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Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Don't believe it;
We'll see when the injured players play.

Spencer Brown will likely be back

But don't be surprised if we don't see Josh Palmer, Joey Bosa and Terrel Bernard.

The Bills play the Browns and Eagles in the following weeks, and I bet you all 3 of them will be back for that.
 
It's going to be tough. We got several huge breaks in the first one. We're going to have to be much better in the run game, and Allen is in playoff mode - meaning, he can destroy a game by running if he wants to. I hope they let Elliss loose, we need a fast LB to make Allen pay for trying to be superman.
 
going to be difficult esp beating the same team twice. lets hope they do. They are going to try to take away the rollouts from maye which basically killed them and cook vs our D without milton williams will be a huge challenge. I think buffalo will replicate their Steelers game plan and come out and run run run and we have be suspect against outside runs.
 
New England favored by 1.5. Certainly not a shock, but means Buffalo favored on a neutral field. Apparently people don’t fear coming to Foxborough. Time to change that
The fear is earned, and a win Sunday goes a long way toward earning it.
 
The Patriots are a better team defensively than they were when they last played. I would say offensively as well, Maye has seen more and adapted game to game.

The Bills, they have not. Thats what this game is all about. The Patriots have no reason to lose to the Bills this time around either.
 
I think the Bills still have a lot more pressure on them than the Pats.
We just can't give them a fast start. We have to force Josh into some early mistakes, because I hope our D is more prepared to withstand the 4th Qtr onslaught than the Bengals were.
 
The bills can't generate pressure without Oliver & especially if Bosa doesn't play either. Their secondary is pretty good but they lack speed in the middle of their defense. The pats should be able to score in the high 20s.

Offensively, the bills have the worst outside WRs in the NFL. They've been inconsistent due to their lack of weapons and the pats should have an aggressive gameplan on defense. Don't be afraid to blitz Allen and force him to get the ball out quick. He burns teams when he extends the play. I want to see them adjust this game with Davis or Gonzalez covering Kincaid.

The pats are more talented than the bills. They have zero all-pros on their roster. Their OL used to be in contention for best in the NFL but they've regressed as Allen's been sacked 31 times as opposed to 14 last year. While this game should be close I like the pats as they have more firepower offensively & should be able to contain Cook.
 
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I think the Bills still have a lot more pressure on them than the Pats.
We just can't give them a fast start. We have to force Josh into some early mistakes, because I hope our D is more prepared to withstand the 4th Qtr onslaught than the Bengals were.
In general (not just this game), this should be the most pressure that they have on them. It is looking like there will be no Mahomes, Burrow, or Jackson in the postseason. The field is full of second year QB's, CJ Stroud and Trevor Lawrence. They have Allen.

All this to say....if Buffalo can't get to the SB this season. Well....it probably won't happen. Time is running out on them.
 
It's going to be tough. We got several huge breaks in the first one. We're going to have to be much better in the run game, and Allen is in playoff mode - meaning, he can destroy a game by running if he wants to. I hope they let Elliss loose, we need a fast LB to make Allen pay for trying to be superman.

While it is true we did need a 3-1 turnover advantage, we’re a much better team now on both sides of the ball. Plus this one is at home. Other than that game , The bills have not lost at buffalo in the regular season for over 2 calendar years now while they have had many ugly performances on the road. Its a huge advantage for this go around
 
It's going to be tough. We got several huge breaks in the first one. We're going to have to be much better in the run game, and Allen is in playoff mode - meaning, he can destroy a game by running if he wants to. I hope they let Elliss loose, we need a fast LB to make Allen pay for trying to be superman.

While it is true we did need a 3-1 turnover advantage, we’re a much better team now on both sides of the ball. Plus this one is at home. Other than that game , The bills have not lost at buffalo in the regular season for over 2 calendar years now while they have had many ugly performances on the road. Its a huge advantage for this go around
We gave the ball away 2x and took it away 2x.. Henry got held- no call on the sure fire TD at the end of the half... the Patriots are the motivated, Hungry and tired of losing.. they have had adversity in plenty of games this season and have shown growth and championship traits that past patriots teams possessed...

Oh and for anyone worried about the lack of a running game...


 
We gave the ball away 2x and took it away 2x.. Henry got held- no call on the sure fire TD at the end of the half... the Patriots are the motivated, Hungry and tired of losing.. they have had adversity in plenty of games this season and have shown growth and championship traits that past patriots teams possessed...

Oh and for anyone worried about the lack of a running game...



I only remember Rham’s fumble for our giveaway and we forced 3 turnovers- 2 fumbles (one near midfield, one in their red zone) and Allen threw a pick. I feel alot better about this matchup though unless Tonga is out again. I think hes playing though and we were conservative with him vs nyg. Thatll be huge for our run d
 
I only remember Rham’s fumble for our giveaway and we forced 3 turnovers- 2 fumbles (one near midfield, one in their red zone) and Allen threw a pick. I feel alot better about this matchup though unless Tonga is out again. I think hes playing though and we were conservative with him vs nyg. Thatll be huge for our run d
Gibson when his knee got blown out on the punt return..... he fumbled. Tonga was back at practice today as was Wilson.. believe Tonga was kept out the Giants game to allow for extra rest... Vrabel's giving him the veteran treatment likely.. he's our version of Nhagta..

Tonga is needed.. agreed however as mentioned Durden, Gregory, farmer all have played well and will need to continue to play well.. they were firing off the ball and playing the run well last game.. also 13 weeks of grueling NFL season I'd expect guys to come back recharged out the bye.. need to win and get the division in hand and not give Buffalo any more rope.
 
Gibson when his knee got blown out on the punt return..... he fumbled. Tonga was back at practice today as was Wilson.. believe Tonga was kept out the Giants game to allow for extra rest... Vrabel's giving him the veteran treatment likely.. he's our version of Nhagta..

Tonga is needed.. agreed however as mentioned Durden, Gregory, farmer all have played well and will need to continue to play well.. they were firing off the ball and playing the run well last game.. also 13 weeks of grueling NFL season I'd expect guys to come back recharged out the bye.. need to win and get the division in hand and not give Buffalo any more rope.

We recovered the Gibson fumble though thankfully so wasn’t a giveaway. I think durden and gregory have filled in admirably but without milton we sorely need tonga, dudes such a force in the middle. It was good to get farmer back too, i feel okay with barmore, tonga, farmer , durden, gregory.

I really hope buffalo plays it conservative with bosa’s injury. That kinda ties in with our past conversation about buffalo winning yesterday maybe being a good thing for this matchup and allowing them to not rush guys back with a playoff spot all but locked up.
 
The bills can't generate pressure without Oliver & especially if Bosa doesn't play either. Their secondary is pretty good but they lack speed in the middle of their defense. The pats should be able to score in the high 20s.

Offensively, the bills have the worst outside WRs in the NFL. They've been inconsistent due to their lack of weapons and the pats should have an aggressive gameplan on defense. Don't be afraid to blitz Allen and force him to get the ball out quick. He burns teams when he extends the play. I want to see them adjust this game with Davis or Gonzalez covering Kincaid.

The pats are more talented than the bills. They have zero all-pros on their roster. Their OL used to be in contention for best in the NFL but they've regressed as Allen's been sacked 31 times as opposed to 14 last year. While this game should be close I like the pats as they have more firepower offensively & should be able to contain Cook.
The best approach to rushing Allen is approach cautiously, keep him contained. All his long runs are off tackle where the DE blows past him. Give him all the time he wants back there, just don't let him get through. Their WR's aren't great at all, their best weapons by far are a RB and TE.
 
We recovered the Gibson fumble though thankfully so wasn’t a giveaway. I think durden and gregory have filled in admirably but without milton we sorely need tonga, dudes such a force in the middle. It was good to get farmer back too, i feel okay with barmore, tonga, farmer , durden, gregory.

I really hope buffalo plays it conservative with bosa’s injury. That kinda ties in with our past conversation about buffalo winning yesterday maybe being a good thing for this matchup and allowing them to not rush guys back with a playoff spot all but locked up.
Your right just thought of that in my reply to your post.. I believe it was rham right? Both TOs? Milt absolutely is missed.. but the way guys have filled in and done well
.Also don't forget about Ponder..he's played well as of late.. yes.. I felt it's actually a positive that Buffalo wins.. they know baring a serious drop off that we are in position to win the division.. they may be content with the 2nd spot?
 
Your right just thought of that in my reply to your post.. I believe it was rham right? Both TOs? Milt absolutely is missed.. but the way guys have filled in and done well
.Also don't forget about Ponder..he's played well as of late.. yes.. I felt it's actually a positive that Buffalo wins.. they know baring a serious drop off that we are in position to win the division.. they may be content with the 2nd spot?

We only had one giveaway in that game, Rham’s fumble. Ponder has given us much needed help off the edge, id love if that continues
 
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