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Patriots Pregame Thread We are on to Tampa Bay: AFCE vs NFCS division leaders, 2025 Week 10

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Patriots WRs vs. Bucs Secondary - Edge New England
The Patriots’ passing game is going strength against strength again this week. The Bucs’ pass defense ranking is somewhat skewed from a yardage standpoint. Tampa’s pass defense is allowing 228.8 yards per game, which is 22nd in the league, but they are much better than that. The Bucs are seventh in total DVOA (sixth against the run, seventh against the pass).

As I mentioned earlier, in their past three games, the Bucs have garnered a total of 15 sacks. If there is one thing the Patriots have struggled with, it is giving up sacks. Vea can be a game wrecker on defense. The Buccaneers blitz frequently and consistently bring pressure, disguising their blitzes extremely well.

Will Campbell will be matched up with edge rusher Yaya Diaby who leads the team with 28 pressures along with four sacks.

Their secondary is elite, with boundary corners CB Jamel Dean and CB Zyon McCollum, with rookie Jacob Parrish in the slot. At safety, Antoine Winfield Jr. and Tykee Smith are an outstanding tandem.

Josh McDaniels will have to scheme up some rollouts for Maye to escape pressure and look for downfield openings. With Kayshon Boutte probably missing the next few games, it is time for Kyle Williams and Efton Chism (possibly) to show what they can do.

Getting the ball out quickly will be the game plan this week. That and cutting out turnovers which the Bucs’ defense thrive on.​
 
The key to the Tampa Bay Defense is their secondary. I don’t care what the rankings and advanced metrics say, this is the best secondary Drake Maye and the Patriots will see all year. It starts with Jamel Dean, the number 1 rated CB according to PFF. The 6’1”, 206-pound DB played at Auburn. He was selected by TB in the 2019 Draft with the 3rd (194) pick. His PFF grade is 90.7 #1, he has 24 Tackles, 1 sack, 1 QB Hit, 0 Hurries, 6 PBU’s, 3 INT, and 1 Forced Fumble. Antoine Winfield is Strong Safety. The 5’ 10”, 203-pound S played at Minnesota and was selected in the 2nd round (45) in the 2020 Draft by Tampa Bay. His PFF grade is 72.1 which is 17th amongst all safeties. On the season he has 41 Tackles, 1 Sack, 2 QB Hits, 4 Hurries, 1 INT, and a Forced Fumble. Tykee Smith plays the Free Safety. The 5’10” 205-pound Safety played at Georgia and was selected in the 2024 draft, 3rd round (90) by Tampa Bay. His PFF grade is 77.5, good for 6th. On the year he has 66 Tackles, and 2 sacks. Zyon McCollum is the RCB. The 6’2” 199 DB from Sam Houston State was selected in the 2022 draft, 5th round (157) by Tampa Bay. His PFF Grade is 73.7, good for 23rd. He has 42 Tackles on the season.

The Nickel Back is no slouch either. Jacob Parrish was a player I had my eye on in this year’s draft for the Patriots. The 5’10”, 198-pound DB ran a 4.38 40-yard-dash at the combine. The rookie was selected with Tampa’s 3rd Round (84) selection. His PFF grade is 67 good for 33rd amongst all CBs. He has 41 Tackles, 2 sacks, 1 QB Hit on the season. They will all blitz from anywhere. The worst ranked DB has 33 ranking! That is incredible. I suspect they will load the box and turn the Patriots into a one-dimensional team and allow their secondary to make plays. Another point is the high number of players the Bucs have drafted and developed. The secondary was all drafted by Tampa Bay.​
 
How about we go with 'timeless classic' movie? I'm thinking many of us would feel better about that and WTH, the kids still won't know what you were referencing


Don't know much about CPOE,
Don't know much ADOT,
Don't know much about EPA and SR,
Don't know much about nothing at all.

But I do know 7 and 7 makes 14,
And if you score more than the other team,
What a wonderful world this would be.

I see what you did there...
 
Here's my prediction: whoever scores first will win the game. In other words, I have no idea who's gonna win.

I just hope Drake doesn't clobbered. Between our O-line, their D-line, and Drake's aggro ways, that's a real possibility.

Aside from that, I'm looking ahead to a really good contest.
 
I expect Baker Mayfield and the offense to get a lift with the return of right tackle Luke Goedeke from a foot injury. Will that be enough to get Tampa Bay’s ground game going against the league’s toughest run defense? I’m not sure, but I’m hopeful. If Rachaad White and Sean Tucker can run for at least 80 yards I think that will provide enough balance on the offense – as long as Mayfield is sharp and rookies Emeka Egbuka and Tez Johnson show up big on Sunday. Johnson versus Carlton Davis III could be the biggest matchup of the game.

Defensively, Todd Bowles must pressure Drake Maye and rattle him. Maye is the second-most sacked QB in the league at 3.8 per game, while Bowles’ defense has averaged five sacks per game over the last three games, in addition to two takeaways per game over the last six games. If Tampa Bay’s defense can play as hard as it played in New Orleans that will help a Bucs offense that is trying to get back to prolific status after the bye week. It’s close, but it’s a win – and it should be a very entertaining game.

REYNOLDS’ GAME PREDICTION: Bucs 24, Patriots 21]/INDENT]​
 
Should be a tough game with Tampa Bay off a bye and it's in the heat. This will be another good test for NE.

Agree. This is a really good test of where they are at as a team. Hoping for a good game and a good showing.
 
Your point seems to be that since we will play no QB anywhere near as good as Josh Allen, we should win the rest of our games, except possibly for the game against BUF.
Not really. I was just trying to imply (with wishful thinking ) that I think Josh Allen is an overall better QB than Baker and if we could beat Josh Allen in Buffalo it's possible we could beat Baker Mayfield in Tampa. Got my fingers crossed with no Boutte though.
 
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I think Pats lose by 2 scores. Hot, Boutte is Maye’s binky, Stevenson the only RB who can pass block, Baker could very well complete 90% in the middle of the field against our zones.

Long as they win Thursday vs the Jets it won’t really matter.
 
I think Pats lose by 2 scores. Hot, Boutte is Maye’s binky, Stevenson the only RB who can pass block, Baker could very well complete 90% in the middle of the field against our zones.

Long as they win Thursday vs the Jets it won’t really matter.
The Buccaneers only score 24 points/game. The Pats have faced tougher defenses at Cleveland, Atlanta, and Buffalo and put points on the board. It will be close, but the Buccaneers will have a hard time scoring with all the injuries they have on their offensive line, receiving corps and the running back who is hurt.
 
In all his disheveled glory!
Saw a documentary in which he and his wife (not this woman) were sitting on a couch and he reared back and kicked her on camera.
 
I think Pats lose by 2 scores. Hot, Boutte is Maye’s binky, Stevenson the only RB who can pass block, Baker could very well complete 90% in the middle of the field against our zones.

Long as they win Thursday vs the Jets it won’t really matter.
The only way that occurs if the Pats beat themselves. Pats defense should give the Bucs a hard time without Godwin and Evans.
 
The Patriots announced that they've temporarily elevated RB D'Ernest Johnson and LB Darius Harris from the practice squad to the gameday roster.


Moreover - This is the second elevation of the year for both Johnson and Harris
 
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