NFL Trade Deadline Discourse

[imahobgoblin]

I know but we're desperate.

You are desperate because you are part of the Clown Show Posse. Its just what you do. Reality is that the Pats currently rank sixth over all in passing for the whole league. You clowns won't accept it.

 

[p8ryts]

Which is how some of us figured it was going to be anyway; though I had hoped for more from Kyle Williams...

I wonder how amenable Dawghouse would've been to re-negotiating i.e. reducing his contract in order to stay here; If he had been, then I would've kept him ahead of Weirdo Hollins.

It's hard to know who you are even talking about sometimes.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Yesterday, Vrabel said that the current record doesn't matter and they'll add people for long-term success. I don't think the team is signing a rental. I think it has to be someone who will be part of the team for several years.

There are still holes on the roster. If we can get a couple of veterans for cheap draft capital, I do hope the Patriots pursue some deadline deals.

Maybe an IOL to help bolster the run game, a safety to help with the deep pass protection, or a RB to take up the Gibson energy RB role.

A WR like an Olave or AJ Brown I think are probably pipe dreams, but if we could get one of those guys for a 3rd round pick or later, why not?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I don't want him to sign a rental.

As I've said before, if they're giving up a pick in the top half of the draft, it should be for a player who'll be under contract at least through next year. But I'd be fine with, say, a 6th/7th pick swap for a rental.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Bruh. They're winning games how they're playing now.
They're not going to change a goddamned thing.

So you're saying teams are going to continue to play 8+ men in the box half the time like they are now?

 

[Real fan 02]

Why is it so clear? Dont get me wrong I wanted to keep Bourne. But the staff who saw him day in and day out decided not to keep him. And one had to think that McDaniels would have fought to keep him knowing first hand the production they could possibly get. Was something going on with Bourne off the field? Did he say he wanted a trade? Did he just not give the effort they expected leading into the season? We will never know. And just like Jonnu who was productive before and after his visit to New England we cant assume that any production a player is having on one team they will have the same on another. Its funny to me how many people on this forum who said he was a jag when he was here now are saying we should have kept him.

KB wasn't really a factor all training camp and at one point was behind chism in the rep order. He got hurt and that pretty much sealed his fate. It was likely he was on the outside anyway. Love KB his energy and his affection for the NE area.

 

[dliverey44]

I am all for improving the roster, but some of the trade ideas I have seen here make me think that people have forgot that we are still in a rebuild. While thus far this team is looking good we can't forget this is Maye's 2nd year in a new system and the 1st year of Vrabel. Like I said I am for improving the roster, but I don't think we should give up a lot of our draft capital.

 

[Real fan 02]

I am all for improving the roster, but some of the trade ideas I have seen here make me think that people have forgot that we are still in a rebuild. While thus far this team is looking good we can't forget this is Maye's 2nd year in a new system and the 1st year of Vrabel. Like I said I am for improving the roster, but I don't think we should give up a lot of our draft capital.

Trades for LONG-TERM players are sensible. Not rentals.

 

[TommyD4207]

Trades for LONG-TERM players are sensible. Not rentals.

This, if you're trading for a 20-something with some years left on their contract, then you consider it.
If it's a 30-something who's a free agent at the end of the year, you don't.

 

[Uptown]

Allegedly

 

[TommyD4207]

Allegedly

The Bengals are high if they think they're getting a player AND a pick.

 

[Toofy]

The Bengals are high if they think they're getting a player AND a pick.

Keon white + 4th rounder ?

 

[TommyD4207]

Keon white + 4th rounder ?

Nope.

 

[RxJock1120]

Keon white + 4th rounder ?

I am down for that. Ain't cheap, but great DE rarely are.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Allegedly

A young player and a pick... Bengals, Can we interest you in Keion White plus a 4th rounder?

 

[dliverey44]

Keon white + 4th rounder ?

I would assume the young player would need to be good. LOL

 

[TommyD4207]

A young player and a pick... Bengals, Can we interest you in Keion White plus a 4th rounder?

Bruh, you're taking back a MONSTER contract, and a rental at that. He's a FA at the end of the year.
That is way, WAY too much to give up.

 

[captain stone]

It's hard to know who you are even talking about sometimes.

Sorry I meant to add Bourne after Dawghouse but had to step-away for a moment before returning to finish...

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Bruh, you're taking back a MONSTER contract, and a rental at that. He's a FA at the end of the year.
That is way, WAY too much to give up.

Monster contract? His salary is $16M and you only the prorated portion so about half of that. 1 year $8M is hardly a monster contract to rent one of the leagues best pass rushers for a playoff run on a team that looks poised to make it.

 

[TommyD4207]

Put it this way, maybe this will help some people out.

Patriots get: Trey Hendrickson (who is currently injured, by the way) +~10 million in salary the rest of the season. He is a free agent after the season. You're getting him for, best-case scenario, 12 games, assuming he misses no time. Realistically, assuming he plays well, that's what, 8, 9 sacks? Average run defender.

Bengals get: Keion White, who has been pretty bad, but is still developing, cheap, and will be allowed to do whatever he wants on that defense, and is under contract for two more years. You're also getting a pick likely in the top-125 next season.

So you're making the Bengals better long-term, getting them out of cap hell, and giving them two young, cheap players.

In return, you're getting a 2nd-tier pass rusher for a little more than half a season, and hamstringing your cap this year and next year, since his contract involves a void year for 2026, a 6.5 million dead cap hit. And you're losing Keion White. Who comes in if/when Hendrickson has to miss a couple of games?

It's way too much to give up for a team that's still building a program.