NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Week 16: Rams-Sea, Chi-GB, Buf-Cle, Jax-Den, Pitt-Det, 49ers-Colts

[neuronet]

Which one? There were two that were insane…

I was referring to the first one that nobody noticed was an actual conversion at first. It was bonkers.

 

[farn]

There is no clear cut fav : which is why every team in the playoffs needs to consider the SB "winnable" (maybe a few exceptions like the winners of the NFC South or AFC Central).

 

[BTTA]

Strange game. Seahawks offense is dreadful, and the D gave up 250 years, but easily could be up if Cooper doesn't cough it up. Can you say the Seahawks D looks good despite all those yards? Seem pretty darn good to me.

To be fair to them, the single wing offense hadn't even been invented yet. What's a forward pass?

 

[Tunescribe]

reading all your posts makes me wish i had not fallen asleep

I ALMOST went to bed when the Rams were up, having caught my wife's cold. Al Michaels' sleepy delivery wasn't helping any. Glad I stuck it out.

 

[raduray]

That Rams Seahawks game was one of the most entertaining game I've seen. And that crazy two point conversion, Wow!

 

[Borg140]

Unreal. This game will haunt the rams for a while, never should have lost control of it

I still believe the Rams will be in the SB. And I still think Darnold turns back into a pumpkin in the playoffs.

 

[PatsFan2]

That Rams Seahawks game was one of the most entertaining game I've seen. And that crazy two point conversion, Wow!

I feel this weeks' Game Broncos vs Jaguars could be a similar close game. Which have implications for us.

 

[Kargetina]

As far as i'm concerned, going for a two-point conversion, will always be the right decision, if the conversion wins you the game.

On one hand, you have your fate in your hands, you need one play, you need two yards, if you convert it, you win the game. On the other hand, if you tie the game, and there's time left, all you do if pray that the opposing team doesn't gain 25-30 yards, which is all the Rams would have needed even with a touchback.

If it's at the end of regulation; you're betting that the probability of converting one play is lesser than the uncertainty of a coin toss, and at least two unpredictable drives, where anything can happen, and you control very little of your destiny.

Here are two examples in recent playoffs, where not going for it probably decided the Super Bowl winner that year. The first is the ''13 second'' Bills-Chiefs game. The Bills were up 35-33, and instead of effectively killing the game with a conversion, they kicked the XP, which still left chances for the Chiefs. Even if you miss the conversion, you still only need to hold on for 13 seconds. Basically, you either win the game on the spot, with no risk, or you have stop them for 13 seconds. They managed neither, and still lost the game in OT.

The second game is the Rams vs the Bucs in 2022. The Bucs made it 27-26 with 40 seconds to go with the Rams having two time outs. Considering how shocked the Rams were, a two point conversion leaves the Bucs 40 seconds from a win, instead of letting the Rams of the hook, where they had OT in their pocket, and a free chance to try to win it in regulation with no risks. Had they been put into a do-or-die situation, where the Bucs know with certainty that the Rams are not going to settle for a tie and play defense accordingly, they would have had a tremendous psychological advantage from being down 24 to suddenly leading with less than a minute remaining.

It's simply a matter of believing your offense can make one play on cue vs your defense making at least three or four consecutive stops and your offense making at least seven or eight of them. When the Seahawks got picked by Butler, Chris Collinsworth said ''If i lose a Super Bowl because Marshawn Lynch can't get it from the one yard line, so be it. So be it!.'' It's the same thing here. If you try to win and you lose because you can't convert a two yard pass/run, so be it. Considering the historical rate of success is around 50%, it's not even that big of a risk.

 

[Gumby]

reading all your posts makes me wish i had not fallen asleep

I fell asleep waiting for others to post while watching pregame & then woke up to see 2d half & OT. Got all the fireworks lol

Paying the price now ….after work & at home. Need a Fri eve nap. But have to get car ready for Sat tree hunting & killing.

 

[Uptown]

Hell of a throw

 

[TommyD4207]

Hell of a throw

I mean, that's why he went in the top 5.

 

[TheRainMaker]

49ers are going to win out and claim the #1 seed out of nowhere. Rams choked. I'm glad Darnold came through and won that game as he's had a really hard time winning meaningful games.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Who else was glad the Seahawks went for two to end the game?

By the way, what was with the Oregon Ducks inspired uniforms? Awful.

 

[Tunescribe]

Root for Washington to win tonight so next week's game at Prairie Cows means something for the Beagles.

 

[farn]

Philly is a disappointing team. Three years in a row, full of talent, and they only get one good year…

 

[ScottishPatriots]

Finally they call a false start on the tush push, the ref should just throw a flag every time they run it.

 

[farn]

Finally they call a false start on the tush push, the ref should just throw a flag every time they run it.

Hardly sure why Philly waiting so long before snapping the ball. You have the QB legs & the OL strength. Go.

 

[Gumby]

Does Mariotta not know he was supposed to shave that stash when the month was over?

 

[Gumby]

What is with all these OL standing around and waving arms?

 

[Gumby]

What is with all these OL standing around and waving arms?

An NFL lineman must be set for at least one full second before the ball is snapped, meaning all offensive players, especially those on the line, must be completely motionless after any shifts or movements before the center can hike the ball; failure to do so after a shift is an illegal shift, and any quick, jerky motion simulating the snap is a false start.

The Philly RG should be getting called for illegal shift Ror procedure routinely here.

Good they missed the kick. Some karma