I'm Going to Miss Strange 69

[TheRainMaker]

My top 5 head scratchers all things considered (where the roster was at at the time, the position, the risk, etc)

1. Cole Strange. An insane pick all around. Went a round or tow before most thought he would go and Bill made the pick because of his own mismanagement at the position in the year or two prior.

2. Jordan Richards. His ceiling was a special teamer and the consensus seemed he was a late round pick at best.

3. Dominique Easley. Multiple knee injuries in addition to being a head case apparently had him off of a lot of team's boards altogether and Bill took him in round 1. From what I remember there was some solid d-linemen that went in the second round that year.

4. Tavon Wilson. Basically the same deal as Jordan Richards but at least we got Jones and Hightower in that draft.

5. Jermaine Cunningham. I think many at the time thought Carlos Dunlap was the better player at the same position at the same school and of course the rumor was that Meyer told Bill the same and Bill ignored it.

Honorable mentions: Duke Dawson, Marte Mapu, and Joejuan Williams

And for those who will clutch their pearls at my "Bill bashing". I remember adamantly wanting David Terrell over hall of famer, Richard Seymour. Thinking Chad Jackson would be Randy Moss 2.0. Hating the McCourty pick, and barely knowing who Jamie Collins was.

Good list. Here's mine.

1. Cole Strange. Not the player you trade down for. This was a bad team that desperately needed an infusion of talent. A G from a small school wasn't it.
2. Ras IR Dowling. They had all night to discuss who they were going to take with the 1st pick of the 2nd round and they took a guy with major injuries since High School. 5 years later they corrected the mistake by signing the player they should've drafted in Jabaal Sheard.
3. Dominique Easily. Tore his ACL twice in college. That's not who you take with your 1st round pick when the team continues to come up short in big games.
4. Logan Mankins: Lots of controversy with this pick. He came out of nowhere when David Baas was viewed as the top G.
5. Richard Seymour. The most controversial pick given where they picked in the draft. It was pretty unanimous media and fans wanted David Terrell to help Bledsoe out. I also wanted Deuce McAllister.

Just missing the cut and honorable mentions:

Jimmy G: Team needed to use resources to stop the drought, not take a clipboard holder with a 2nd round pick.
Jermaine Cunningham: Bill passed on Dunlap because he felt Cunningham could play OLB in a 3-4. Bill scrapped the plan and went back to a 4-3 just one year later in 2011.
Devin McCourty: Everyone and their mom thought Dez Bryant was the pick.
Kyle Dugger: The dreaded trade down out of the 1st round occurred only to take a player from a small school.
N'Keal Harry: The WR class was deep and he was regarded as a 1st round pick. It got weird when he leap frogged players that were mostly rated above him in Metcalf, Samuel and Brown.
Jordan Richards. Watching his college and his tape and seeing his measurables shouldn't need an explanation.
Kevin O'Connell: What was the purpose of this pick when they had Matt Cassel since 2005? The guy I wanted went one pick after O'Connell in Manningham. He had a back breaking catch 3 years later in the Super Bowl.

 

[jmt57]

Good list. Here's mine.

1. Cole Strange. Not the player you trade down for. This was a bad team that desperately needed an infusion of talent. A G from a small school wasn't it.
2. Ras IR Dowling. They had all night to discuss who they were going to take with the 1st pick of the 2nd round and they took a guy with major injuries since High School. 5 years later they corrected the mistake by signing the player they should've drafted in Jabaal Sheard.
3. Dominique Easily. Tore his ACL twice in college. That's not who you take with your 1st round pick when the team continues to come up short in big games.
4. Logan Mankins: Lots of controversy with this pick. He came out of nowhere when David Baas was viewed as the top G.
5. Richard Seymour. The most controversial pick given where they picked in the draft. It was pretty unanimous media and fans wanted David Terrell to help Bledsoe out. I also wanted Deuce McAllister.

Just missing the cut and honorable mentions:

Jimmy G: Team needed to use resources to stop the drought, not take a clipboard holder with a 2nd round pick.
Jermaine Cunningham: Bill passed on Dunlap because he felt Cunningham could play OLB in a 3-4. Bill scrapped the plan and went back to a 4-3 just one year later in 2011.
Devin McCourty: Everyone and their mom thought Dez Bryant was the pick.
Kyle Dugger: The dreaded trade down out of the 1st round occurred only to take a player from a small school.
N'Keal Harry: The WR class was deep and he was regarded as a 1st round pick. It got weird when he leap frogged players that were mostly rated above him in Metcalf, Samuel and Brown.
Jordan Richards. Watching his college and his tape and seeing his measurables shouldn't need an explanation.

Nice list.

I would find room for Kevin O'Connell in there somewhere.

No need to use that early of a pick (third round) after your starting QB, who was just 30 years old at the time, was coming off a record-setting MVP performance that was the best season by a QB in NFL history.

There were plenty of better choices available at many other positions.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Nice list.

I would find room for Kevin O'Connell in there somewhere.

No need to use that early of a pick (third round) after your starting QB, who was just 30 years old at the time, was coming off a record-setting MVP performance that was the best season by a QB in NFL history.

There were plenty of better choices available at many other positions.

Good catch. I hated that pick at the time. I'll update my list.

 

[jmt57]

I'm going to miss the innuendo most of all. I had visions of Strange 69 and gaping holes.

I was considering editing the thread title by removing the words "I'm going to".

 

[Froob]

Without context it seems bizarre.

But once you realize:

#1. He was going at the top of the 3rd round if not earlier.
#2. The Patriots had him rated mid 2nd round which is why they tried to trade out of the pick and drop back but they couldn't find a buyer.
#3. They didn't have anyone rated much higher on their board and definitely not at a need position.
#4. The 2nd round was basically a huge bust. Go look at it. Heck, outside of McDuffie, the latter part of the first round also busted.

it was only a need because they let go of both Shaq Mason and Ted Karras.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Just existing doesn't make you a good second round pick.

Being a starter in the NFL for 7 years makes any player a 2nd round draft pick, not a bust. If you are going to declare yourself the draft judgement king, post something reasonable.

 

[203Pat]

Being a starter in the NFL for 7 years makes any player a 2nd round draft pick, not a bust. If you are going to declare yourself the draft judgement king, post something reasonable.

A starter? He started a grand total of 4 games for us in 4 seasons and was a starter on and off for 4 seasons in Detroit. In 10 years, he started 46 out of 133 games, which equals less than 3 starts a year. Also, I said picks by Bill and Bill arguably got the least out of him. He played 18% of the defensive snaps in the games he was available in New England and tallied up a grand total of 4 interceptions, 79 tackles, 0 forced fumbles, 0 sacks, and 1 tackle for a loss.

Yeah, Bill really nailed that one. Invaluable production from a second-rounder.

 

[Triumph]

Glad that Strange and Bourne are gone.

Clean house.

 

[tasmlab]

It's too bad Strange and Wynn didn't perform like other first round picks like Volmer and Solder. The line could've been good. Probably get multiple wins per season out of just that.

 

[signbabybrady]

Good list. Here's mine.

1. Cole Strange. Not the player you trade down for. This was a bad team that desperately needed an infusion of talent. A G from a small school wasn't it.
2. Ras IR Dowling. They had all night to discuss who they were going to take with the 1st pick of the 2nd round and they took a guy with major injuries since High School. 5 years later they corrected the mistake by signing the player they should've drafted in Jabaal Sheard.
3. Dominique Easily. Tore his ACL twice in college. That's not who you take with your 1st round pick when the team continues to come up short in big games.
4. Logan Mankins: Lots of controversy with this pick. He came out of nowhere when David Baas was viewed as the top G.
5. Richard Seymour. The most controversial pick given where they picked in the draft. It was pretty unanimous media and fans wanted David Terrell to help Bledsoe out. I also wanted Deuce McAllister.

Just missing the cut and honorable mentions:

Jimmy G: Team needed to use resources to stop the drought, not take a clipboard holder with a 2nd round pick.
Jermaine Cunningham: Bill passed on Dunlap because he felt Cunningham could play OLB in a 3-4. Bill scrapped the plan and went back to a 4-3 just one year later in 2011.
Devin McCourty: Everyone and their mom thought Dez Bryant was the pick.
Kyle Dugger: The dreaded trade down out of the 1st round occurred only to take a player from a small school.
N'Keal Harry: The WR class was deep and he was regarded as a 1st round pick. It got weird when he leap frogged players that were mostly rated above him in Metcalf, Samuel and Brown.
Jordan Richards. Watching his college and his tape and seeing his measurables shouldn't need an explanation.
Kevin O'Connell: What was the purpose of this pick when they had Matt Cassel since 2005? The guy I wanted went one pick after O'Connell in Manningham. He had a back breaking catch 3 years later in the Super Bowl.

If all of Bill's head scratchers only resulted in Seymour then they were all still worth it. His impact on 01 is so underrated. He was basically our whole interior Dline (from nose-5tech).

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

A starter? He started a grand total of 4 games for us in 4 seasons and was a starter on and off for 4 seasons in Detroit. In 10 years, he started 46 out of 133 games, which equals less than 3 starts a year. Also, I said picks by Bill and Bill arguably got the least out of him. He played 18% of the defensive snaps in the games he was available in New England and tallied up a grand total of 4 interceptions, 79 tackles, 0 forced fumbles, 0 sacks, and 1 tackle for a loss.

Yeah, Bill really nailed that one. Invaluable production from a second-rounder.

King of the BB hate club tries to be a hindsight draft expert and f!cks the whole thing up. Too funny. And then he tries to blame everyone else instead of saying, "I was wrong". For some reason the BB haters can never admit they are wrong.

 

[TheRainMaker]

If all of Bill's head scratchers only resulted in Seymour then they were all still worth it. His impact on 01 is so underrated. He was basically our whole interior Dline (from nose-5tech).

Pats don't win in 2001 without Seymour being a force inside. He was the catalyst of that defense.

 

[upstater1]

it was only a need because they let go of both Shaq Mason and Ted Karras.

I would say it was only a need because they let go of Thuney.

But Shaq Mason was done. He was a sieve for the Bucs.

And Karras is like Brown, passable at center, but as a guard, completely immobile.

If Ted Karras was your starting guard, you were in trouble. He couldn't move.

 

[borg]

Too bad it didn’t work out. I't would have been nice to have Strange 69 for the next several years. Oh what could have been.

Who doesn't love some Strange now and then

 

[203Pat]

King of the BB hate club tries to be a hindsight draft expert and f!cks the whole thing up. Too funny. And then he tries to blame everyone else instead of saying, "I was wrong". For some reason the BB haters can never admit they are wrong.

What exactly was I wrong about?

 

[captain stone]

Did you see that Strange was offered a PS slot in NE? I missed that. Strange might be washed.

Then why was he offered a PS spot here in the first place?

 

[captain stone]

it was only a need because they let go of both Shaq Mason and Ted Karras.

And Thuney a year earlier.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Then why was he offered a PS spot here in the first place?

Was he? I didn't see that Strange was offered a spot.

 

[captain stone]

Was he? I didn't see that Strange was offered a spot.

I thought I read, either in this thread or another here tonight, that he had been offered a PS spot. Apologies if untrue.

 

[Wingy]

Can not be Cole Strange thread without…