The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

[Rob0729]

I still think Belichick is the best head coach of all time, but it is clear he last lost whatever made him special. He is now just a petty man who cares more about what is best for him than what is best for the team. Kraft fired him two years too late.

I know Kraft gets a lot of crap by fans including for how he treated Belichick at the end. I think as time goes on, it will show he wasn't the villain in a lot of this.

 

[p8ryts]

This is a minor inconvenience to the Patriots. This could be a huge loss to his players. Belichick coaches for UNC and not Ohio State or Alabama. Only a handful of players from UNC get drafted in most years. It is hard enough for a player from UNC to get drafted as it is. Blocking one of the 32 teams from scouting the team only makes it less likely that an UNC player gets drafted.

The Patriots will just find another player from another school of similar quality. Most UNC players will only have one or two NFL teams at most show interest in them at all. One those teams might have been the Patriots. Not anymore.

Unfortunately I agree. I hope Bill comes to his senses here.

 

[Grogan14]

I can't blame BB for wanting to be careful about a long term commitment to a 43 yr old. Even though he was playing well it could have ended very abruptly at any point after that. The Pats went from champs in 2018 to chumps in 2019, with little hope they could rebound anytime soon. Brady also wanted out due to that, which Kraft granted (not Bill). It was a mutual parting. He still had one more good year in him, the Bucs superbowl year, but we weren't winning a SB in

It’S cLEaR

“Love you NE….Love you patriots fans…..”

He has an odd way of showing his “love” for NE and pats fans. His behavior is beyond petty and vengeful.
He has become a small selfish character.

I thought Bunny is his pr advisor??? She should be replaced

 

[sb1]

Bill might have a point. The 33rd NFL team shouldn’t allow the other 32 into the building. Amirite?

 

[Toofy]

I still think Belichick is the best head coach of all time, but it is clear he last lost whatever made him special. He is now just a petty man who cares more about what is best for him than what is best for the team. Kraft fired him two years too late.

I know Kraft gets a lot of crap by fans including for how he treated Belichick at the end. I think as time goes on, it will show he wasn't the villain in a lot of this.

If bill can be so vile and petty in public after 6 years of downward slope, think what all he might have done after the super bowl rings between 2019 -2024.

Notice the trend since 2017


Butler benching
Tom suffocated enough to leave
Gronk proposed trade to Detroit.
Not giving caley OC responsibilities
Pocketing 25 million while keeping lean staff
Patricia as OC
Not allowing BoB to get his staff
Draft blinders or willful draft sabotage you never know .

Again there could have been valid reasons behind all these , but cannot dismiss the speculation based on bills behavior after he is fired.

Thank God I did not put on my planned purchase of bill belichick poster with do your job in my office room. I have just lost my full respect for the man..

 

[Huckleberry1]

I heard on the news this am a current NEP player who was wearing a UNC t-shirt in the weight room was told to change by a NEP employee. Unknown if it was Drake

Seems the pettiness is flowing both ways. Children.

What closed door meeting are you referring to?

I find it really hard to believe that a Patriots employee told Drake Maye to not wear a UNC shirt. Players don’t wear shirts of schools they didn’t go to, unless it’s on a bet, and Maye is the only UNC player on the Patriots. Vrabel has too much respect for the attachment of players to their college teams to allow this to happen. If I remember correctly he was the one who would bet Brady on the OSU Michigan games when they played together. There is no way one of his staff would tell their most important player he couldn’t show his allegiance to his college while working out.

 

[raduray]

Seems as direct as possible.

Is there any evidence that Bill's not welcome at Foxboro?

 

[Huckleberry1]

- Looking at every coach available on the market and deciding his two sons are the best guys for the job
- Giving Lombardi's kids similar treatment
- (Allegedly) freezing out Mayo once he gets a contract saying he's the designated heir
- (Allegedly) wanting his son Steve to be named his heir on his UNC contract

All this after preaching team-first is the Patriot Way.

I think Belichick had every right to freeze out Mayo, he should have kept him off of his staff. That was a total backstab move by Mayo, and he’s smart enough to know that when he did it.

 

[sb1]

If Bill is petty enough to do all of this then let it forever be on the record that he is also petty enough to bench Malcolm Butler in a Super Bowl for no good reason at all even at the cost of a championship. Which it was.

No need to overthink it anymore.

 

[Bill Lee]

Is there any evidence that Bill's not welcome at Foxboro?

Nope, and the fact that he was here for Brady's thing suggests otherwise.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Is there any evidence that Bill's not welcome at Foxboro?

Dynasty was a hit job, I don’t blame Belichick for resenting that, where he crosses the line is limiting a team’s exposure to his players. He has a responsibility to maximize their opportunity to get to the next level if they are doing all they can in practice and games. That’s his actual selling point to recruits, is that no one can help get them to the NFL better than he can.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Nope, and the fact that he was here for Brady's thing suggests otherwise.

Good point, I had forgotten that.

 

[Bill Lee]

I think Belichick had every right to freeze out Mayo, he should have kept him off of his staff. That was a total backstab move by Mayo, and he’s smart enough to know that when he did it.

Total backstab? Bill had to realize his time was coming to an end. If he was a GOAT and not an ******* he would have set Mayo up to succeed.

 

[VectorPrime]

Bill is a textbook narcissist but when he was younger he had the good sense to filter it better and also disguise it behind all of the winning he was a part of. But now the character he always was is revealed and it vindicates a lot of what people, ex-players and media members who were accused of being bitter, had said for years.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

Belichick is a bitter old man but Kraft is no better in this situation either, he says one thing in public but does another behind the scenes.

The dynasty was a completely needless product which reignited all of this and it all stems from Krafts ego and trying to make him seem more responsible than he was, you don't see Clark Hunt constantly trying to get 33% of the credit with Mahomes/Reid.

Anytime someone mentions Brady & Belichick, Kraft is there like "don't forget about me, i was responsible too guys"

 

[VectorPrime]

Total backstab? Bill had to realize his time was coming to an end. If he was a GOAT and not an ******* he would have set Mayo up to succeed.

In Bill's narcissistic mind, and the dupes he still has as a fanclub, he can do whatever he wants to *anyone* but if its ever done to him its unacceptable. Screwing over player and other coaches, making things difficult for his own boss, thats fine because thats for himself. But any accountability leveled at him is unfair.

I have been saying it for years. Super Bowl 52 should have been a friable offense. He allowed a petty grudge to essentially throw the game away. If he had been fired, and Caserio kept on as a REAL GM, I guarantee you not only would Brady have stayed but we'd be in a better spot now.

 

[Bill Lee]

I can't blame BB for wanting to be careful about a long term commitment to a 43 yr old.

Some rumors say he's already made a long term commitment to a 24 year old, so of course 43 is too old for him!

 

[VectorPrime]

Unfortunately I agree. I hope Bill comes to his senses here.

Belichick has not lost his senses, he's merely revealing his true character now that he's older and can't/won't filter it out anymore.

How many times do people for decades have to keep telling us that this is who is he. Brilliant football mind sure, but a narcissitic ******* hypocrite who is in it for himself and always himself. And since this is real life and not a video game that is a huge problem.

 

[VectorPrime]

I can't blame BB for wanting to be careful about a long term commitment to a 43 yr old. Even though he was playing well it could have ended very abruptly at any point after that. The Pats went from champs in 2018 to chumps in 2019, with little hope they could rebound anytime soon. Brady also wanted out due to that, which Kraft granted (not Bill). It was a mutual parting. He still had one more good year in him, the Bucs superbowl year, but we weren't winning a SB in 2020 even with Tom.

I love how people are still this stupid.

"I can't blame him for not wanting to invest in a 43 year old. Imagine what would have happened if he paid Brady to be here another 2 years."

Like, do you remember what his plan was? He waited until the end of June to sign a washed up Cam Newton who COULDNT THROW THE FOOTBALL. He punted that year away for nothing, he didn't even give Stidham a chance to see if there was maybe SOMETHING there. Another petty grudge against that guy I'm sure, which is ironic because it turns out that Stidham is at least a backup in this league.

And one good year left in him? Tom Brady in the 2021/2022 season should have been the MVP and not Aaron Rodgers. He wins the Super Bowl AGAIN if his Left Tackle doesn't tear his ankle, his center get concussed, and if Antonio Brown doesn't literally quit in the middle of a game. Or if Godwin doesn't tear his ACL.

Tom Brady, with no Left tackle, Gronk with bruised ribs, and Mike Evans as the only good receiver, led a 27 point comeback against the Rams (you know, the super bowl champion?) to tie the game before his dumb coach made the dumbest defensive playcall possible in the last second. If he wins that game he beats Jimmy G at home and then Burrow in the Super Bowl. Simple as that.

 

[Bill Lee]

How many times do people for decades have to keep telling us that this is who is he. Brilliant football mind sure, but a narcissitic ******* hypocrite who is in it for himself and always himself. And since this is real life and not a video game that is a huge problem.

Even worse, UNC has put him in charge of shaping the future of 18 to 22 year olds, and he's already showing his petty squabbles are more important than they are.