PostGame Thread 2025 OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots improve to 9-2 with win over NYJ

[dliverey44]

What I wouldn't give to hear "How do you feel about another Patriots Victoree?" Awwwwwwwwwwwwww Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dliverey44]

Change the way Maye works for the #5 WR?

No, stick to crossers, posts. Routes that do not require the ball to be thrown prior to making the cut. Maye already does this

 

[Zuma]

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Very good team

2019: 8

 

[TheRainMaker]

The Bungles defense is pathetic. tunscribe futile.

The Pats should able to rush or pass at will and build up a lead that makes Cincinnati 1 dimensional.

I sure hope so. Flacco always makes me nervous.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

I sure hope so. Flacco always makes me nervous.

He seems to always play well against us.

 

[BobDigital]

All true.
However.....
I believe Mahomes and the Chiefs are much like us with Brady. Can look bad, can be written off, but eventually will right the ship.
I also have no faith in Denver's O. Watched them more than enough this year to know they aren't very good, and Nix can look really bad for long stretches.
I would luv a Denver win and to see KC miss the playoffs entirely, but I just can't see it happening.
31-17 KC, something to that effect.
Could be wrong, hope I am.

Neither result would surprise me. KC's D which has rightly been criticized for taking a bit of a step back is still seemingly doing good. Yeah, they are a little slower. Chris Jones in particular doesn't look at dominant as he once was. But they are still....

#6 in YPA, #4 in PPG. So they are certainly doing something right. But when you look at specifics it is hard to say what exactly.

They are not great at turning the ball over. Their defensive passer rating is middle of the pack. In part cause they allow a 70% completion rate and 7 YPA. Their run D YPA is 4.3. Again middle of the pack. So while they aren't giving up yards are points. On a per play basis they are not particularly good at stopping the run or the pass. So why the high overall marks? A few reasons.

#1 KC has turned the ball over 5 times all year. Good for second best. Their offense holds on to the ball and doesn't put their D in bad situations.

#2 Their time of possession is one of the better ones in the NFL. Even though it is only 31:42 a game. That is good for 5th best. And just taking away that extra 1:42 from their O means less plays, yards and points.

#3 Their kick/punt game is solid. They rarely allow teams to start beyond the 35. When they do it is usually due to downs/turnovers/missed FG. Sometimes they allow a bad return. But luckily for them when they have they are at opportune times usually and against weak opponents. I am not saying they are the best in the league in the punt/kicker game. I don't think they are and I haven't found a metric on it. But they don't typically allow that to shoot them in the foot.

So when you look a little closer at it, yeah. KC's D this year regardless of the numbers is not all that good. Still better than average i think. But the O and special teams are letting them play on easy mode. And we need to keep in mind they have played some good offenses. So yeah.

I'm not about to go through a deep dive of every metric. But going by some very minor research and eye balling it. They seem like a top 10 D still... near the bottom of that top 10 list though.

Who do i like when it comes to KC vs DEN? Don't know. But even at 5-5 I still have KC making the playoffs from that point. Whose going to keep them out? Jags? Pitt/Ravens? Personally i think the Jags are mid at best... 9-8 at best. They can upset a good team on occasion, but they aren't consistent. Their QB is below average. Their D is mid at best. They will not finish ahead of KC.

So that leaves Ravens/Pitt. They still need to play each other twice. I don't know for sure who makes it in. But neither is impressive so i don't think one roles the other and wins both games. A split is best case scenario for KC. And both have tough schedules.

At worst KC finishes tied with someone else and wins the tie breaker. Why do they win the tie breaker? IDK. Cause they are KC, and KC has always been lucky. It will break their way.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Pats did not turn the ball over. They need to keep this habit up, including when some of the banged up guys return. And they need to continue this focus at home, where it looks like they'll host at least one playoff game.

 

[TheRainMaker]

He seems to always play well against us.

5 of his 6 losses against the Pats were only one score games. He's always been a pain in the ass.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Nothing further to add than what everyone else said. Game seemed a little too close for comfort until the end, but I was ready for it as a TNF Divisional game.

I can see Maye's 1st 300yd game being against the Bengals, unless the Pats' defense really is that good and shuts Chase/Higgins down.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Nothing further to add than what everyone else said. Game seemed a little too close for comfort until the end, but I was ready for it as a TNF Divisional game.

I can see Maye's 1st 300yd game being against the Bengals, unless the Pats' defense really is that good and shuts Chase/Higgins down.

Drake is in his second NFL season.

He is and will continue to grow, and each game is a managing, learning experience.

As in Brady and Grogan's sophomore years, there will be some impressive numbers but the only important statistic is winning the game.

 

[Vindicate]

The Bungles defense is pathetic. tunscribe futile.

The Pats should able to rush or pass at will and build up a lead that makes Cincinnati 1 dimensional.

I've been beating this drum a bit and I'll do it here: the Bengals are the most "trap" game of the season and it isn't even close.

If their defense decides to have one kinda bad game, and not a "worst defense in history", they are a threat. In the 4 games with Flacco they've scored 133 points and had around 1200+ yards.

The Bengals offense of the past two seasons can be actually insane. They've just somehow been overshadowed by what most veteran Bengals fans would describe as not just the worst Bengals defense they've seen, the actual worst defense in history.

 

[rochrist]

Neither result would surprise me. KC's D which has rightly been criticized for taking a bit of a step back is still seemingly doing good. Yeah, they are a little slower. Chris Jones in particular doesn't look at dominant as he once was. But they are still....

#6 in YPA, #4 in PPG. So they are certainly doing something right. But when you look at specifics it is hard to say what exactly.

They are not great at turning the ball over. Their defensive passer rating is middle of the pack. In part cause they allow a 70% completion rate and 7 YPA. Their run D YPA is 4.3. Again middle of the pack. So while they aren't giving up yards are points. On a per play basis they are not particularly good at stopping the run or the pass. So why the high overall marks? A few reasons.

#1 KC has turned the ball over 5 times all year. Good for second best. Their offense holds on to the ball and doesn't put their D in bad situations.

#2 Their time of possession is one of the better ones in the NFL. Even though it is only 31:42 a game. That is good for 5th best. And just taking away that extra 1:42 from their O means less plays, yards and points.

#3 Their kick/punt game is solid. They rarely allow teams to start beyond the 35. When they do it is usually due to downs/turnovers/missed FG. Sometimes they allow a bad return. But luckily for them when they have they are at opportune times usually and against weak opponents. I am not saying they are the best in the league in the punt/kicker game. I don't think they are and I haven't found a metric on it. But they don't typically allow that to shoot them in the foot.

So when you look a little closer at it, yeah. KC's D this year regardless of the numbers is not all that good. Still better than average i think. But the O and special teams are letting them play on easy mode. And we need to keep in mind they have played some good offenses. So yeah.

I'm not about to go through a deep dive of every metric. But going by some very minor research and eye balling it. They seem like a top 10 D still... near the bottom of that top 10 list though.

Who do i like when it comes to KC vs DEN? Don't know. But even at 5-5 I still have KC making the playoffs from that point. Whose going to keep them out? Jags? Pitt/Ravens? Personally i think the Jags are mid at best... 9-8 at best. They can upset a good team on occasion, but they aren't consistent. Their QB is below average. Their D is mid at best. They will not finish ahead of KC.

So that leaves Ravens/Pitt. They still need to play each other twice. I don't know for sure who makes it in. But neither is impressive so i don't think one roles the other and wins both games. A split is best case scenario for KC. And both have tough schedules.

At worst KC finishes tied with someone else and wins the tie breaker. Why do they win the tie breaker? IDK. Cause they are KC, and KC has always been lucky. It will break their way.

I just want them to finish in a position that means we don't play them in the first round.

 

[patfanken]

Neither result would surprise me. KC's D which has rightly been criticized for taking a bit of a step back is still seemingly doing good. Yeah, they are a little slower. Chris Jones in particular doesn't look at dominant as he once was. But they are still....

#6 in YPA, #4 in PPG. So they are certainly doing something right. But when you look at specifics it is hard to say what exactly.

They are not great at turning the ball over. Their defensive passer rating is middle of the pack. In part cause they allow a 70% completion rate and 7 YPA. Their run D YPA is 4.3. Again middle of the pack. So while they aren't giving up yards are points. On a per play basis they are not particularly good at stopping the run or the pass. So why the high overall marks? A few reasons.

#1 KC has turned the ball over 5 times all year. Good for second best. Their offense holds on to the ball and doesn't put their D in bad situations.

#2 Their time of possession is one of the better ones in the NFL. Even though it is only 31:42 a game. That is good for 5th best. And just taking away that extra 1:42 from their O means less plays, yards and points.

#3 Their kick/punt game is solid. They rarely allow teams to start beyond the 35. When they do it is usually due to downs/turnovers/missed FG. Sometimes they allow a bad return. But luckily for them when they have they are at opportune times usually and against weak opponents. I am not saying they are the best in the league in the punt/kicker game. I don't think they are and I haven't found a metric on it. But they don't typically allow that to shoot them in the foot.

So when you look a little closer at it, yeah. KC's D this year regardless of the numbers is not all that good. Still better than average i think. But the O and special teams are letting them play on easy mode. And we need to keep in mind they have played some good offenses. So yeah.

I'm not about to go through a deep dive of every metric. But going by some very minor research and eye balling it. They seem like a top 10 D still... near the bottom of that top 10 list though.

Who do i like when it comes to KC vs DEN? Don't know. But even at 5-5 I still have KC making the playoffs from that point. Whose going to keep them out? Jags? Pitt/Ravens? Personally i think the Jags are mid at best... 9-8 at best. They can upset a good team on occasion, but they aren't consistent. Their QB is below average. Their D is mid at best. They will not finish ahead of KC.
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So that leaves Ravens/Pitt. They still need to play each other twice. I don't know for sure who makes it in. But neither is impressive so i don't think one roles the other and wins both games. A split is best case scenario for KC. And both have tough schedules.

At worst KC finishes tied with someone else and wins the tie breaker. Why do they win the tie breaker? IDK. Cause they are KC, and KC has always been lucky. It will break their way.

I can think of a team that went from 5-5 off a loss to a bye and a Superbowl Championship. So in my mind, it is WAY to early to be playing mental gymnastics about future playoff spots, seeds, and byes.

 

[mgteich]

It was interesting that Ben Brown was getting the extra OL reps rather than Bryant. That probably tells us something about the level of trust in those 2 backups and who the coaches think is better.

BTW, if Brown get injured on one of those plays, who comes in with the next injury at OG or C?

I would expect us to use Lowe or Bryant.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

KC can be had, but IMO, the best way to beat PM, is to bring heavy pressure (sound familiar?), which we aren't great at.
I think we win, but they have a ton of experience in big games, which I think helps... and of course they are the darlings of the refs...ok, I'm 1/2 kidding there....

 

[Uptown]

Who TF said we shouldn’t pay Gonzo?? He’s literally the best CB on the planet. ZERO TDs given up in 17 games. We’re also 8-0 since his return. Put the fentanyl & bath salts down..

 

[TommyD4207]

Who TF said we shouldn’t pay Gonzo?? He’s literally the best CB on the planet. ZERO TDs given up in 17 games. We’re also 8-0 since his return. Put the fentanyl & bath salts down..

On top of this, he's become a real tackler from the cornerback position.

Rare trait in a #1 corner.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

You forgot Asian GF?

 

[PScottman]

You've probably smoked me a couple times in Yankee

Haven't played in the Yankee region since 2007 (Chesapeake now) and am a setter (most tourneys). So consider this the no smoking section.