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NFL News [Speculation on TV] McDaniels to Cardinals?

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Have you ever hired anyone for an executive level job? Have you ever been interviewed for a C-level job? I was successful at both of those, so I know how that part of the real world works.

It is more nuanced and subtle than that.

Part of the interview process is getting to know the candidates’ motivations, their priorities, what makes them tick. You find out what they’re looking for, what they want, their working style and how they’re going to fit in. Very importantly, you want to know what’s going to make them happy and what is going to make them feel successful and give them job satisfaction.

There are two reasons someone leaves their job: unhappiness with it, and attractiveness of a new offer. There will always be both factors involved. If you do a good job of selection by making sure there’s a good fit and a good job of managing and rewarding them so they’re happy working for you there’s much less chance they’ll find something else more attractive. We know from the Raiders continued payout that financial rewards are not a significant short term factor.

If I were in Vrabel’s shoes interviewing Josh one part of the interview would be particularly intense, or possibly a bit brutal. That would be exploring what happened with Indianapolis. I’d certainly want to know what factors would make you renege on accepting a job offer, because I don’t want to have that happen to me. That conversation is going to tell me a lot about your values and what’s important to you, and those are going to be some of the same factors that will determine if you are happy and stay or leave a job once you have it.

Note that none of those are placing any restrictions on mobility. They don’t need to written into the contract. They’re part of getting to know the candidates and evaluating that their values are aligned with the organizational culture you’re trying to build. The point is to make a good selection, so you don’t have to handcuff them with contractual restrictions on their career growth.

OTOH the candidates know the dance too, and they can sit there and tell you what they know you want to hear while being ready to pivot in an instant as Josh did with Indianapolis. But they also know the importance of loyalty, and Josh knows that not only is Indianapolis a blot in his copybook, he has two strikes on him from failed HC gigs in the past. He’d be rolling the dice big time to take the gamble of leaving his premier Patriots gig for another crack at HC in the NFL. If he didn’t succeed at his next try in that role he’s pretty much put himself into career hell. I think he’s too smart to fall into that trap now, even if he still has any appetite for the HC role. Maybe in a few years, if he has any such inclination, but not until the Raider money dries up.
Thanks for the input. Yes I do understand interviewing and hiring.

The OC job, by its very nature, is a stepping stone position. Totally every OC is trying to get a HC job. The NFL is unique with 32 organizations competing with each other publicly, with weekly results. And every year about 20% of management is overturned, replaced usually by hiring competitors from one step lower on the ladder.
You aren’t going to “get assurances” that a coordinator won’t leave, because every coordinator is hoping to impress another team and get offered there HC job. To ask for “assurances” he won’t leave us to say you don’t understand the position or the people in it.

I wouldn’t be surprise at all to think that Vrabrls interest in McDaniels was enhanced by the fact his HC mobility is damaged and that he should be around for a few years improving the chances of continuity.

But the comment was he “got assurances” that McD wouldn’t leave and that’s just not how this works. You don’t seek out the best OC by making them swear an oath they don’t want promotion. You end up with Alex Van Punt when you do things like that.
 
McDaniels has ruined his chance to be a Head Coach again! He won't be leaving the Patriots anytime soon.
 
Josh has a nest egg of at least $30m, guaranteed to grow to at least $40m over the next 2 years. Probably closer to $50m if he’s had a good financial advisor, which I suspect he does. If he continues as an OC for another 8-10 years, his $50m will grow to $80m, and he can retire with $5-8m per year income off interest. That’s if he stays put.

If he were to fly the coop for a 5 yr deal @ say $12m/yr, the diff is about $28m gross, or roughly $16m after taxes.

In other words, does he make a move like that in order to increase his net worth from $80m to $95m? I would say from a financial motivation standpoint, he wouldn’t. He’s already got the sweetest setup imaginable.
 
I hate scorpions. Good job its to cold for them in the UK.

Oh yeah, and the most common ones here are bark scorpions. They're the most venomous in the US and they love being upside down, so they're on the underside of everything, including ceilings. Got stung in the arm last summer...not pretty.
 
Devin McCourty is speculating Josh McDaniels and Monti Ossenfort already have a deal in place.

God I hope this is not true.
I think it would be asinine for him to take that job.. Murray is on the trade block likely and Jacoby Brissett is the starting QB.. Josh really should resist another HC opportunity so soon..and weigh all his options.
 
Yeah I think this is fake news. Cardinals asked permission to talk to Patriots passing game coordinator for their HC job. Not Josh.
I tend to believe exactly this ring... it's more likely Thomas Bryant or someone gets a look. I don't think Josh should be in a rush to leave again.
 
I hate scorpions. Good job its to cold for them in the UK.
Cmon now, they were a pretty good band in the 1980s.
 
I tend to believe exactly this ring... it's more likely Thomas Bryant or someone gets a look. I don't think Josh should be in a rush to leave again.
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I think it would be asinine for him to take that job.. Murray is on the trade block likely and Jacoby Brissett is the starting QB.. Josh really should resist another HC opportunity so soon..and weigh all his options.
Josh McDaniels as a HC is criminal: I feel for the organization that makes that mistake. There's too much moving parts when ones running the ship it's not for everybody. Regarding McDaniels as a HC: Twice Bitten Trice Shy away : the evidence is there. Some guys are what they are and Josh is an Excellent Offensive Coordinator.
 
Josh McDaniels as a HC is criminal: I feel for the organization that makes that mistake. There's too much moving parts when ones running the ship it's not for everybody. Regarding McDaniels as a HC: Twice Bitten Trice Shy away : the evidence is there. Some guys are what they are and Josh is an Excellent Offensive Coordinator.
Agreed! He's best suited where he is now. Because he's essentially making HC salary and defacto assitant coach to Vrabel in a sense..
 
I think it would be asinine for him to take that job.. Murray is on the trade block likely and Jacoby Brissett is the starting QB.. Josh really should resist another HC opportunity so soon..and weigh all his options.
There's no way he takes that job. Zero point zero chance.
 
Agreed! He's best suited where he is now. Because he's essentially making HC salary and defacto assitant coach to Vrabel in a sense..
Josh McDaniels had the Best Training on how to run a Organization. Him coming from the BB/Brady Dynasty and still couldn't replicate it in two places...what does that tell you??
 
Brady would probably know if Josh is looking for another HC job now or not but in a way it's funny that he is probably paying Josh to be OC for the New England Patriots...that's if all team owners pay the coaches salaries.
 
Josh McDaniels as a HC is criminal: I feel for the organization that makes that mistake. There's too much moving parts when ones running the ship it's not for everybody. Regarding McDaniels as a HC: Twice Bitten Trice Shy away : the evidence is there. Some guys are what they are and Josh is an Excellent Offensive Coordinator.
Yeah but look around. The success rate on HC hired is very low.
How many of the last 100 HC hires won a SB? I don’t know the answer but it’s not a lot.
So if you are picking a guy in a high failure rate position, a guy who failed in a different situation but may have learned from it and is someone yuh believe has the right skills and attitude such a crazy hire.
Kevin Stefanski failed in Cleveland and everyone is pimping him. .
 
Calling this speculation is kind. Nothing more than two guys milking a segment for a few more clicks.

 
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Yeah but look around. The success rate on HC hired is very low.
How many of the last 100 HC hires won a SB? I don’t know the answer but it’s not a lot.
So if you are picking a guy in a high failure rate position, a guy who failed in a different situation but may have learned from it and is someone yuh believe has the right skills and attitude such a crazy hire.
Kevin Stefanski failed in Cleveland and everyone is pimping him. .
The Coaching is drying up some because of age BB and Carroll... Reid will be next. Stefanski - Harbaugh and Daboll should get jobs easily. Somebody might give Kliff Kingsbury another chance. Gotta think Brian Flores and Spags from KC deserve a Coaching shot: even Joe Brady from Buffalo.
 
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Josh has a nest egg of at least $30m, guaranteed to grow to at least $40m over the next 2 years. Probably closer to $50m if he’s had a good financial advisor, which I suspect he does. If he continues as an OC for another 8-10 years, his $50m will grow to $80m, and he can retire with $5-8m per year income off interest. That’s if he stays put.

If he were to fly the coop for a 5 yr deal @ say $12m/yr, the diff is about $28m gross, or roughly $16m after taxes.

In other words, does he make a move like that in order to increase his net worth from $80m to $95m? I would say from a financial motivation standpoint, he wouldn’t. He’s already got the sweetest setup imaginable.

Can you briefly explain where that number comes from?
 
Can you briefly explain where that number comes from?
The $30m? Over 25 years he has grossed $8m from his Denver contract and $40m so far from his LV contract. Plus say $2m from OC contracts. Total of $50m. He took home probably $30m after taxes, and I’m guessing that his living expenses have been maybe $10m. Then you assume $10m appreciation from investments.
 
The Coaching is drying up some because of age BB and Carroll... Reid will be next. Stefanski - Harbaugh and Daboll should get jobs easily. Somebody might give Kliff Kingsbury another chance. Gotta think Brian Flores and Spags from KC deserve a Coaching shot: even Joe Brady from Buffalo.
McDaniels is a better candidate than Daboll kingsbury or spagnoka
Brady is a shot on the dark very likely to fail.
Stefanski is not a better candidate than McD. Both failed as HCs, McD has a better track record with offenses and QBs.
 
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