Tyquan Thornton thanks us for all the hate and doubt

[Huckleberry1]

"Someone has to have final say. I have it." Bill Belichick Jan 8 2024.

Belichick is such a Belichick hater.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Kraft said people would have more input, not that Belichick gave up final say on personnel. The Belichick defenders have always twisted this. Belichick had veto power on every pick he ever made.

Belichick even stated that right up to the end, but then again he's a Belichick hater so what does he know.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Whoooo whoooooo kick in the gut: BB Defenders where yous at ??

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Belichick's favorite Draft was the Pandemic Draft, where he got to sit at home and make the picks with only Nike helping him.

 

[Bill Lee]

Not anymore with the transfer portal now part of the game, some teams turn it around in a season, I’m not sure if that’s a good or bad thing. A lot of the older football and basketball coaches think it’s a bad thing and have chosen to retire.

It works both ways though. You can pull players into your program from the portal, and other teams/coaches can pull your players into their programs. Given the poor results and the clown show that is Bill's UNC, I don't think that a lot of quality players are going to chose to transfer into UNC.

 

[Sect140]

It works both ways though. You can pull players into your program from the portal, and other teams/coaches can pull your players into their programs. Given the poor results and the clown show that is Bill's UNC, I don't think that a lot of quality players are going to chose to transfer into UNC.

You’re right about teams can lose players which is why I mentioned a lot of great but older coaches retired from the two sports, I think Roy Williams stated it perfectly, you mean I have to work my tail off recruiting kids to come here but then I have to recruit them every year to convince them to stay.

Speaking of UNC, I believe Bill signed the most players from the portal, he signed 70 new players.

 

[dliverey44]

When I told people here Thornton was in a terrible situation in New England with a QB who can’t throw deep in Mac, and an offensive line that couldn’t block for the deep ball… I was assaulted by the “no talent” and “BB sucks” crowd.

Football is a team sport, it takes a team… if you don’t understand that by now, you probably never will.

I also got laughed at and ridiculed when I said that Thornton would succeed on a team with a good OL and strong armed QB. I also heard the he sucks, no Wr has left and done well.

 

[Since1960]

During 3 inglorious *years* with the Pats, T.Thornton had 39 receptions. This year he’s had 9 receptions over 3 games (J.J. Shuster has 10 catches in 3 games). I don’t think he’s on his way to become the second coming of Jerry Rice (or K. Boutte for that matter) and when the KC receiver room is back to normal with Worthy & Rice, I suspect the current receptions per game average will drop accordingly..

 

[Stu Pidassle]

During 3 inglorious *years* with the Pats, T.Thornton had 39 receptions. This year he’s had 9 receptions over 3 games (J.J. Shuster has 10 catches in 3 games). I don’t think he’s on his way to become the second coming of Jerry Rice (or K. Boutte for that matter) and when the KC receiver room is back to normal with Worthy & Rice, I suspect the current receptions per game average will drop accordingly..

I agree, Thornton is not a great receiver just because he is in KC. He only looks good compared to his time with the NEP. He was targeted 9 times for 4 receptions and less than 100 yards in the game the OP highlighted. Those numbers are consistent a backup WR, not a breakout star.

 

[PatsFan2]

I agree, Thornton is not a great receiver just because he is in KC. He only looks good compared to his time with the NEP. He was targeted 9 times for 4 receptions and less than 100 yards in the game the OP highlighted. Those numbers are consistent a backup WR, not a breakout star.

I am happy for Thornton: didn't think He could do it. Him - Worthy and Rice will give Mahomes some very fast Targets. Wish we had their problem. Thornton's trajectory can only go up: we will just remember that we Drafted him and couldn't develop him.

 

[mgteich]

I agree, Thornton is not a great receiver just because he is in KC. He only looks good compared to his time with the NEP. He was targeted 9 times for 4 receptions and less than 100 yards in the game the OP highlighted. Those numbers are consistent a backup WR, not a breakout star.

Yes, Thornton is an OK backup WR. I think the point is that he couldn't be a #5 for us.

 

[uknepatsfan]

It does look like a case where no matter who we get at WR they won’t thrive under the current system.

 

[Bill Lee]

You’re right about teams can lose players which is why I mentioned a lot of great but older coaches retired from the two sports, I think Roy Williams stated it perfectly, you mean I have to work my tail off recruiting kids to come here but then I have to recruit them every year to convince them to stay.

Speaking of UNC, I believe Bill signed the most players from the portal, he signed 70 new players.

Yes, he more or less dumped the entire squad from the last regime and went to the portal and bought a new set of players. The thing is, if you look at the quality metric, he bought a large number of average players and very few with high grades. I suspect it's the usual BB thing, he thinks he's gonna be able to coach them up, but it's a lot easier to coach them up if they show up with high grades. Plus, spending that much money to buy players instead of recruiting them organically is not a strategy proven to work and be sustainable.

 

[BTTA]

Sometimes it just takes a player longer to develop and mature than folks anticipate or have patience for. It makes one wonder if we had someone more sagacious in charge perhaps Thornton could've stuck and blossomed.

Providing a public service here:

sagacious /sə-gā′shəs/

adjective​

1. Having or showing keen discernment, sound judgment, and farsightedness. synonym: shrewd.
2. Similar: Of quick sense perceptions; keen-scented; skilled in following a trail.
   Similar: Hence, of quick intellectual perceptions; of keen penetration and judgment; discerning and judicious; knowing; far-sighted; shrewd; sage; wise

 

[203Pat]

It is the biggest load of **** I have ever heard on this board. Everyone knows Belichick is a control freak, and he never gave final decisions on personnel to anyone, with the exception of letting Ernie Adams make a 7th round pick on his last day with the organization. Belichick ran the operation and he gets credit for the good, and blame for the bad, period. His cult believes he should get credit only, and will stoop to the point of lying their asses off to defend him endlessly. And nothing proves that better than the Belichick/UNC thread. The cult has ZERO credibility, and they did that to themselves.

At this point I think him and signbabybrady are just trolling because nobody is that dumb.

 

[signbabybrady]

At this point I think him and signbabybrady are just trolling because nobody is that dumb.

So you're saying Belichick signed Mayo to that succession contract then? It's undeniable that there were some things going on that were out of Bill's control.

 

[The Gr8est]

Sometimes it just takes a player longer to develop and mature than folks anticipate or have patience for. It makes one wonder if we had someone more sagacious in charge perhaps Thornton could've stuck and blossomed.

Maybe the ground is harder in New England?

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[Wozzy]

He has the power every employee has when one finds the situation unacceptable: find a new job. He didn't. He chose to accept.

He rode out his 20 million per contract, a job near his house on Nantucket and near his young hottie… but I’m sure you would have walked away due to your extraordinary principles. Laughable…

Also this notion is hat Bill wasn’t a team player or willing to work with others is silly haterade nonsense.

 

[Wozzy]

"Collaboration with veto power" = "veto power".

Why did they you place this above in quotes to make it look officious, you just made this quote up?

The owner has veto power on everything.

 

[Tunescribe]

Maybe the ground is harder in New England?

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Well, they do play on natural grass in KC.

 

[Wozzy]

That is misleading. He has nine receptions for 171 yards with his longest reception being 57 yards. So a third of his receiving yards were on one pass. So the fact he has only 9 receptions skews the average total.

You take away that one catch and he is averaging 14.25 YPC. That would make him 24th in the league.

We are way too early in the season for YPC to mean anything because one or two really long catches by a receiver can skew the results.

It’s week 4, he barely played in game one and field stretchers only get a handful of targets a game. They’re not slot receivers.

Why is is so hard to say “I was wrong” for the haters? Oh yeah, because it’s more important that Bill was wrong. We don’t even know who made the draft choice there, it was a collaboration.