In what order would you rank the Patriots SB teams? From best to weakest

[sb1]

1996: We seem to underrate this team. They were loaded and arguably the most talented overall. They put up a fight against one of the best teams of the 90's.

With a HC that had one foot out the door.

 

[Nehalem]

2016 - Brady's arm was fractionally softer, but from the neck up he was on his own plane of existence, and this team was maybe the most well-oiled machine top to bottom since, well, 2004. Then the wheels fell off in the Super Bowl...until they didn't, heh.

2016 - Brady's arm was fractionally softer, but from the neck up he was on his own plane of existence, and this team was maybe the most well-oiled machine top to bottom since, well, 2004. Then the wheels fell off in the Super Bowl...until they didn't, heh.

Team was 14-2. Should have been 15-1, as one loss was with Brissett with a broken thumb when Brady was wrongly suspended.

Only legit loss was to Seattle 31-24. We ended the game on the 1 yard line unable to punch it in.

Can you imagine if we had gone 16-0 and had the 28-3 Super Bowl still?

 

[Nehalem]

It’s so hard to do this because of injuries. I believe our very best team was probably 2015 but injuries decimated them, but since they didn’t make the Super Bowl I’d say the 2016 team which was slightly not as good as 2015, but also didn’t have Gronk late in the season.

Is the 2016 team not as good as the 2015?

They were 14-2. One loss was with a QB with a broken thumb, and the other was a 31-24 game to Seattle where we had a drive end on the 1 yard line at the end.

Also not the 2016 defense was ranked #1 and 2015 #10.

 

[sean10mm]

I don't know about very best, but in the window where it was healthy the 2015 team was sick and Brady led the league in TDs while having the lowest INT % and Gronk was an All-Pro.

2016 everything fell into place and they sustained it, but 2015 was a real "what if?"

 

[JoeSixPat]

Winners:

2014 - This might seem like a Hot Take, but we forget how uniformly good this team was, how absolutely locked in Brady was after the first 4 games, and how good the Seahawks team they beat was - they absolutely CLOWNED ON the "best offense in history" Broncos the year before, and the Pats hung in to steal their soul at the last second, which broke the back of that would-be dynasty.

2004 - This team wasn't flashy, but was an absolute mincing machine. Different era that can seem dull now, but on their Super Bowl run they held the best offense in league history to 3, and then hung 41 on the best defense in the league. 2004 was when Brady leveled up and Belichick was absolutely peak.

2016 - Brady's arm was fractionally softer, but from the neck up he was on his own plane of existence, and this team was maybe the most well-oiled machine top to bottom since, well, 2004. Then the wheels fell off in the Super Bowl...until they didn't, heh.

2003 - Very skewed toward defense, and Brady wasn't in his final form yet, but they won 15 straight games and then Brady suddenly went HAM in the Super Bowl.

2018 - The last hurrah, thin on talent and Brady (seemingly, heh) running on fumes, but I give it the edge over 2001 because of just the experience level and how they just choked out the uber-offense of the Rams so utterly. Belichick's final "I'm smarter than everyone in the league" coaching performance.

2001 - Sentimentally this is #1, but they we not good for like the first 2/3ish of the year and the entire playoff run was a series of squeakers that could have gone the other way. But of course they didn't!

Losers:

2007 - Duh. That being said, you could see their dominance taper off down the stretch.

2011 & 2017 - Push, both teams were stellar offenses with ATROCIOUS defenses. Equal disappoint.

1996 - This still feels like the best non-Brady team, which is admittedly a low bar. Bledsoe was a Pro Bowler that year, and they at least scored >1 touchdown on offense.

2025 - This was a good team, let's not get it twisted, but they had the easiest SoS *in team history* and were just flatly outclassed in the Super Bowl on a basic talent level, especially OL. Maye made a big leap from his rookie year, but was no Brady (which is an insanely unfair comparison, of course)

1985 - Out of the top 5 in points for and points against, quarterbacks were ehhhhhhhhhhhh, and wildly outclassed in the big game.

There's no way I could put this team behind the 85 team. We were lucky to be there and it was an NFC dominant year.

2006 was a real lost opportunity in which we contended even with friggen Reche Caldwell as our #1 WR - and if not for letting the Colts come back to win, I'm sure even that team would have beaten the Rex Grossman-led Bears that season

 

[TommyD4207]

07
04
16
03
14
17
01
18
11
96
85
25

Can't put any Brady led teams bottom 3

The 25 team was way better than the 85 team. Way better. Probably better than the 11 team too. We forget how bad 11's defense was.

The 85 team actually *did* have a ******** lucky run in the playoffs. Was it 11 or 13 fumbles they recovered in the Divisional and AFCCG combined? (Just Checked, it was 13) Offense was Hannah and Morgan, and 2nd year Irving Fryar, and a Tony Eason career year for 10 games. Oh, Craig James had a good year too that year. Defense was Tippett and...Ray Clayborn I guess? Julius Adams was 100 years old and still starting.

The 04 team was the best team top-to-bottom. There were no holes. 07 was basically the older version of the 04 team, +Moss and Welker.

 

[TommyD4207]

I didn't see 85 so you'd have to put this years team as worst based on the Super Bowl but the 2011 team was horrible probably quite a bit worse than this years personnel wise only saved because they had Brady in his prime, they had no business even being in the Super Bowl.

The defense was putrid, they were giving up 20 every game for almost 2 months going into the playoffs and had Edelman playing defensive snaps in an AFCCG, the secondary was one of the worst in 20 years.

That was the dark days of Patriots defensive football before guys like Hightower, Chandler Jones and Talib arrived and McCourty moved to safety the personnel defensively in 2011 was some of the worst i've seen.

They also lost to a really bad Giants team, the 2011 Giants were a mediocre football team they would of got worked by this Seattle team too.

The 85 team was way worse. The 85 team was basically the 94 team, with some incredibly fortunate turnover luck. And with a worse QB (regardless of which one it was).

 

[captain stone]

In what order would you rank the Patriots Super Bowl teams from best to weakest? Since the Pats have far more SB appearances than every other NFL franchise, here's the list as a guide (in chronological order):

'85 loss to Chicago
'96 loss to Green Bay
'01 win over St. Louis
'03 win over Carolina
'04 win over Philadelphia
'07 loss to NY Giants
'11 loss to NY Giants
'14 win over Seattle
'16 win over Atlanta
'17 loss to Philadelphia
'18 win over LA Rams
'25 loss to Seattle

Don't know about the other 11, but this year's team was the Worst. By far.

 

[TommyD4207]

Don't know about the other 11, but this year's team was the Worst. By far.

No it wasn't. The 85 team was significantly worse than this one.

 

[Ring 6]

07
04
16
03
14
17
01
18
11
96
85
25

Can't put any Brady led teams bottom 3

07 can’t be ahead of teams that won
25 should be easily ahead of 85,96,11
18 needs to also be ahead of any that lost.

04
16
03
14
18
01
07
17
25
11
96
85

 

[Guts]

07 can’t be ahead of teams that won
25 should be easily ahead of 85,96,11
18 needs to also be ahead of any that lost.

04
16
03
14
18
01
07
17
25
11
96
85

That's fair on the 07 taoe
I cant put any team thats lost a SB ahead of any Brady led team tho

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Apropos of nothing, 1985 might be my favorite Pats AFC playoff run ever... beat the Jets, Raiders, and Fins all on the road as a wild card... and won in Miami for the first time since 1966.

I choose to end my 1985 postseason memories there.

To be fair the 85 Bears and their defense was likely top 3 of all time. Nobody and I mean nobody was stopping them. They gave up 13 points in the playoffs???? Pats and Eason just happened to be a speed bump in the way...

 

[TheRainMaker]

The 04 team was the best team top-to-bottom. There were no holes.

The secondary was a major weakness which was why that “idiot kicker” made that comment he did. Media also were leaning towards the Colts as a favorite because of the injuries in the Pats secondary. That was the year the Colts should’ve beaten down the Pats like they did one year later.

Is the 2016 team not as good as the 2015?

They were 14-2. One loss was with a QB with a broken thumb, and the other was a 31-24 game to Seattle where we had a drive end on the 1 yard line at the end.

Also not the 2016 defense was ranked #1 and 2015 #10.

Both teams would've had better records had there not been injuries in 2015 and the suspension in 2016.

 

[TommyD4207]

To be fair the 85 Bears and their defense was likely top 3 of all time. Nobody and I mean nobody was stopping them. They gave up 13 points in the playoffs???? Pats and Eason just happened to be a speed bump in the way...

Patriots defense/special teams recovered 13 fumbles in the AFC Divisional and Championship games to make the Super Bowl in 85.
That run of ******** luckiness has never been matched.

 

[Pape]

The 04 team was the best team top-to-bottom. There were no holes. 07 was basically the older version of the 04 team, +Moss and Welker.

thought the 03 team was better...

something tough about them... lunch pail guy toughness to them... offense wasn't as good because of dillon, but the defense was better... the d was a turnover machine that year...

 

[p8ryts]

Patriots defense/special teams recovered 13 fumbles in the AFC Divisional and Championship games to make the Super Bowl in 85.
That run of ******** luckiness has never been matched.

Until this year.

 

[1960Pats]

Apropos of nothing, 1985 might be my favorite Pats AFC playoff run ever... beat the Jets, Raiders, and Fins all on the road as a wild card... and won in Miami for the first time since 1966.

I choose to end my 1985 postseason memories there.

I have those three games on VHS.

 

[sb1]

25 and 96 were close. Both well coached, had some up and coming youth and some luck in the playoffs. Pats got to face Stid in the AFCCG and 96 got lucky with Jags beating a powerhouse Denver team in Denver in one of the biggest upsets in NFL history.

They lost the SB by only 2 less points than this year's team did tho tbh it didn't feel like it. Felt like they gave GB a fight for much of the game. 25 Pats didn't really give SEA a fight in this game.

 

[1960Pats]

To be fair the 85 Bears and their defense was likely top 3 of all time. Nobody and I mean nobody was stopping them. They gave up 13 points in the playoffs???? Pats and Eason just happened to be a speed bump in the way...

The Pats were the first team to score a point against the Bears in the playoffs. They shut out the Giants and Rams.

 

[Steve102]

Don't know about the other 11, but this year's team was the Worst. By far.

Of course it was.