people think we are years away from being a perennial contender when we just won 17 games and went to the SB.
Key to being a perennial contender is QB and coaching staff, and we have both. Period, end of story.
Now for AJ. If we are a contender, which again, we clearly are. Is AJ worth a 2028 1st if he makes us better for the next 2-3 years. Absolutely.

 

[Wozzy]

I agree with everything about our team now.
We are ready to win now as much as any other team.
I will never understand how people think we are years away from being a perennial contender when we just won 17 games and went to the SB.
Key to being a perennial contender is QB and coaching staff, and we have both. Period, end of story.

I think you need total team talent… which the Patriots have. There is a reason the Chiefs fell off despite having the QB and coach. The Bengals were close when they were more talented.

Patriots fans (maybe New England sports fans) are a strange breed. They never think the team has talent… even at the peak of the dynasty.

Now for AJ. If we are a contender, which again, we clearly are. Is AJ worth a 2028 1st if he makes us better for the next 2-3 years. Absolutely.

If AJ Brown goes apesht for the next 2-3 years fans will forget the 1st spent. If he gets injured and underachieves we’ll hear about it for the next decade or so.. regardless how well the team performs. See Chad Jackson…

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

I think you need total team talent… which the Patriots have. There is a reason the Chiefs fell off despite having the QB and coach. The Bengals were close when they were more talented.

Patriots fans (maybe New England sports fans) are a strange breed. They never think the team has talent… even at the peak of the dynasty.

If AJ Brown goes apesht for the next 2-3 years fans will forget the 1st spent. If he gets injured and underachieves we’ll hear about it for the next decade or so.. regardless how well the team performs. See Chad Jackson…

If he goes off for 2 years and is gone going into the 2028 draft, and THEN we lose that 1st rounder for him, no one will forget the draft pick spent for him.

Even if we win a Super Bowl with him, a 1st round pick is still a 1st round pick. In 2028 when Maye and Gonzalez are costing a fortune compared to what they cost us now, top talent on a reasonable contract become that much more critical.