Old Friend Jakobi Meyers reportedly wants out of Vegas

[UGAPatsfan]

If Meyers wants $30MM a year he has a very hard lesson coming.

That said, it isn’t clear if he asked for more $ or the Raiders asked him to take LESS.

I’d take him at his current salary if they took Bourne, Polk, or A 6th.

 

[Love The Drake]

Throwing the ball instead of running it.

Malcom GO!

 

[BobDigital]

Meyers has had a single 1K season (just barely). His YPR and YPT are not particularly high and he is not an end zone threat. Meyers is a solid #2 WR on a good team. He got a fairly massive amount of targets last year when he got 1027 yards and his best year ever cause Bowers opened things up for him and they had no one else to really throw to besides these two. I also wonder how many of these yards were made when the game was out of hand. How much does that production mean if you finish 29/32 offenses? How much of that production was not earned against prevent D?

I'm not going to look at the play by play... but here is what i saw on a quick glimpse. Meyers had 3 100 yard games that year... in all 3 they were down 2 scores or more much of the 4th quarter... Not sure if he got many yards late in those games but it isn't a great sign.

I've always said the worst thing you can do is pay full price for 2nd level players. You pay full price or over pay for great players guys who make big impacts. But paying top of the market price for a guy like Tee Higgins for example is always a mistake. There contract never seems to translate to impact on the field.

Better to pay for 2nd tier players with some kind of defect for the discount or okay starters. You will tend to get more value by limiting the amount of contracts you give to 2nd tier players.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Meyers has had a single 1K season (just barely). His YPR and YPT are not particularly high and he is not an end zone threat. Meyers is a solid #2 WR on a good team. He got a fairly massive amount of targets last year when he got 1027 yards and his best year ever cause Bowers opened things up for him and they had no one else to really throw to besides these two. I also wonder how many of these yards were made when the game was out of hand. How much does that production mean if you finish 29/32 offenses? How much of that production was not earned against prevent D?

I'm not going to look at the play by play... but here is what i saw on a quick glimpse. Meyers had 3 100 yard games that year... in all 3 they were down 2 scores or more much of the 4th quarter... Not sure if he got many yards late in those games but it isn't a great sign.

I've always said the worst thing you can do is pay full price for 2nd level players. You pay full price or over pay for great players guys who make big impacts. But paying top of the market price for a guy like Tee Higgins for example is always a mistake. There contract never seems to translate to impact on the field.

Better to pay for 2nd tier players with some kind of defect for the discount or okay starters. You will tend to get more value by limiting the amount of contracts you give to 2nd tier players.

Agreed but…I think we just did that with Milton Williams, Landry, and obviously already did with Dugger.

 

[Steve102]

Throwing the ball instead of running it.

Malcom GO!

I know what you're referring to. It's asinine to think that Pete Carroll won't deal with the Pats because he lost a Super bowl 10 flippin' years ago.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Raiders lost their 3rd safety to a broken leg at the beginning of camp, he’ll be out at least the first month. Meyers for Dugger?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Meyers has had a single 1K season (just barely). His YPR and YPT are not particularly high and he is not an end zone threat. Meyers is a solid #2 WR on a good team. He got a fairly massive amount of targets last year when he got 1027 yards and his best year ever cause Bowers opened things up for him and they had no one else to really throw to besides these two. I also wonder how many of these yards were made when the game was out of hand. How much does that production mean if you finish 29/32 offenses? How much of that production was not earned against prevent D?

I'm not going to look at the play by play... but here is what i saw on a quick glimpse. Meyers had 3 100 yard games that year... in all 3 they were down 2 scores or more much of the 4th quarter... Not sure if he got many yards late in those games but it isn't a great sign.

I've always said the worst thing you can do is pay full price for 2nd level players. You pay full price or over pay for great players guys who make big impacts. But paying top of the market price for a guy like Tee Higgins for example is always a mistake. There contract never seems to translate to impact on the field.

Better to pay for 2nd tier players with some kind of defect for the discount or okay starters. You will tend to get more value by limiting the amount of contracts you give to 2nd tier players.

Hes due $11m in cash this year.

That is nothing.

 

[JoeSixPat]

If this is how he is thinking, I think we see why him and the Raiders aren't on the same page.

The Raiders aren't one 28 year old WR2 away from making things happen, especially not one thinking he should get $60M for two years.

Yeah - you've got to be a solid and consistent 1,000 yard plus guy for that and he's only done that for one season

I think he CAN be that player and would love to have him back, but we'll have to see who is on the market at WR next year, including him.

 

[BobDigital]

Hes due $11m in cash this year.

That is nothing.

This isn't isn't the issue, we are talking about next year and what he might want. Right now he is being paid appropriately, maybe even a bit of a deal.

 

[Zuma]

Trade Bourne and a 6th for Meyers

Edit: or not?

 

[RobertWeathers]

This isn't isn't the issue, we are talking about next year and what he might want. Right now he is being paid appropriately, maybe even a bit of a deal.

Your post was not clear on that point. At any rate next year is next year.

 

[Pape]

Our Jacobi has gone and grown up and become an elite receiver, in his and his representation's opinion, at least.

we shoulda kept him

 

[TommyD4207]

Worth a reunion?

By the time he runs to his new destination it will be 2028.

 

[TommyD4207]

If Meyers wants $30MM a year he has a very hard lesson coming.

That said, it isn’t clear if he asked for more $ or the Raiders asked him to take LESS.

I’d take him at his current salary if they took Bourne, Polk, or A 6th.

Anyone paying Jakobi ****ing Meyers and his slow ass 30 million AAV is actually insane and should be fired on the spot.

 

[Ring 6]

Raiders are not doing a deal with the Patriots for a few reasons.

1. The conference
2. The optics of Brady dealing with New England.
3. The McDaniels thing.
4. Pete Carrol was embarrassed with the biggest coaching blunder on the biggest stage.

None of those things would prevent a team from making a trade they feel good about.
Coaches don’t go around hating the team they lose to and limiting their options by not dealing with them. This isn’t kindergarten.

 

[jlu52]

we shoulda kept him

Bill let him go for chump change, and JuJu got paid to rehabilitate. Jacobi is a very good receiver, not elite, but the man catches the ball
when it's thrown to him. I assume his when to lateral to teammates skills have improved greatly.

 

[Ring 6]

We have an opportunity to get a 1000yrd receiver who knows the offense, under 30, is at a reasonable salary that we know with plenty of cap space.

Our WR1 is coming off an ACL and are WR2-5 have not produced at a high-level. We have depth in bodies but not in talent.

Our TEs are old and thin.

As long as they are not asking for 1st or 2nd rounders, this is a no brainer.

And we’d have cap space to use.

The thing we don’t know is how the coaching staff feels and pop and/or Boutte breaking out and whether Williams is ready to contribute.
But surely better than Hollins.

 

[Kdo5]

At this point of us he might be more of a progress stopper than anything else. Mainly posting this to once again take a victory lap about my claim that Juju was not an upgrade.

Progress stopper? He’s better than any of our receivers. Legit #2 NFL receiver. I would welcome him back with open arms it’s just they’d probably ask too much for him.

 

[TommyD4207]

Progress stopper? He’s better than any of our receivers (Diggs tbd). Legit #2 NFL receiver. He’d just be too much money at this point.

He had 75% of his production last year in 3 games.

This is like saying Deitrich Wise is a solid pass rusher because of his 8 sack season, when 4 came in one game.

 

[Joey007]

I can’t believe I’m about to say this……. While we don’t have elite talent at the top, WR might be one of the “deepest” spots on the roster, in terms of WR #6 actually being NFL roster quality (which isn’t the case at a few other positions).

While I wouldn’t say no to a reunion as I’m sure he could help out, I’d rather they focus on filling out the roster at places where the depth isn’t NFL roster quality at this point (IOL, RB4, FB, TE3, LB).

After thinking it through, I agree.

Williams and Chism both need their upside seen through. Same goes with Boutte to an extent.

We’ve invested into Diggs/Hollins as veterans and have a gadgety experienced receiver in Douglas.

Meyers is in that weird spot where he’s not a viable #1, but a damn good 2. I’d say we have plenty of that potential on the roster. I think the only thing worth targeting at receiver is a bona fide star #1.

I’m more a no for now, maybe he’s worth revisiting next offseason if he doesn’t get a new deal.