Why do the Pats struggle so much in Miami?

[sb1]

NFL Notes: Why can’t the Patriots win in Miami? They can’t explain it

Over the last 12 years, the Patriots have only won twice in Miami. None of their current players have won there while wearing a Patriots uniform. And they can’t explain why.

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I can’t explain it either. If it’s the weather than you’d think they would have a great record at home every season in September-October against every team and they don’t. This is historic going back to AFL days. Weird.

That 04 MNF loss against the 2 win Dolphins was ridiculous. On the bright side of that I believe that was our first look at Wes Welker.

Then again the 07 game in Miami was the complete opposite. I think they could have scored 100 if they really wanted to.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The only explanation is most of the time it's the heat. It's the same reason Jimmy Johnson was complaining the Dolphins kept playing at the Pats late in the year when it was really cold.

Pats had no business losing to them in 2004.

 

[NFL Mystique]

The Dolphins went 1-17 during Brady led QB games in Foxboro. And the Patriots always struggled in Miami. It got both ways.

Nothing can prepare players for wearing large pads and moving around at a fast pace in 100 degree weather.

 

[NFL Mystique]

The only explanation is most of the time it's the heat. It's the same reason Jimmy Johnson was complaining the Dolphins kept playing at the Pats late in the year when it was really cold.

Pats had no business losing to them in 2004.

Such a bizarre game and ending. Turned out to be a one off. Patriots never lost again that season.

 

[sb1]

The Dolphins went 1-17 during Brady led QB games in Foxboro. And the Patriots always struggled in Miami. It got both ways.

Nothing can prepare players for wearing large pads and moving around at a fast pace in 100 degree weather.

This goes way back though. I don’t remember Marino’s Dolphins having that much trouble beating us in Foxboro.

 

[VJCPatriot]

We always play bad in Miami. You can blame it on the weather and humidity. But it really comes down to execution. We don't play well enough to win there, bottom line.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

 

[Real fan 02]

NFL Notes: Why can’t the Patriots win in Miami? They can’t explain it

Over the last 12 years, the Patriots have only won twice in Miami. None of their current players have won there while wearing a Patriots uniform. And they can’t explain why.

www.bostonherald.com

https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/meltdowns-in-miami-a-look-at-the-patriots-futility.46864/

I can’t explain it either. If it’s the weather than you’d think they would have a great record at home every season in September-October against every team and they don’t. This is historic going back to AFL days. Weird.

That 04 MNF loss against the 2 win Dolphins was ridiculous. On the bright side of that I believe that was our first look at Wes Welker.

Then again the 07 game in Miami was the complete opposite. I think they could have scored 100 if they really wanted to.

I'm going to say the heat... especially during winter in NE. Coming from a cold climate to a warm one definitely stresses the best athletes. That south Florida humidity is year round. Definitely a factor. Can we break the Tua curse?? Can I ask you? Has there ever been a QB in-division that the patriots have never beat?

 

[Real fan 02]

This goes way back though. I don’t remember Marino’s Dolphins having that much trouble beating us in Foxboro.

 

[Hyped]

I think it is a curse…

We beat them at the Orange Bowl back in ‘86….and haven’t been successful since they moved to Joe Robbie/Pro Player/Hard Rock/Whatever….

 

[TommyD4207]

I think it is a curse…

We beat them at the Orange Bowl back in ‘86….and haven’t been successful since they moved to Joe Robbie/Pro Player/Hard Rock/Whatever….

They'd lost 18 straight in the Orange Bowl previous to that game...so it's not like they had a lot of success before then either.

 

[Huckleberry1]

The heat.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

I think it is a curse…

bruins have trouble with panthers/lightnings too

 

[Family]

This goes way back though. I don’t remember Marino’s Dolphins having that much trouble beating us in Foxboro.

According to Chat GPT (and this is about what I remember.)

Marino - 8–9 in Foxboro (incl. playoffs). And these weren't great Patriot teams.

Here are the games Dan Marino started at New England/Foxboro, with sources:

• 1983 — MIA 6 @ NE 17 (L). Pro Football Reference
• 1984 — MIA 44 @ NE 24 (W). Pro Football Reference
• 1985 — MIA 13 @ NE 17 (L). Pro Football Reference
• 1986 — MIA 7 @ NE 34 (L). Pro Football Reference
• 1987 — MIA 21 @ NE 28 (L). Pro Football Refere
• 1988 — MIA 10 @ NE 21 (L). Pro Football Reference
• 1989 — MIA 24 @ NE 10 (W). Pro Football Reference
• 1990 — MIA 27 @ NE 24 (W). Pro Football Reference
• 1991 — MIA 20 @ NE 10 (W). Pro Football Reference
• 1992 — MIA 16 @ NE 13 (W, OT). Pro Football Reference
• 1994 — MIA 23 @ NE 3 (W). Pro Football Reference
• 1995 — MIA 20 @ NE 3 (W). Pro Football Reference
• 1996 — MIA 23 @ NE 42 (L). Pro Football Reference
• 1997 — MIA 24 @ NE 27 (L). Pro Football Reference
• 1997 (WC) — MIA 3 @ NE 17 (L, playoffs). Pro Football Reference
• 1998 — MIA 23 @ NE 26 (L). Pro Football Reference
• 1999 — MIA 31 @ NE 30 (W). Pro Football Reference

(For completeness: the Jan 2, 1994 game — MIA 27 @ NE 33 (OT) — was in Foxboro but Scott Mitchell started, not Marino, so it’s excluded from his personal record. Pro Football Reference)


So, Marino’s Foxboro W–L = 8 wins, 9 losses.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

The immortal Scott Mitchell. Greatest free agent signing by the Lions ev-ah

 

[Wozzy]

Humidity

 

[reflexblue]

Its not the heat its the humidity

 

[mgteich]

NFL Notes: Why can’t the Patriots win in Miami? They can’t explain it

Over the last 12 years, the Patriots have only won twice in Miami. None of their current players have won there while wearing a Patriots uniform. And they can’t explain why.

www.bostonherald.com

https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/meltdowns-in-miami-a-look-at-the-patriots-futility.46864/

I can’t explain it either. If it’s the weather than you’d think they would have a great record at home every season in September-October against every team and they don’t. This is historic going back to AFL days. Weird.

That 04 MNF loss against the 2 win Dolphins was ridiculous. On the bright side of that I believe that was our first look at Wes Welker.

Then again the 07 game in Miami was the complete opposite. I think they could have scored 100 if they really wanted to.

Perhaps MIA chooses players that play better when it is 88 degrees than the patriots, reasonable since their players need to play in MIA 8 or 9 times a year, while we play there once.

 

[Water Boy]

Contributing factors include the visiting team in Miami has the sideline that is in full sun and have to wear their dark home unis.

 

[PScottman]

It's the nightlife.

I mean South Beach vs. anywhere in a 200mi radius of Foxboro...kinda no contest. What's the old saying "you can fight, but you'll only die tired"?