Howie Roseman killing it again

[imahobgoblin]

I'm just going with what the OP is saying, that Roseman is killing it.

Last year, he posted a link to a report of Josh Simmons looking good in camp, called him the steal of the draft and ranted about how the Pats should have traded down for him. When Campbell looked good in our first preseason game, we then really needed to see him play multiple games that count before we can judge.

It's a weird thing to say Wolf needs to intern with them considering we traded up for 2 of our picks and seemingly have a deal in place for AJ Brown. This after a fantastic offseason last year. I don't understand the problem.

Everyone knows that Sam, Wozzy, and PatsFan2, and Andy all take special to a whole new level in their posts. They can't be fixed.

 

[DarrylS]

This reminds me of the typical pundit reaction after the draft as to who had the best draft(complete with grades), without any of these guys even going to Training camp...

 

[Rob0729]

Roseman is a very good GM who gets far too much worshipping. A lot of his draft success especially in the first round has been failures of the GMs picking in front of him making bad selections that allow players to fall to the Eagles. That isn't skill it is luck. When a player who should have been drafted five to ten spots earlier than your pick and you draft him, what did you really do that was special?

I think the Makai Lemon thing is being overplayed because it is Roseman. Yes, him jumping ahead of the Steelers to draft him while they were on the phone with Lemon is a good story (things like this happen probably more often than we think), but it is being really played up because it is Roseman.

I like the trade for Greenard. I wouldn't have been upset at all if the Patriots made that trade. I think people are overrating Greenard a bit, but I think he is a very good player but he has only had two great years and may not live up to the contract he just got.

I like what Wolf is doing since he was able to create the scouting and player personnel departments in his image. It is clear they draft more like the Packers under his father than the Patriots under Belichick. The players the Patriots are drafting not players that Belichick would have drafted.

Is Roseman better than Wolf? Sure at this point. But based on last year and how promising this offseason has been thus far this year, I think Wolf has the potential to be his equal or surpass him. Not betting on it. But I like Wolf. I think his issues with drafting and players management in the past was he was working in Belichick's system and not his own.

And I am not doing this as a swipe at Belichick. I am pointing out that Wolf was using a system that wasn't his and how he likes to evaluate players which no matter how good Belichick's system was or wasn't would hamstring him at a bit.

 

[mayoclinic]

steals Makai Lemon
trades for Greenard.
Eli Stowers at TE and
a 6'9 345 mountain of a man Bell from Miami
This what a bold and aggressive GM not afraid to make mistakes look like.
Eagles are going to be very good next year. Probably return to SB is in the cards


Wolf should intern for Rosenbaum

Makai Lemon sounds like he is on drugs.

This post sounds like it is on drugs.

 

[Ross12]

Howie is so incredible that his teams have achieved the unbelievable feat of being knocked out in the wild card round, or not even making the playoffs, 5 times in the last 7 years. He is a genius!

 

[TomPatriot]

Makai Lemon sounds like he is on drugs.

 

[TheRainMaker]

While he's done well recently, Roseman is overrated overall. He's been in charge of player personnel for 16 years and is really lucky he even has 2 Super Bowls. There was a stretch of time the Eagles easily could've fired him between 2010-2016. Think Micky Loomis hanging around with the Saints for absolutely no reason.

The Eagles had no business winning the Super Bowl in 2017 and benefited in 2024 from the conference in a down year. 2022 should've won.

 

[patriotsdynasty12189]

Lemon is giving me Raegor vibes, Hurts will struggle to get him the ball.

 

[captain stone]

steals Makai Lemon
trades for Greenard.
Eli Stowers at TE and
a 6'9 345 mountain of a man Bell from Miami
This what a bold and aggressive GM not afraid to make mistakes look like.
Eagles are going to be very good next year. Probably return to SB is in the cards


Wolf should intern for Rosenbaum

Yep.

And watch Howie on June 2nd anal-rape Eliot The **** for a '27 1st-Rounder for AJB...

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Howie is so incredible that his teams have achieved the unbelievable feat of being knocked out in the wild card round, or not even making the playoffs, 5 times in the last 7 years. He is a genius!

Had to looks this up to make sure it's real. Honestly, I do think he deserves ton of praise for the rosters he's built but wow is this a cold bucket of water haha

I guess I understand why a team seemingly always good has so much drama - they actually underachieve a lot.

 

[State]

Roseman is the best GM. Recent success had eluded the Eagles. Why? His overrated QB.

Another year and the Great Howie, who drafted that potential phenom Nigerian at DT in the seventh Mark Morse talked about at length, may finally realize a replacement needs to be made.

Patriot fans may want to catch up on the fact that the paltry Jetes finally have a more than competent GM in Darren Mougey.

 

[Rob0729]

Yep.

And watch Howie on June 2nd anal-rape Eliot The **** for a '27 1st-Rounder for AJB...

He isn't getting a 2027 first round pick for Brown. You have all these reporters (Schefter, Breer) saying he would take a 2028 first basically to save face by claiming he got a first rounder for Brown.

Roseman has little leverage now. He drafted a WR in the first round and traded up to get him. He has to trade Brown now. And most teams moved on because they didn't want to wait until June 1st to trade for him.

He has some leverage because the Pats want Brown, but they don't need him. There are still WRs out there that would still improve this roster even if they are a significant steps down from Brown like Diggs or DeAndre Hopkins or Juan Jennings or Tyreek Hill (assuming he is healthy enough). Again, they aren't nearly the impact of Brown.

 

[Ross12]

Had to looks this up to make sure it's real. Honestly, I do think he deserves ton of praise for the rosters he's built but wow is this a cold bucket of water haha

I guess I understand why a team seemingly always good has so much drama - they actually underachieve a lot.

I do think he is a good GM but seems to be wayyy over-hyped considering his teams achieve relatively little compared to how much he gets talked up. You can point to bad coaching, but he's in charge of who the coach is.