Patriots Injury News Campbell Says He's Been Playing with a Torn Ligament in His Knee

[Toofy]

Generally I agree, although I’d really like to see almost all rookies redshirted for their first year and then getting rotation and spot starts in their second year before competing for starting spots in their third year. After that third year it’s time to decide about extending them, and how much to invest in that. Exceptions would be truly elite rookies, unlikely to be available by the time a really good team drafts.

Draft position is why I think the extra development year is needed. A really good team needs to evaluate draft prospects a little differently, because the choices still available when they draft will have been thoroughly picked over. That means that the team needs to looks more for talent and potential and less for accomplishments. Planning for the extra year of development allows them to consider prospects who are still raw and needing more development. We should be looking to draft more for future needs, a couple of years out, than for immediate needs.

Thankfully even our most apparent OL flaws may be much better next year just with talent already in the locker room. A full year in the program for our rookies and new acquisitions will give a lot of improvement. We have a lot of very young players.

I think we both are saying the same thing. I want the rookies drafted this year to contribute next year . So to ensure they continue their development , I will want to phase out the vets so that they get their playing time in second year

 

[ALP]

Counterpoint: Mondre

He was at a weak point, Vrabel stuck with him when BB would have benched him, and he ended up being one of the biggest reasons for our success this year.

I summarize it differently. Rham sucked to start the season. Then we started lowering his load for Henderson and Gibson. Henderson excelled, Gibson got hurt, rham still had carries because there was no proven back behind him. Then rham also started playing better.

So actually even though it’s not exact, the rham situation also lends to the case that Campbell should have gotten sat, even if sporadically

 

[rochrist]

No, need to include Josh and Marrone. And possibly the doctors.

Vrabel’s decisions depend on what he’s told.

That would be kind of damning if true. But I don't think Vrabel is the sort to just blindly take the words of his assistants. And he IS the HEAD coach.

 

[Jim Beankie]

then the whole coaching staff needs to be fired lol
you saw him struggling mightily why didn't they just put someone else there? dont even say it was cause he was best option seeing how he was historically bad lmao

... soooo coaching staff turned a 4-13 team to a 17-4 team, and they all need to be fired... got it

I know you're kidding - just had to say something.

 

[Jim Beankie]

A lot of people have mentioned bringing Lowe back as a backup/insurance. This might point to how tough that is. If Lowe has any amount of professional pride (and if he doesn't why would you even want him?) then I don't see how he can't be fuming over this. The rookie was getting his ass absolutely handed to him for the whole playoffs and they still didn't put him in. Either they have zero confidence in Lowe whatsoever so they aren't willing to give him a fair shake of playing over the high draft pick if he's the better option. So if he has any dreams of actually being given the opportunity to compete for playing time I don't see how he would want to come back after this.

As we all know Lowe played last year injured. Who's to say he too isn't injured right now? We have no idea. Injury report be darned. Heck maybe Felger's right that the Pats should be fined a bag of balls for false injury reports!

I'm buzzed y'all...

 

[Guts]

... soooo coaching staff turned a 4-13 team to a 17-4 team, and they all need to be fired... got it

I know you're kidding - just had to say something.

Knee jerk reactions dawg
dont take me seriously lol

 

[Stu Pidassle]

As we all know Lowe played last year injured. Who's to say he too isn't injured right now? We have no idea. Injury report be darned. Heck maybe Felger's right that the Pats should be fined a bag of balls for false injury reports!

I'm buzzed y'all...

Felger is just being his normal DB self whipping up nonsense about the injury report. The IR is oriented towards the chances of a player missing the game, not health. Maye was taken off the report when it was clear that he was going to play. The Bills did the same thing with Allen's broken foot. For all the interest generated by gambling, it creates a lot of noise for many fans who just want to watch good football.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Ok, I was thinking we’d have no need for looking to draft a guard if Wilson doesn’t move to center, unless he and Brown are viewed as not good enough to be the answer there.

We need to keep stocking the pipeline no matter what, so I don’t really think of calling those draft picks out explicitly. We’ve already got Wallace, Jaimes, Butler, and Rupcich in the pipeline as well.

I really believe that Vrabel wants the best OL in football, and he is going to prioritize that regardless of whether it will hurt some feelings or not. I expect them to bring in 3 OL who can, at a minimum, compete for starting jobs. OG, OC, and RT.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Generally I agree, although I’d really like to see almost all rookies redshirted for their first year and then getting rotation and spot starts in their second year before competing for starting spots in their third year. After that third year it’s time to decide about extending them, and how much to invest in that. Exceptions would be truly elite rookies, unlikely to be available by the time a really good team drafts.

Draft position is why I think the extra development year is needed. A really good team needs to evaluate draft prospects a little differently, because the choices still available when they draft will have been thoroughly picked over. That means that the team needs to looks more for talent and potential and less for accomplishments. Planning for the extra year of development allows them to consider prospects who are still raw and needing more development. We should be looking to draft more for future needs, a couple of years out, than for immediate needs.

Thankfully even our most apparent OL flaws may be much better next year just with talent already in the locker room. A full year in the program for our rookies and new acquisitions will give a lot of improvement. We have a lot of very young players.

I think this will be the biggest factor next season, how these young players develop will determine their fate in 26'.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Felger is just being his normal DB self whipping up nonsense about the injury report. The IR is oriented towards the chances of a player missing the game, not health. Maye was taken off the report when it was clear that he was going to play. The Bills did the same thing with Allen's broken foot. For all the interest generated by gambling, it creates a lot of noise for many fans who just want to watch good football.

Add in that its based in on practice participation. If someone fully practices, there is no need to be on the report. Health isn't the issue.