Player Signing Patriots Extend Ben Brown

[Zuma]

How long before we consider that our best left side for the future may be Lowe-Campbell-Wilson, with Munford and Brown as backups?

Negative. If we are talking current roster for the future: Campbell, Brown, Wilson, Onwenu, Munford

 

[p8ryts]

Negative. If we are talking current roster for the future: Campbell, Brown, Wilson, Onwenu, Munford

Taking a chance. Maybe add some new blood with some pedigree.

 

[Zuma]

Taking a chance. Maybe add some new blood with some pedigree.

Oh this is a fact. For the future we should focus on RT...and then go from there.

 

[mgteich]

Negative. If we are talking current roster for the future: Campbell, Brown, Wilson, Onwenu, Munford

I have no reason to believe that Munford will replace Moses for 2026. Is he really a top starter we got off the scrap heap?

In any case, isn't Munford a free agent, as is Lowe?

If Vrabel is ready to start Brown, then fine. We simply need to acquire backup OG or even a veteran starter (probably the best idea).
OT: Campbell, Moses, Munford, (Bryant)
OG: ???, Brown, Onwenu (or top replacement)
OC: Wilson, (Bradbury)
with others to be added to compete for positions.

 

[Zuma]

I have no reason to believe that Munford will replace Moses for 2026. Is he really a top starter we got off the scrap heap?

In any case, isn't Munford a free agent, as is Lowe?

If Vrabel is ready to start Brown, then fine. We simply need to acquire backup OG or even a veteran starter (probably the best idea).
OT: Campbell, Moses, Munford, (Bryant)
OG: ???, Brown, Onwenu (or top replacement)
OC: Wilson, (Bradbury)
with others to be added to compete for positions.

The question was regarding existing personnel for the future. You failed reading comp. Of cource Munford / Moses should be upgraded. We have a few of those.

 

[p8ryts]

I have no reason to believe that Munford will replace Moses for 2026. Is he really a top starter we got off the scrap heap?

In any case, isn't Munford a free agent, as is Lowe?

If Vrabel is ready to start Brown, then fine. We simply need to acquire backup OG or even a veteran starter (probably the best idea).
OT: Campbell, Moses, Munford, (Bryant)
OG: ???, Brown, Onwenu (or top replacement)
OC: Wilson, (Bradbury)
with others to be added to compete for positions.

Unless Bryant is injured, he seems to have slid into oblivion with Munford clearly the top RT and 6/7th lineman. It appears we can't count on him.

 

[mgteich]

The question was regarding existing personnel for the future. You failed reading comp. Of cource Munford / Moses should be upgraded. We have a few of those.

The 3rd and 4th year of Maye's contract are an important part of the future. Resources are limited. I do NOT agree that there is a high priority to replace Moses.
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For me, LG is much, much more serious. If Brown is the starter and Wilson is the starter at C, it is not at all clear that LG/C isn't a top need for at least one MAJOR addition.

BTW, I really liked the extension of Brown.

 

[DaBruinz]

How long before we consider that our best left side for the future may be Lowe-Campbell-Wilson, with Munford and Brown as backups?

*ROFLMAO* You love pulling garbage out of your rear end that makes ZERO sense.

Lowe is NOT better than Campbell at LT. Lowe is a UFA and will get 12-18M/yr for 4 years from some team needing a starting LT. Thinking that the Pats would screw up the left=side by moving Campbell in is just you throwing s**t at the wall to see if it sticks.

Munford may be one of TWO OT back-ups. Teams typically carry 4 OTs and have some OG who could also be moved out to OT in a pinch.

 

[DaBruinz]

Unless Bryant is injured, he seems to have slid into oblivion with Munford clearly the top RT and 6/7th lineman. It appears we can't count on him.

Munford is a 4 year vet in the league and Bryant is a Rookie. Munford has served in Jumbo packages prior to signing with the Pats. Bryant had not. You're making assumptions that are contradicted by Vrabel's own statements on the subject.

 

[DaBruinz]

The 3rd and 4th year of Maye's contract are an important part of the future. Resources are limited. I do NOT agree that there is a high priority to replace Moses.
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For me, LG is much, much more serious. If Brown is the starter and Wilson is the starter at C, it is not at all clear that LG/C isn't a top need for at least one MAJOR addition.

BTW, I really liked the extension of Brown.

You also don't believe that replacing the Center is a high priority. So, you'll forgive everyone if we have ZERO confidence that you know what you are talking about.

 

[mgteich]

*ROFLMAO* You love pulling garbage out of your rear end that makes ZERO sense.

Lowe is NOT better than Campbell at LT. Lowe is a UFA and will get 12-18M/yr for 4 years from some team needing a starting LT. Thinking that the Pats would screw up the left=side by moving Campbell in is just you throwing s**t at the wall to see if it sticks.

Munford may be one of TWO OT back-ups. Teams typically carry 4 OTs and have some OG who could also be moved out to OT in a pinch.

I do understand that English is your second or third language, but I do not consider Lowe anything but an average at best starting LT and one nowhere as good as Campbell.

I congratulate the team on the success that we have had with Campbell at LT and Wilson at LG. I'm sure that many posters think that because of this success that they should play these positions for the indefinite future, even if they might be better at other postions.
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Who is your 2026 LG?
Should Wilson be our future C, or we just relegate him to being a future backup, competing with Brown for reps.?
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[ctpatsfan77]

I do understand that English is your second or third language, but I do not consider Lowe anything but an average at best starting LT and one nowhere as good as Campbell.

And yet you wrote this:

How long before we consider that our best left side for the future may be Lowe-Campbell-Wilson, with Munford and Brown as backups?

 

[DaBruinz]

I do understand that English is your second or third language, but I do not consider Lowe anything but an average at best starting LT and one nowhere as good as Campbell.

I congratulate the team on the success that we have had with Campbell at LT and Wilson at LG. I'm sure that many posters think that because of this success that they should play these positions for the indefinite future, even if they might be better at other postions.
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Who is your 2026 LG?
Should Wilson be our future C, or we just relegate him to being a future backup, competing with Brown for reps.?
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You're clearly projecting your inadequacies onto others, MG. YOU are the one who has the reading comprehension issues that show English is not your first language. You're also a pathetic liar. YOU are the one who claimed that LOWE being the LT and moving Campbell to LG would be "our best left side for the Future".

You continue to show everyone you're clueless about the game despite having been on this board for for 20+ years.

I've already answered your questions. If you had a modicum of intelligence, you wouldn't even be asking them because I've already stated what I think the Pats should do numerous times.

 

[Clonamery]

I do understand
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I doubt that.

 

[p8ryts]

The 3rd and 4th year of Maye's contract are an important part of the future. Resources are limited. I do NOT agree that there is a high priority to replace Moses.
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For me, LG is much, much more serious. If Brown is the starter and Wilson is the starter at C, it is not at all clear that LG/C isn't a top need for at least one MAJOR addition.

BTW, I really liked the extension of Brown.

Two players I didn't care for at the beginning of the year have won me over. Brown and Hawkins. I'm okay with Brown signing as a backup. I still want better players at those positions.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Two players I didn't care for at the beginning of the year have won me over. Brown and Hawkins. I'm okay with Brown signing as a backup. I still want better players at those positions.

Elliss too.

 

[mgteich]

And yet you wrote this:

I did
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For 2026-2028, I suggested that

Lowe-Campbell-Wilson MIGHT be preferred over

Campbell-Brown-Wilson
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As is often the case, my starting a conversation on a slow day led to chaos.
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To be clear, as is probably the case for almost all of us, I look for Vrabel to TRY to sign a top young OL for the left side. That worked out so well in the past.

 

[mgteich]

Brown is a solid back up who can play multiple positions including TE on jumbo packages. A good depth signing.

I strongly agree. I think that some posters believe that we have found our starting LG.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

For 2026-2028, I suggested that

Lowe-Campbell-Wilson MIGHT be preferred over

Campbell-Brown-Wilson
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As is often the case, my starting a conversation on a slow day led to chaos.

A. Words matter. "How long before we consider that . . ." is not going to be received the same way as, say, "If they can't upgrade at LG this offseason, do you think . . ." [See all the grief Randy Moss got for "when I want to play" when context makes it clear he meant "because I want to play."]

B. Given your comments about Lowe v. Campbell above, you are implicitly taking the Bedard position that, despite Campbell's performance at LT as a rookie, his "true" position is guard.

If you want people to take that seriously, you need to offer *some* justification for it. [Which Bedard did *not* do when he floated that Campbell had HOF potential at LG a couple of weeks ago.] That is, *why* does moving him to LG justify the downgrade at the more important position of LT?

 

[mgteich]

A. Words matter. "How long before we consider that . . ." is not going to be received the same way as, say, "If they can't upgrade at LG this offseason, do you think . . ." [See all the grief Randy Moss got for "when I want to play" when context makes it clear he meant "because I want to play."]

B. Given your comments about Lowe v. Campbell above, you are implicitly taking the Bedard position that, despite Campbell's performance at LT as a rookie, his "true" position is guard.

If you want people to take that seriously, you need to offer *some* justification for it. [Which Bedard did *not* do when he floated that Campbell had HOF potential at LG a couple of weeks ago.] That is, *why* does moving him to LG justify the downgrade at the more important position of LT?

fair enough
1)I think that Campbell will be a top 10 LT or a top 10 LG. I don't know which or really care all that much. That is a decision for the coaches.

2) I do have an opinion regarding Wilson. One more year at LG and he likely will be a mediocre starter at best. He has lost a year at center and we all HOPE that he will be out center for the next decade. Of course some want us to sign a top center and keep Wilson at LG.

3) Perhaps the team thinks that they have found at starter in Brown at LG. If so, we are all set for starters on the left side. We just have scrubs for backups and need to sign them next year.

My sneaky feeling is that Brown is a great signing, an inexpensive backup at LG, C, RG, 6th OL and even blocking TE. That kind of flexibility is enormously valuable on Game Day. Extend Munford and we will have two solid active backups for Game Day.

4) As was the case last year, we need to find a starting LG. However, now we have a backup as a fallback.