OT: NFL Apparently Made a Penalty Correction

[Ian]

Minor note, but I went to verify the penalties and noticed the total changed from Weeks 1 and 2, which threw off everything when I uploaded yesterday's. So I had to go back and do some digging to find the discrepancy, and the league apparently removed the penalty on Andy Borregales' kick out of bounds call at the end of the game in Week 1:

Before:

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/upload/patriots/vemzcwcqtgutbuplkrh5.pdf

After:

https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/v1757360321/gamecenter/f5919f8e-311e-11f0-b670-ae1250fadad1.pdf

That dropped their total from 9/70yds to 8/70yds for that game. They're currently at 27/199yds for the season:

2025 Patriots Penalties: Full Breakdown By Player/Week

2025 New England Patriots Player Penalties.

www.patsfans.com

 

[XLIX]

I was hoping this thread was going to be about the 2006/07 AFCCG....

 

[Huckleberry1]

They should have corrected the penalties against Patriots cornerbacks Sunday on uncatchable balls.

 

[Triumph]

Officiating has been bad this season.

They missed an Eagles false start and the Chiefs RT constantly leaves early.

 

[PatsfanTN]

They should have corrected the penalties against Patriots cornerbacks Sunday on uncatchable balls.

Clicked on this thread to say just that.

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

I was hoping this thread was going to be about the 2006/07 AFCCG....

Yeah, or Mike Carey not calling Eli sacked in the grasp on the Tyree catch...
Or the BS Intentional grounding in XLVI...
Or the egregious refball in the Brock Osweiler game...
Or the league changing the catch rule in LII without bothering to tell anyone, not to mention missing the blatant illegal formation on the Philly special...

How many rings would we have if the refs weren't incompetent/rigged.

 

[Ross12]

What good does that do if the penalty was still "real" in the game? Can the Pats get a service credit to use towards removing a future bad call in the actual game?

 

[Ian]

What good does that do if the penalty was still "real" in the game?

Purely a numbers (stats) adjustment. Happens at least a couple of times a season. Same thing with tackles, which has already happened at least once that I’m aware of through three games.

They apparently have people who review the tape after the fact and make adjustments, I’m assuming also partly based on requests by the teams themselves after they do their own review. Players also likely track their own numbers and probably question it if they disagree with them, which also might play a role. It’s definitely interesting. Although I miss the “corrections” area they used to have. Made it much easier to find them.

 

[TheRainMaker]

How did the league not interfere with the made up Ellis Hobbs "face guarding penalty"? I think Marlin Jackson mauled Troy Brown on the final drive as well.

How did the refs hold their whistle when the entire Giants O-line held the Pats D-line before the Tyree play? Even Shaun O'Hara admitted he was holding because he wasn't going to let the play end with a sack. Then you have Manning clearly in the grasp and the play should've ended.

The bogus intentional groundings we saw in the Super Bowl against the Giants for a safety and against the Seahawks where it's legal to throw it in the back of the end zone. QB's do it all the time.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Purely a numbers (stats) adjustment. Happens at least a couple of times a season. Same thing with tackles, which has already happened at least once that I’m aware of through three games.

They apparently have people who review the tape after the fact and make adjustments, I’m assuming also partly based on requests by the teams themselves after they do their own review. Players also likely track their own numbers and probably question it if they disagree with them, which also might play a role. It’s definitely interesting. Although I miss the “corrections” area they used to have. Made it much easier to find them.

So... was it not a penalty to kick it out on the kick? I don't know the new rules well enough.

 

[Ian]

So... was it not a penalty to kick it out on the kick? I don't know the new rules well enough.

It went from:
A.Borregales kicks onside 17 yards from NE 35 to LV 48, out of bounds.
PENALTY on NE-A.Borregales, Kickoff Out of Bounds, placed at LV 48.

To:

A.Borregales kicks onside 17 yards from NE 35 to LV 48, impetus ends at LV 48, out of bounds.

Whatever that means.

 

[Gumby]

It went from:
A.Borregales kicks onside 17 yards from NE 35 to LV 48, out of bounds.
PENALTY on NE-A.Borregales, Kickoff Out of Bounds, placed at LV 48.

To:

A.Borregales kicks onside 17 yards from NE 35 to LV 48, impetus ends at LV 48, out of bounds.

Whatever that means.

[ I believe ] What trying to say with „impetus ends“ is that 48 is the point where the ball crossed the imaginary plane of the outer boundary line.

Complicated verbiage and technically incorrect physics usage; but any league that punishes complying with the law of thermodynamics can certainly misuse physics terms.

 

[InRodWeRust]

A.Borregales kicks onside 17 yards from NE 35 to LV 48, impetus ends at LV 48, out of bounds.

Whatever that means.

Borregales seems too young to have impetus. I guess it can happen at any age.

 

[signbabybrady]

It went from:
A.Borregales kicks onside 17 yards from NE 35 to LV 48, out of bounds.
PENALTY on NE-A.Borregales, Kickoff Out of Bounds, placed at LV 48.

To:

A.Borregales kicks onside 17 yards from NE 35 to LV 48, impetus ends at LV 48, out of bounds.

Whatever that means.

Did it hit a player on the way out?

I think by referencing the impetus they just mean that the momentum of the kick would have gone out of bounds regardless of it being touched.

We've seen this before when a player touches it before the EZ but it still ends up a touchback.