DJ Moore anyone?

[Huckleberry1]

The Patriots WR targets need to start going to Diggs, Boutte, Williams, and Chism. Time to deactivate Douglas and move Hollins down the depth chart.

 

[jdlboot14]

If Pop has one more game of invisibility, then I do smell a trade for WR coming.
At that position, you can't be production-less.
Personally, I want Meyers.
I don't care about trading even a 2nd rd pick - it would just be wasted on another worthless bust of a WR next year

 

[Real fan 02]

Agree

I think for the immediate future they like Hollins and Diggs helping out in the slot. I think Chism will finally get playing time when the matchup dictates it. Do Diggs and Boutte have experience playing against the Panthers outide guys? Have they had success? 5'11 176 LB Chau Smith-Wade looks like he's the nickle CB...not a lot of experience. Can Pop take advantage of the lack of experience? I doubt it. He's probably quick at that weight though. He has 3 inches over Pop. I'd rather see Hollins take advantage of the height difference at 6'4" even though he's relatively slow. Hollins is also a better run blocker if that will be a big part of the gameplan. Their are tradeoffs depending on what Josh plans to do.

You make great points. Signbabybrady baby feels that Boutte " sucks "too.. strong words. Boutte is realistically a 3 on a good team.. however he makes clutch plays for Drake and has...been a reliable option. Are some point whoever is out there is simply going to have to man up and play better. Ideally you're looking for Pop to be that guy.

 

[Real fan 02]

I hate to say it but Boutte still kind of sucks too. He might be the best we have, I still think that will probably end up being Diggs as the year goes on but I don't think either are going to be a true WR1.

From their everything goes on a curve because Williams and Chiz haven't shown the coaches they are better yet. Douglas is heading the wrong direction and Hollins is what he is (average at best).

I think about the only thing we can do other than a trade is settle on our best 3 or 4 and stop rotating the others so much.

For me that's in order Diggs, Boutte, Williams, and Chiz and the last 2 are just kind of default I'd rather play the rooks at this point.

SBB,
Great stuff as always. My brother on Boutte you know how I feel about him. Lol he's a reliable, sure handled relief valve for Drake..Brady would have loved to play with Boutte. Only if.. when the other wrs are either dropping passes or can't run the right routes it's Boutte who's been a playmaker and Henry respectfully. I agree with your order. Diggs ( once fully healthy) , Boutte and Williams will ultimately end up being the primary guys by mid to late season. Pop i still like but I'm disappointed in his production he should be eating in this offense.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Boutte is clearly their best option right now. Diggs is working his way back from injury but should be #2 and considering his pedigree and weakness of the rest of the depth chart, have to keep giving him chances.

Hollins and Douglas aren't good receivers. They can both be active as #4/#5 options with package plays for them as it makes sense - Hollins is their biggest receiver and best blocker and Douglas can be a gadget guy. But Hollins should be active primarily for STs coverage and Douglas should primarily be active to be the punt returner since MJones is needed on defense.

Give Williams and then Chism (in that order) a chance as #3 over those two guys who have proven they aren't good. Also, 2 TE sets should be utilized a lot over 3WR anyway. If both Williams/Chism flop then just go with whoever is best of them and Hollins/Douglas as the #3 and live with terrible WR play for another year.

 

[Zuma]

Boutte is realistically a 3 on a good team

I think he's a 2 on every team and might be good enough to be a 1 in 2-3 years...but that title should go to Williams by then.

At some point whoever is out there is simply going to have to man up and play better. Ideally you're looking for Pop to be that guy.

I can't see that now. Pop feels like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. He was a better fit in the O last year. The future is Chism but today I think it's Hollins, Diggs and Pop in the slot. As you know I hated the Hollins signing but the dude was 4 for 4 in receptions last game. Only Henry had more receptions. He doesn't suck in the slot.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think he's a 2 on every team and might be good enough to be a 1 in 2-3 years...but that title should go to Williams by then.

I can't see that now. Pop feels like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. He was a better fit in the O last year. The future is Chism but today I think it's Hollins, Diggs and Pop in the slot. As you know I hated the Hollins signing but the dude was 4 for 4 in receptions last game. Only Henry had more receptions. He doesn't suck in the slot.

I like it. I'll take #2 for Boutte. With his 14 YPC average. The mystifying thing With pop is even McDaniels raved about how he's acclimated to the offense all camp. Now it looks like he's lost. Or ,I can't make it out he's simply not producing.

I like your idea of Hollins in the slot big 6'4 body and good hands. Williams is the guy I'm wanting to see do well.. Zuma your a fan like me.. you know all it takes to make a defense respect the deep pass is making one catch.. that's all Williams needs... just that 45 yard catch on 2 and 3.. it will back a defense up.. now guess what.. the middle of the field and run game suddenly come to life.. I can dream can't i..

 

[dliverey44]

Douglas could not get to the 1st down line or beyond it because the Pitt DBs were there waiting and had it covered. Douglas went to an area where Maye could get him the ball without fear of an INT.

The play was reminiscent of Faulk coming up short in Indy.

Douglas getting blamed for losing the game is a joke.

He really just had to fall forward after he caught it and he would have had the 1st down. It was covered pretty quickly but he had room to lunge forward, he must have thought he was 2 yards short when he caught it (only explanation I have). You're right though the loss wasn't on Pop

 

[TommyD4207]

He really just had to fall forward after he caught it and he would have had the 1st down. It was covered pretty quickly but he had room to lunge forward, he must have thought he was 2 yards short when he caught it (only explanation I have). You're right though the loss wasn't on Pop

Tweet is also wrong.
This is the dumbest play by a WR.

 

[signbabybrady]

You make great points. Signbabybrady baby feels that Boutte " sucks "too.. strong words. Boutte is realistically a 3 on a good team.. however he makes clutch plays for Drake and has...been a reliable option. Are some point whoever is out there is simply going to have to man up and play better. Ideally you're looking for Pop to be that guy.

Yeah a little harsh. He doesn't suck but when he's the best you have it means the whole group kind of sucks then.

He can still improve too. Week 1 was obviously exciting but weeks 2 and 3 he didn't exactly follow it up.

 

[signbabybrady]

Tweet is also wrong.
This is the dumbest play by a WR.

Lol....Not having enough fun this week. Just kick us all in the balls with that memory.

 

[TommyD4207]

Lol....Not having enough fun this week. Just kick us all in the balls with that memory.

It just kills me every time his name gets brought up.

IT WAS A TIE ****ING GAME.

 

[Real fan 02]

Pop is compared to Elijah Moore who's in Buffalo. Moore is thriving in Buffalo doing exactly what pop should be doing here..

If Pop has one more game of invisibility, then I do smell a trade for WR coming.
At that position, you can't be production-less.
Personally, I want Meyers.
I don't care about trading even a 2nd rd pick - it would just be wasted on another worthless bust of a WR next year

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I think he's a 2 on every team and might be good enough to be a 1 in 2-3 years...but that title should go to Williams by then.

I can't see that now. Pop feels like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. He was a better fit in the O last year. The future is Chism but today I think it's Hollins, Diggs and Pop in the slot. As you know I hated the Hollins signing but the dude was 4 for 4 in receptions last game. Only Henry had more receptions. He doesn't suck in the slot.

Calling Chism the future is a huge overstatement right now. He’s an UDFA. Credit to him for making the team, but most of the guys line that who make the team aren’t actually good enough to play. Way more likely than Chism being the “future” is that he’s roster fodder whos only borderline roster able and should never play. And if that’s all he is he’s still outplaying his pedigree even.

 

[Triumph]

LOL! No it didn't. When he stopped, there wasn't a defender within five yards of him.

NFL players run 5 second 40 yard dashes.

You are talking about 5 yards.

The safety had to come from mid field to make the play and I am not sure Douglas even saw him.

Then why did Douglas stop?

Because he wanted to give Maye a clean target.

The guy who should have been covering the outside down marker was five yards down the field.

Divide 5 yards into 40 yards and you get 8.

So, even a 8 second 40 yard dash divided by 8 = 1 second. Douglas had no chance because the Steeler DBs were closing so fast.

 

[TommyD4207]

You are talking about 5 yards.

You're talking about 5 centimeters. He was literally STANDING on the first down line. All he had to do was fall down.

 

[Triumph]

You're talking about 5 centimeters. He was literally STANDING on the first down line. All he had to do was fall down.

The still photo shows the ball hitting Douglases hands. He still had to complete the catch and secure the ball.

But it was too late because the Steelers were at the 1st down marker bu that time.

These still photos are deceiving. The Welker non catch in the Super Bowl. Look at him he dropped it. Cut him for costing NE a Super Bowl. It's always the same jumping to extremes.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yeah a little harsh. He doesn't suck but when he's the best you have it means the whole group kind of sucks then.

He can still improve too. Week 1 was obviously exciting but weeks 2 and 3 he didn't exactly follow it up.

I truly believe it has so much to do with with the game planning.. we've seen this from Josh over the years.. one game it's this guy, the next game it's another guy. For example rham had the big game week 2, then Henry had a big game week 3.. Hopefully it's pop who can finally break out this funk he's in.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

NFL players run 5 second 40 yard dashes.
Divide 5 yards into 40 yards and you get 8.

So, even a 8 second 40 yard dash divided by 8 = 1 second. Douglas had no chance because the Steeler DBs were closing so fast.

You are an MIT graduate?

 

[Rob0729]

NFL players run 5 second 40 yard dashes.

You are talking about 5 yards.

Then why did Douglas stop?

Because he wanted to give Maye a clean target.

Divide 5 yards into 40 yards and you get 8.

So, even a 8 second 40 yard dash divided by 8 = 1 second. Douglas had no chance because the Steeler DBs were closing so fast.

If Douglas stopped to give Maye a clean target but didn't think he would have a clean target two feet farther down the field, you are making a strong case to bench Douglas. That is ridiculous. Again, when he stopped there wasn't a defender within five yards of him.

And you can use whatever math you want, but the difference in that ball traveling from one spot to another spot two feet farther down the field would be a small fraction of a second that probably registered by the human eye.