Breer: Vrabel says the Pats will approach the offseason getting younger, cheaper, & better options

[Wozzy]

Really don't get the love for Linderbaum that so many here seem to have. He looked pretty washed up to me last year.

Agree, undersized, weak, does nothing for me.

 

[Miguel]

Yo Peeps!
Sup with Miguel? I miss his Patscap info. Gone from here & gone from X. Hope he just retired from cap tracking.

I said for a couple of years if I did not reach my goal of raising $120K for the Hartford Habitat for Humanity I would leave Twitter. Did not reach my goal. Left Twitter. There are other reasons why I left Twitter but that is for a different forum.

I am on BlueSky. My handle is Patscap (@patscap.bsky.social). I lurk here. Occasionally post here. Hope to see you at a game in 2026.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Appreciate all you do Miguel.
Thanks for all you have done over the years.

G

 

[Real fan 02]

They already drafted someone to take over from Bradbury in Wilson. Why would you draft ANNOTHER center?

You think Linderbaum benefits from having Derrick Henry as a RB and not the other way around?

If only Gonzo get's an extension, how are you giving Hollins an additional year?

Wilson can play G/C. We don't know that he's the replacement for Bradbury..

Yes I do believe he benefits from Jackson and Henry. Not to diminish his value but just saying we don't have a dominant running game.

I said gonzo should be only one that we extended to a lucrative contract this offseason..

Easy Hollins has been an integral part to the offense he's an excellent leader has a year left on his deal.. add another year extension.. BB did this with guys all the time..

 

[Real fan 02]

Really don't get the love for Linderbaum that so many here seem to have. He looked pretty washed up to me last year.

Spot on.. for example if McGovern signed elsewhere would he get the same recognition from playing with the best QB in the league in Allen? Dan koppen solid player he made a pro bowl playing with Brady.. it's not to diminish a guys value but it matters who's at the skill positions..

Currently we have a solid veteran in Bradbury who many want to get rid of..

 

[DaBruinz]

Wilson can play G/C. We don't know that he's the replacement for Bradbury..

Wilson was horrible at guard for a good portion of the year. Yes, we DO know that Wilson was the replacement at Center. That's why he was drafted.

Yes I do believe he benefits from Jackson and Henry. Not to diminish his value but just saying we don't have a dominant running game.

Based on what?

I said gonzo should be only one that we extended to a lucrative contract this offseason..

Easy Hollins has been an integral part to the offense he's an excellent leader has a year left on his deal.. add another year extension.. BB did this with guys all the time..

Clearly you can't be bothered to understand that you contradicted yourself. You first stated to give Hollins an extension but then said that only Gonzo should get one. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yup, that's the risk when signing players from other teams. Are they a product of the system or can they play for any team?

Spot on!!.. the roster as a whole is in a much better place than at any point we could say in the past 4,5 seasons.. we made a superbowl berth with this very same roster..in year 1 of Vrabel.. I just don't see this team worse.. I tend to believe the skill position around players on the OL can vastly help.

We need to address edge first and foremost this is a championship level defense that needs edge help and some additions at LB and Safety for depth.

Offensive line a poster mentioned the possibility of Wilson being Bradbury replacement. Wilson needs to stay where he is.. he was the starting LG all season as rookie. Drafting a C is the logical thing.. therefore we can allocate our $$$ to spread out the roster.. extending gonzo, possible trades.. we also need tl take care of our own FA that have built the culture back up..

Chaisson, Tonga, Hawkins for example

Chaisson- 3yr 30 million
Hawkins- 3 yr 12 million
Tonga 2 year 6 million

On Hawkins we can still add at safety having them all compete in camp..

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Currently we have a solid veteran in Bradbury who many want to get rid of..

because Bradbury can't run block worth crap. Maybe you missed the game where we tried 7 or 8 times from the 1 yard line and could not score?

The Pats have no run game between the tackles because Wilson and Bradbury CAN NOT run block, and Onwenu struggles getting to the 2nd level plus. It is mostly Bradbury and Wilson. Ever notice our RBs get hit before the line of scrimmage? Bradbury is OK at pass blocking but weak as ass in run blocking. We want Brad ury gone so we can have a run game of more than 2 ypc up the middle. Once we can run, we can go play action. Everything opens up.

 

[Real fan 02]

because Bradbury can't run block worth crap. Maybe you missed the game where we tried 7 or 8 times from the 1 yard line and could not score?

The Pats have no run game between the tackles because Wilson and Bradbury CAN NOT run block, and Onwenu struggles getting to the 2nd level plus. It is mostly Bradbury and Wilson. Ever notice our RBs get hit before the line of scrimmage? Bradbury is OK at pass blocking but weak as ass in run blocking. We want Brad ury gone so we can have a run game of more than 2 ypc up the middle. Once we can run, we can go play action. Everything opens up.

I here you One.. I'm by no means here saying Bradbury is the end all be all.. I'm simply asking are you committing 20 million to a C who may or may not be more impactful on a new team? You make compelling sense..

 

[Real fan 02]

Wilson was horrible at guard for a good portion of the year. Yes, we DO know that Wilson was the replacement at Center. That's why he was drafted.


Based on what?



Clearly you can't be bothered to understand that you contradicted yourself. You first stated to give Hollins an extension but then said that only Gonzo should get one. You can't have it both ways.

You misread what I'm saying as usual.. I'm simply saying Gonzo is the only one on the roster that should see a sizable extension.. but you want to give 20 million to an undersized C.. can we please understand we got to the superbowl with this current roster.. but maybe Vrabel should read your post to build up his roster..

 

[Real fan 02]

Agree, undersized, weak, does nothing for me.

 

[TommyD4207]

I here you One.. I'm by no means here saying Bradbury is the end all be all.. I'm simply asking are you committing 20 million to a C who may or may not be more impactful on a new team? You make compelling sense..

The only thing worse than spouting PFF grades like they mean something, is posting Gemini like it means something.

 

[Wozzy]

Bradbury is better, no need to add Linderbaum. Bradbury is already under contract.

 

[p8ryts]

Bradbury is better, no need to add Linderbaum. Bradbury is already under contract.

Agree, just find a LG and a competent LT, anything beyond that will be gravy.

 

[Real fan 02]

Agree, just find a LG and a competent LT, anything beyond that will be gravy.

They don't want to pay Diggs but rather invest 20m in a center bottom ranked in Pass protection... don't get it..

 

[crownontherocks]

Chaisson posted on his story on IG
The song i am back

 

[Jim Plunkett]

No it doesn’t. Many times you can find guys who didn’t make an impact on other teams who can make a huge impact on the Patriots. See guys like Chaisson or Gibbens or Spillane were younger and cheap alternative. Hell, back in the day Vrabel was a young, cheap solution when they signed him after he his unimpressive rookie stint in Pittsburgh.

The Pats all last year found young, cheap solutions. Look at guys like Corey Durden who was a nothing practice squader on this third team in three years and turned into a solid rotational guy for next to nothing.

Good scouting can find younger, cheaper guys who may just be a round peg in a square hole in their current situation, but can be solid contributors or even starters on this team.

And many times the older, more expensive guys are either in the final years of deals that were signed when they were better or guys who were paid last year when the Pats were more desperate to get talent and were willing to take older players on larger contracts on short term deals as 1-2 year stop gaps.

The Pats are not like the Dolphins who are dumping overvalued salaries of players with actual value but because they gave a stupid contract to Tua and others have no choice to dump talent and get cheap alternatives because they created a mess. The Pats are in a good position that they can continue to get younger and improve that way because they can take young guys they truly believe in and not just take them because that is all they can afford.

Look, dude, enough with the sports cliches. There's no huge impact by anyone coming from this point forward. There's no- oh, if this or this happens or if the QB did something else or if that play changes or that scheme or if the ref has or hadn't. Or what ever. The Patriots days are all done. Are you really going to spend the next ten years watching every game as if it's going to matter going forward. 6-6 is the end of it all. The history is written.
The Patriots are now and for many years, just one of the 32 teams in the league. Nothing special or significant ever again. Certainly not in anyone's lifetime here.

 

[Jim Plunkett]

WTF are you talking about?

Whether cutting a veteran makes you weaker or not depends upon the younger player replacing them. It makes you weaker if they are worse, and stronger off they are better.

They replaced Jacoby Brissett with Drake Maye, did that make them weaker or stronger?

It made them pronounced super bowl losers. It was their destiny to go 6-6 and finish the cycle. So it made them weaker in the ultimate sense.

 

[TommyD4207]

It made them pronounced super bowl losers. It was their destiny to go 6-6 and finish the cycle. So it made them weaker in the ultimate sense.

This is objectively better than another 4-13 season.
You know this already, of course.

 

[Jim Plunkett]

Another dumb, uninformed post from you.

Lol, yeah sure. I seem to remember pointing out how significantly weak Maye was as a starting QB in SB. I wasn't wrong obviously.